I went by I in middle school, but other people called me by my longer name. I used to think other people were talking to me when they said I, but they were just talking about themselves and naming themselves I too, probably after me, which is my other name.
Noble DustFebruary 10, 2022 at 20:55#6534060 likes
It'd be cool if babies were born with language ability and gradually had to figure out pronoun use on their own.
You could raise a baby and not teach it pronouns and then cast it out into the world and see how it fared. You could then write a journal article about the consequences of pronoun deprivation. I would do that, but I'm all babied out.
It'd be cool if babies were born with language ability and gradually had to figure out pronoun use on their own.
Actually, that is what happens. Babies do figure things out by themselves, that is how they learn to communicate. It also works for multi language homes, the kids figure out who to speak each language to.
You could raise a baby and not teach it pronouns and then cast it out into the world and see how it fared. You could then write a journal article about the consequences of pronoun deprivation. I would do that, but I'm all babied out.
How would the kid actually learn a language then? You would have to speak without any pronouns so that he could figure out how to do it.
Noble DustFebruary 11, 2022 at 02:35#6534610 likes
"Holy fuck that hurt! I'm scared as shit, what the hell is this place??! It was so warm and safe back in there, how the hell do I get back in??? I'm crying dammit, this is so embarrassing!"
"Jimmy, just so you know, everyone in the world goes by both 'I' and 'Me'."
"Without that, you would not be in this situation."
Noble DustFebruary 11, 2022 at 15:50#6535520 likes
Ok, you dreamers. Is lucid dreaming something that can happen spontaneously? (Is it even a real thing?) I had a dream last night where I was flying over this stunningly beautiful cityscape, almost a sort of cyber punk situation. The level of detail was insane, it felt very real, and I was in control of my flying ability. I gradually lost it though, and ended up almost in space. Pretty cold up there.
Reply to Noble Dust It's real and can happen spontaneously. I've had a few dreams in which I became aware I was dreaming and could consciously decide what happened next to some degree, though I recall being surprised--within the dream--that I didn't have as much control as I expected.
For me I reckon it's mostly when I'm on the verge of waking up. I don't know if that makes it less of a lucid dream or not.
So, were you aware that you were dreaming? I think that's the key.
Noble DustFebruary 11, 2022 at 16:42#6535640 likes
Sort of; I've been reading about people's "Out of Body Experiences" and I thought I was having one of those, so that might have colored my "in dream" perception. :chin:
There is a soft emerging light, no sudden bright glare. It's a long way off but shows the direction. That's the best I can offer from experience.
Thank you for your help :flower:
That light feels like it's burning my soul into ashes. :fire:
I just don't have it in me to endure anymore.
Jack CumminsFebruary 11, 2022 at 19:29#6536170 likes
Reply to Noble Dust
There may be various forms of lucid dreams, such as the hypopompic and hypnagogic ones. I have had one strange thing recently though. Since last autumn I have inflammation behind my right eye. It gives distortion if I shut the left one. However, what happens if I close my eyes is that not all of the time but frequently I see all kinds of visions mainly in the right one, in the including faces, scenery and all kinds of geometric shapes and symbols etc. Sometimes I can lie in bed watching it for long periods which is lucid dreaming. I am thinking that I would like to do drawings or paintings based on it and I am starting to think of my left eye as my outer eye and the right as the inner one.
Or perhaps your dreams are your only lucid moments.
Or perhaps we should evaluate lucidity based on the Relative Lucidity (RL) where RL is the ratio of Dream Lucidity (DL) to Awake Lucidity (AL). RL= DL/AL.
If we do that, then I will score very high.
Noble DustFebruary 11, 2022 at 20:51#6536410 likes
That’s fascinating. I wonder how the visions are being triggered, what the mechanics are. Is there any rhyme or reason to them, or anything you would potentially attribute to your subconscious, etc?
I sometimes see faces/creatures and hear voices as I’m falling asleep. Sometimes the face will make eye contact with me and the voice will be so real it will jerk me back to wakefulness. Can you be on the schizophrenic spectrum but only in the hypnogogic state? :groan: I don’t know what to make of it.
Jack CumminsFebruary 11, 2022 at 21:08#6536450 likes
Reply to Noble Dust
I have done some research on eyes and one of the mechanisms which is meant to be important is the phosphenes in the eyes. I have a friend who has multiple sclerosis mildly and apparently in that condition the phosphenes play a role. He does have some visionary experiences too. I am deleting the rest of the post which I have written here because it is too much of a philosophy discussion and is likely to get in the way of general discussion. But, I am starting a thread on lucid dreaming because it is probably an important area in psychology/philosophy.
Noble DustFebruary 11, 2022 at 21:58#6536560 likes
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 11, 2022 at 22:04#6536570 likes
Don't forget the song "Silent Lucidity"
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 11, 2022 at 22:12#6536600 likes
Is anyone here interested in golf? There is a party at the Birds Nest and the after hours Coop where my edlest indian is doing the visuals for Macklemore as the headline of the groups.
My favorite oldest son bought me a ticket for the party but I am single and this party is comprised of the upper esculin of Scottsdale and I would really feel better not going alone.
Noble DustFebruary 11, 2022 at 22:12#6536610 likes
"Holy fuck that hurt! I'm scared as shit, what the hell is this place??! It was so warm and safe back in there, how the hell do I get back in??? I'm crying dammit, this is so embarrassing!"
"Jimmy, just so you know, everyone in the world goes by both 'I' and 'Me'."
"What the fuck???"
Let's try this without pronouns and see what happens.
"Holy fuck hurt! 'm scared as shit, the hell is place??! was so warm and safe back in there, how the hell do get back in??? m crying dammit, is so embarrassing!"
"Jimmy, just so know, in the world goes by both and "
"What the fuck???"
The only thing that could make all of that become sensible language is the correct use of pronouns. Language users could possibly come up with their own words if non were supplied by their teacher/parents, but how would those people be able to communicate correct the ideas and concepts of every day life without using any pronouns?
The idea that there is such a thing as neutral/ non gender pronouns is horseshit and just as discriminatory as the pronouns that we all learned a kids.
Imagine seeing a person on the street with a big gun, and you only know how to speak gender neutral speak.
"They have a gun!!"
"Who?"
"Them over there", point towards the other side of the street where a hundred people are walking around.
"Which one?"
"They in the brown coat" Brown coats happen to be in fashion right now.
"Which one?"
"The one with the gun!!"
But i am still interested in am explanation of how the fuck a new born would have the capacity to put its feelings into words.
Noble DustFebruary 11, 2022 at 23:40#6536770 likes
I’d offer to escort you but I don’t golf, could not impress the upper esculin of skid row with my lackluster social grace, and live some five hundred miles away. Hope you have a good time though. :flower:
Just for the record, esculin is "...a glucoside C15H16O9 from the inner bark of the horse chestnut (Aesculus hippocastaneum) and roots of the yellow jessamine (Gelsemium sempervirens) that absorbs ultraviolet rays..."
I think maybe the word you are looking for is "echelon," which is "...a level in an organization : a level of authority or responsibility..."
Reply to T Clark Never mind what "esculin" actually is. I bet he aimed for 'echelon' and missed by a letter or two and the ever intrusive spell-checker decided on behalf of Praxis what the word ought to be. Spellcheck has no interest in context.
I read that this is how spell-check is built:
Companies like Google, who have remarkably intimate familiarity with what we type, "scrape" off our efforts to correct misspellings multiplied by billions. Eventually the program comes to understand that we always correct "hte" to "the". Ditto for zillions of other instances. Contrary to the obvious approach, Spellcheck does not read what we write and word-by-word consult a dictionary. How would a dictionary help it know that "esculin" should actually be echelon? After enough people have aimed for echelon, but typed esculin or echsculen, or something else, and corrected it enough times to ECHELON, will Spellcheck fix it properly.
Companies like Google are busy "scraping" all kinds of information from what we post on line, text, photos, drawings, music, porn, etc. Eventually, Amazon and Apple--listening to us through their always on "assistant" apps--will be able to tell what kind of sex we are having \ because it will have scraped so much information from porn. It will know from listening in that we are in position #19, and will not interrupt us with a telephone call until the screaming stops. Furthermore, central processors will experience a shiver of delight or disgust, depending on whether it is a gay or straight CPU.
I love words. "Echelon" is a really good one. It feels good to say - that "ech" feels a bit German. It sounds important. It's a bit technical so it makes you sound like you know something, even if you don't. I'm just defending it against the entropy of improper usage.
I'm sure someday it will go the way of "gantlet," a military punishment which has evolved into "gauntlet," which is, or once was, just a glove.
Noble DustFebruary 12, 2022 at 04:08#6537600 likes
Reply to T Clark I love words too. Wordlove is one of the reasons I dislike Spellcheck. Spellcheck is a robot system, totally insensitive to context.
I wasn't up on Gantlet vs. Gauntlet. Since you like the German sound of 'ECHelon, you will adore the German word for Gauntlet: I have thrown down the panzerhandschuh.
Never mind what "esculin" actually is. I bet he aimed for 'echelon' and missed by a letter or two and the ever intrusive spell-checker decided on behalf of Praxis what the word ought to be. Spellcheck has no interest in context.
I actually copied and pasted “upper esculin” from Tiff’s post, because I’m such a poor speller and wasn’t confident in its spelling. Noticed the spell checkers disapproval with the red dots under the word but I liked how esculin sounded, oddly enough, so left it.
Sorry bout the entropy, Clark.
Noble DustFebruary 12, 2022 at 04:54#6537760 likes
Literally, that means tank hand shoe, which is similar to my favorite German word fausthandschuh, which, again literally means fist hand shoe. It actually means....try to guess before you look.
Reply to T Clark Your mother probably recited the nursery rhyme to you about the three little kittens who had lost their Fausthandschuh.
Three little kittens, they lost their mittens
And they began to cry
"Oh, mother dear, we sadly fear
We've lost our mittens by"
"What! Lost your mittens? you naughty kittens
Then you shall have no pie"
"Meow, meow, meow, my"
The story goes on, but you can look it up to discover how it all turned out.
[i]Panzer[/I] is a German word that means "armour". It derives through the French word pancier, "breastplate", from Latin pantex, "belly". ... The dated German term is Panzerkampfwagen, "tank" or "armoured combat vehicle". The modern commonly used synonym is Kampfpanzer, or "battle panzer".
Gauntlet also means 'armor' or metal--wrist protection. When a knight threw down the gauntlet, what he did was take off the metal wrist band above the glove and throw it on the ground. If he was in a hurry, maybe he whipped off a glove and threw the whole thing on the ground--glove, gauntlet, and all. The challenged knight picked up the gauntlet (or maybe not), signaling acceptance of the challenge and the fight was on. One knight or the other would end up skewered, perhaps.
Panzer is a German word that means "armour". It derives through the French word pancier, "breastplate", from Latin pantex, "belly". ... The dated German term is Panzerkampfwagen, "tank" or "armoured combat vehicle". The modern commonly used synonym is Kampfpanzer, or "battle panzer".
I should have thought that the proper verbatim translation of original expression of the English word Tank for armoured vehicle in German is
Grabenschutzpanzerkraftwagen.
Graben has nothing to do with grabbing; it means to make a dent, a hole, a push-in.
So Grabenschutzpanzerkraftwagen (and not kampfwagen) means "poking shooting armour-plated strong vehicle". Or "Dent-or-penetration producing bullet- shooter armour-plated strong vehicle".
Legend has it that the Germans lost WWI because when the German tanks were coming, the English sentries cried, "tanks coming!" and the anti-tank weapons could be readied. While when the English tanks were coming, the German soldier on the lookout snapped into attention and shrieked, "Englische Grabenschutzpanzerkraftwagen kommen sofort jetzt schon!!" And by the time he reached the end of the sentence, the English tanks were on their necks.
After a break I did back in September, I am ready to be here again with you!
I'm glad you're back. I have felt like I needed to get away from the forum from time to time. Problem is, when I take a break, people miss me so much they beg me to come back. Can't disappoint my peeps.
I’d offer to escort you but I don’t golf, could not impress the upper esculin of skid row with my lackluster social grace, and live some five hundred miles away. Hope you have a good time though. :flower:
You are really something special praxis! Thank you for the offer to escort me. I have zero interest in golf myself but the party at The Birds Nest was 10k strong last night! Finally! We are able to have maskless concerts! Macklemore got a bit emotional talking about how many concerts were cancelled, how he was usually on tour half of the year. So, he said that he in no way was taking the concert we were at for granted. Such a beautiful environment! Such sexy people are drawn out to this event.
Where are earth on you located? 500 miles is a stretch for a last-minute escort, but it does offer up to where we might as a group all meet up. Vegas? Minnesota?
Ohhh hey..... @Hanover got a rockin ranch now! Maybe Atlanta?
Since my son was running the visuals, I got the best view in the house being up in a gated area where the rest of the lazer folks, mixing boards, the folks recording the concert.
It was amazing!
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 12, 2022 at 17:07#6539560 likes
Is it wrong to have an escort to such an event?
A good friend here suggested that an escort is fine but it takes the guts out of it.
That made me feel weak.
Is it right? Is it wrong? And how as a single woman can I attend such an event, safely, on my own?
Well, my youngest is in Austin and I did live stream it for him for a few minutes, so we were all together in some way because it felt odd going to an event like his brothers without him. My eldest was working the event so once I got to him, I was good. His fiance and I wound up driving up together and there was more than one time in which I was grateful for her being with me.
I have no fear walking in downtown Chicago during the day by myself. I know what to do if I am mugged and I have had to use one method when I was leaving the grocery store and I could feel someone pacing me. I am always aware of my surroundings and make pacts on the train and plane with the people I am seated with and across the aisle, in the event of any riff raff that could start within a moving tube. Yes, I am that proactive person.
When I felt the dude pacing me in the parking lot, I made sure that I took my hands off the cart, stopped short and flipped around and asked VERY loudly, what time is it?? Adrenaline was HIGH and the guy stopped in his tracks and was like Sue.... it's me Jeff.... :rage:
A whole lot of profanity and me shoving his shoulder every time he came in for a hug to calm me down.
I said you bastard! You scared the shit out of me! He said scared the shit out of you? I said YES and he said YOU scared the shit out of me when you asked me what time it was!
It was a lesson I would like to have just kept in my pocket, but it worked, it freakin WORKED!
BTW Just typing this out has brought back an adrenaline rush :angry:
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 12, 2022 at 17:48#6539730 likes
Now on the shuttle back after the show I was alone and VERY likely the only sober person on the bus.
Someone told me before going that "Who knows you might meet a sugar daddy there?" :angry:
Let me make one thing clear, MONEY doesn't impress me. Full stop.
I am first to board so I go the middle of the shuttle and sit against the window, thinking it would be a full shuttle. If there was a "sugar daddy" that wanted to meet me, he failed miserably but recovered it at the sober thought he finally found. This very white, very bald man probably in his early 50's danced his way down the aisle after asking the driver to turn on Shakira, to which she obliged. He gets to where I am, and he is with a group of drunk folks clearly enjoying themselves and Jameson and Absolute who were sponsoring the show. He starts trying to dance like Shakira and then steps up on my seat and the one across the aisle and continues to get his groove on. I am looking at the driver watching this in the rear-view mirror, and I looked at him and I said dude be careful you don't get tossed off the shuttle. He steps down but keeps dancing and asks me to dance Shakira with him. To which I said you are doing a fine job. Finally, he settled down and his female friend was next to him on the window seat, and he starts the real talk. Like did you like the concert, who was going to wake up with a sunburn and to what alcohol.
Then he went up to the driver and told her to make sure she got me to my car safely, stumbled back and said she is going to take care of you. As he and the highly intoxicated group departed the shuttle, he said be careful getting to your car. I returned with be careful you aren't too drunk to drive. Flashed a smile and that was it.
Can you guess what the turn off was even as he got in his Maserati in the gravel parking lot?
And how as a single woman can I attend such an event, safely, on my own?
I used to have someone to go to concerts. These days, I would want to, but either too busy (I was a workaholic) or no one to go with. Get someone -- if you need to hire a person, do it.
Let me make one thing clear, MONEY doesn't impress me. Full stop.
That's really bad for me. All I got is money. Nothing else. Just money, money, money, and nothing.
I am sorry I can't impress you with my dollars. Both of them.
At one point I had had three dollars, but met a woman who was a gold-digger. As soon as she got the dollar out of me, zinggg!!! she was gone like a rocketya with an escape velocity.
god must be atheistFebruary 13, 2022 at 09:30#6541780 likes
Can you guess what the turn off was even as he got in his Maserati in the gravel parking lot?
1. The Maserati. You expected a Lamborghini.
2. He was 4'5".
3.
4. He misspelled "you're" for "your" as he spake to you.
5. He asked others to take care of you, and tried to take credit for it. In my language we call asking a third party to do a favour to a second party without any involvement by the principal "he thrashes poison ivy with someone else's dick." I come from a country with very colorful language.
6.
7. He did precisely the same thing to every other woman as to you on the bus.
7.
7.
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8. His wife was brandishing a sharp scimitar held in the grip of her teeth.
9.
10. He was your parish priest.
11. He was an inflatable doll with a remote-controlled speaking mechanism hidden in his stomach.
12. He was the ghost of the illegitimate child of Richard Wagner and Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanoff.
13. He smelled of Opera.
14. At one point he looked deeply in your eye, and you saw his soul. His soul was frail as every human's, full of ego, insecurities, and money.
15.
16. Something spiritually indescribable happened that told you to not engage him.
Reading your story @ArguingWAristotleTiff and the suggestion you might think of hiring someone to
go with you made me wonder whether the current cultural arrangement is optimal. Men are expected to take the initiative when courting women. I am very well aware that such mores were dictated by men but would it not be a good time to turn the tables?
Men are, if only by their physical size, a threat to women in such a situation whereas the opposite is less likely (though not absent of course). Would it not make more sense to leave the initiative to the party for whom such approaches might be more threatening? Of course I am aware that cultural change is not something you can foist on society but there are examples where I have seen women being more assertive when it comes to this sexual game, Mexico and to a lesser extent Turkey. What do you think, good idea or not? What would be won, what would be lost?
No it was like a new theme, kind of grayish or light blue header bar instead of purple, slight gradient effect and the links were "3d"-ish buttons. It looked good actually, kind of like IPB.
Men are expected to take the initiative when courting women. I am very well aware that such mores were dictated by men but would it not be a good time to turn the tables?
I thought the custom was that women were supposed to make men think the man took the initiative.
Get someone -- if you need to hire a person, do it.
Not a bad idea. Just pick up a day laborer, have him do some work around the house, then dinner and a concert. Sort of like a husband, but without other obligations.
No it was like a new theme, kind of grayish or light blue header bar instead of purple, slight gradient effect and the links were "3d"-ish buttons. It looked good actually, kind of like IPB.
Indeed, that's the upper mescalin theme. You'll need special permissions to access or you can just bribe me by PM. Cheers.
I thought the custom was that women were supposed to make men think the man took the initiative.
Those are wise words, yes. True enough. However would it not be helpful if we would just cut out this illusion creation? It would make things so much clearer without all kinds of illusions...
Can you guess what the turn-off was even as he got in his Maserati in the gravel parking lot?
My second thought is that he reminds you of an old flame, but that's another story...
Back in the spring of life and deep in the dusty heart of Texas two kids rode a candy apple red Schwinn stingray down the highway with Born to Be Wild blaring from ghetto blaster that Tiff held in one arm while desperately clinging to Jimmy with her other arm from the back of the banana seat.
"Don't do it, Jimmy!" Tiff pleaded.
Stung-out on Pepsi and Pop Rocks, Jimmy was peddling as fast as he could towards the train crossing, determined to cross the track just before the oncoming train. It was going to be close, very close.
"HOLD ON TIFF!"
They crossed while the boombox bellowed “Fire all of your guns at once and explode into space.” Tiff could feel the air vibrate from the steal colossus as it brushed them. Jimmy lost control and they skidded out, kicking up a cloud of dust that enveloped them.
After the dust settled Tiff screamed at Jimmy, "What is wrong with you?!"
"It's like the man says, Tiff, like a true nature's child, we were born to be wild."
"No, you were born to be wild. And how did you get so burned-out at nine?"
"Bye, Jimmy, it's over." Tiff resigned as she turned and left Jimmy standing in the gravel.
No it was like a new theme, kind of grayish or light blue header bar instead of purple, slight gradient effect and the links were "3d"-ish buttons. It looked good actually, kind of like IPB.
Perhaps it was the ghost of philosophy forums past.
According to Wikipedia it's called a Briard. It's also known as a Berger de Brie, which means a ground beef sandwich with soft cheese in French. So, Fred is a cheeseburger.
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 13, 2022 at 23:34#6544110 likes
What do you think, good idea or not? What would be won, what would be lost?
I think I am not comfortable investing a whole lot of time in the Shakira kind of guy.
What would be won? Time investing in something I already know is a no go.
What would be lost? Time
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 13, 2022 at 23:35#6544120 likes
My second thought is that he reminds you of an old flame, but that's another story...
Back in the spring of life and deep in the dusty heart of Texas two kids rode a candy apple red Schwinn stingray down the highway with Born to Be Wild blaring from ghetto blaster that Tiff held in one arm while desperately clinging to Jimmy with her other arm from the back of the banana seat.
"Don't do it, Jimmy!" Tiff pleaded.
Stung-out on Pepsi and Pop Rocks, Jimmy was peddling as fast as he could towards the train crossing, determined to cross the track just before the oncoming train. It was going to be close, very close.
"HOLD ON TIFF!"
They crossed while the boombox bellowed “Fire all of your guns at once and explode into space.” Tiff could feel the air vibrate from the steal colossus as it brushed them. Jimmy lost control and they skidded out, kicking up a cloud of dust that enveloped them.
After the dust settled Tiff screamed at Jimmy, "What is wrong with you?!"
"It's like the man says, Tiff, like a true nature's child, we were born to be wild."
"No, you were born to be wild. And how did you get so burned-out at nine?"
"Bye, Jimmy, it's over." Tiff resigned as she turned and left Jimmy standing in the gravel.
Oh my if only!!!! :cheer: I love trains and so the setting was perfect.
But no....
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 13, 2022 at 23:37#6544140 likes
1. The Maserati. You expected a Lamborghini.
2. He was 4'5".
3.
4. He misspelled "you're" for "your" as he spake to you.
5. He asked others to take care of you, and tried to take credit for it. In my language we call asking a third party to do a favour to a second party without any involvement by the principal "he thrashes poison ivy with someone else's dick." I come from a country with very colorful language.
6.
7. He did precisely the same thing to every other woman as to you on the bus.
8. His wife was brandishing a sharp scimitar held in the grip of her teeth.
9.
10. He was your parish priest.
11. He was an inflatable doll with a remote-controlled speaking mechanism hidden in his stomach.
12. He was the ghost of the illegitimate child of Richard Wagner and Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanoff.
13. He smelled of Opera.
14. At one point he looked deeply in your eye, and you saw his soul. His soul was frail as every human's, full of ego, insecurities, and money.
15. Something spiritually indescribable happened that told you to not engage him.
Ahhh no, that was not meant for now in this situation, just a general observation of male and female behaviour. The Shakira guy is a no go for so many reasons. The most obvious reason is that a drunk older, balding guy dancing Shakira and speaking with a double tongue as we say in Dutch is highly unattractive I reckon. Just know that there are nice guys too who do not dance to music in a buss drunk when trying to strike up a conversation.
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 13, 2022 at 23:41#6544170 likes
Okay the total turn off for me was that "Biff" and his flock of drunk friends were wearing wristbands that let them into the VIP area, where it was open bar. They are not cheap tickets if you can get them and if you "know" someone, they are usually a name that is known within the Valley.
In other words, they knew better than to be behaving like they were. I doubt they were local based upon how they were speaking Spanglish to the driver.
But....it's literally money and the idea that it has a positive effect on people, especially when you can get public credit for it. It is just a total turn off. And as someone who cannot drink? The whole drinking till we are shitfaced is not my gig either.
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 13, 2022 at 23:43#6544190 likes
think I am not comfortable investing a whole lot of time in the Shakira kind of guy.
What would be won? Time investing in something I already know is a no go.
What would be lost? Time
He's the "get back in the saddle" guy, where you remind yourself how it's done, make all the mistakes with, and shake off the cobwebs with. You don't want to make the mistakes with the guy you mean to keep.
I think about the first couple out of the gate just after my divorce, and I'd feel bad and maybe embarrassed if I still knew who they were. You've got to live it to learn it. That's what I think at least, but crazy as it seems, some aren't like me.
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 13, 2022 at 23:47#6544210 likes
He's the "get back in the saddle" guy, where you remind yourself how it's done, make all the mistakes with, and shake off the cobwebs with. You don't want to make the mistakes with the guy you mean to keep.
Seriously? I had a fantastic time in Chicago and there are no cobwebs.
Just long-distance longing for...which cannot happen for years...
A dance with Shakira is not my style......
However would it not be helpful if we would just cut out this illusion creation? It would make things so much clearer without all kinds of illusions...
If only. We all know the goal of the dance, and it would simplify things if we could eliminate the dance, close the dance hall, and have a sober conversation under the bright sunshine, but that's not how it works. You've got to do the dance and pretend it's about dancing.
L'éléphantFebruary 14, 2022 at 00:59#6544380 likes
Reply to L'éléphant Flight-capable chickens must have trained for the pea-brained olympics. Most of the birds one sees in barnyards are too heavy to fly very well. The ones in barns are way too weak. Guineafowl, hens and roosters, can fly. but they are related to pheasants, and are a domesticated bird. Wild turkeys, which are pretty big birds, can fly well enough to get into trees to roost at night. The big dumb white meat turkeys just waddle around in the barn yard.
I've thought of raising some backyard chickens, but it's a lot of trouble in the city. (Permit, approval of ones immediate neighbors, decent shelter for their protection from predation, etc.)
Most furniture advertisements feature a golden retriever, beagle, or some other dog to accessorize and warm up a scene. This company took a furless approach. Not sure which demographic they are aiming at--deadheads?
L'éléphantFebruary 14, 2022 at 01:15#6544440 likes
I've thought of raising some backyard chickens, but it's a lot of trouble in the city. (Permit, approval of ones immediate neighbors, decent shelter for their protection from predation, etc.)
You should move to chicken friendly neighborhood. You should take advantage of the situation with covid.
I've thought of raising some backyard chickens, but it's a lot of trouble in the city. (Permit, approval of ones immediate neighbors, decent shelter for their protection from predation, etc.)
I have 5 chickens. I get 5 eggs a day in the Summer, 3 in the winter. It's easy work. Hens are legal throughout the county, but roosters need special zoning.
Reply to Hanover No roosters allowed here, either. Just another sign of discrimination against men. The family across the alley used to have some ducks.
Noble DustFebruary 14, 2022 at 05:45#6545360 likes
You'd be surprised how many people have chickens in NYC.
ChangelingFebruary 14, 2022 at 06:24#6545470 likes
The family across the alley used to have some ducks.
What do you do with ducks? Duck eggs can't be too interesting. While Peking Duck is a delicious dish, it requires hours of preparation for a very small portion of meat and so is not sustainable unless your duck farm is burgeoning. Keeping a few ducks feels akin to keeping a few chipmunks.
What do you do with ducks? Duck eggs can't be too interesting. While Peking Duck is a delicious dish, it requires hours of preparation for a very small portion of meat
One would think we hadn't had a whole conversation about my roast duck just a few weeks ago. Plenty of meat on a duck.
But, to be sure, the ducks I've known have been pets.
Noble DustFebruary 14, 2022 at 06:47#6545560 likes
Isn't "plenty" a relative term? I was commenting on the inanity of keeping "a few" ducks in the backyard. I remain uncertain what the point is. Don't get me wrong, I love duck, but I've had too many bad duck dishes to remain all rosey-eyed. One time my buddy made duck tacos and I literally had to spit out all of the fat...but politely, out of site at the party. Scarred for life.
Reply to Noble Dust I was once the joint custodian of a Californian fellow's black Indian runner duck. I called him (the duck) Daffy but it wasn't his or her real name. I believe he or she was there for the entertainment of his (the Californian fellow's) grandchildren.
Noble DustFebruary 14, 2022 at 06:59#6545590 likes
Reply to Noble Dust I was thinking of a sitcom. There was a Muscovy duck couple there as well, called Elvis and Priscilla, although Priscilla kept disappearing and being replaced while somehow maintaining her identity in the eyes of the humans.
Noble DustFebruary 14, 2022 at 07:03#6545610 likes
The grandchildren's perspective is one of clueless joy. The duck begrudges the grandchildren. And the fact that he's been nicknamed "Daffy". He hates the stereotype. Is ready to lash out. The "Californian Fellow" is a washed up porn star that dies mid-coital, and his body emits in a totally inappropriate description. Everyone loves it.
Reply to jamalrob There is no way in hell that all that nicely sliced meat came from one duck. It doesn't even look like duck meat (too light). Wasn't that picture from the New York Times? Somebody slipped up.
Reply to Noble Dust Why were the people across the alley keeping ducks? I imagine as pets for their children. Presumably low maintenance. I thought they made a pleasant soft quacky/squawkish sound. "Squawk seems oddly spelled; why the 'w'? It originated recently -- 19th century--imitative. Quäken in German.
Wait so your neighbors kept ducks as pets for their kids? I'm from the midwest too, but that's crazy. :rofl: And yes, ducks make quite a meditative, restorative sound, in fact. Lovely creatures, and I feel bad for eating the Chinese version of them.
Noble DustFebruary 14, 2022 at 07:17#6545730 likes
Perhaps in Russia, duck cooks you, or some questionable shit. Now that I think about it, I don't know if I want to know where we get our ducks from in NYC. It would make sense that you get better, less fucked up ducks in Russia.
Reply to Noble Dust Why is it crazy? I had a pair of chickens as pets. They had imprinted on each other, or they were homosexuals. They were ALWAYS together, usually no more than 2 feet apart. They ran free all over the neighborhood. Eventually we ate them.
Noble DustFebruary 14, 2022 at 07:20#6545780 likes
Maybe they knew they would be eaten and had a form of pre-trauma. I dunno, I'm trying to go smoke a cigarette and you two keep bogging me down. Back in a sec dammit
When wild geese flew overhead, migrating north and south, our geese would stop what they were doing and look up, puzzled or wistful (it was difficult to distinguish their facial expressions).
Reply to Noble Dust People who live in expensive homes around the lakes on the west side of Minneapolis hate Canadian geese. The gather in large flocks, eat grass, and leave wet green shit on the sidewalks. They aren't as aggressive as the male geese one sister had on her farm -- they were a vicious gang.
People won't let you smoke inside?
Noble DustFebruary 14, 2022 at 07:43#6545910 likes
Millennials man. Passive aggressive to the core. On the other hand, I don't enjoy smoking in doors because it reminds me how nasty cigarettes are. I'd much rather smoke outside and forget that I'm ruining my body.
Noble DustFebruary 14, 2022 at 07:56#6545970 likes
One would think we hadn't had a whole conversation about my roast duck just a few weeks ago. Plenty of meat on a duck.
Ohh that does look wonderful Jamalrob and so well presented. Presentation always gets me into trouble. Made a a Mexican goat ' birria' stew yesterday, tastes wonderful but does not do much in the looks department.
Reply to jamalrobReply to Noble Dust Watching geese and turkeys attack people is quite satisfying in a number of ways, Wild turkeys are actually quite capable of drawing blood; they are very good at killing snakes, for instance.
Ohh that does look wonderful Jamalrob and so well presented. Presentation always gets me into trouble. Made a a Mexican goat ' birria' stew yesterday, tastes wonderful but does not do much in the looks department.
Yeh it's quite important. A stew can look a mess, but appropriately confined and with a sprig of cilantro on the top, even it can please the eyes.
Pixel Blast ChamberFebruary 14, 2022 at 09:00#6546130 likes
So I created my first discussion, note said submitted for approval but then I found a message stating that I had to have twenty replies prior to creating a viewable thread.
Will my thread be held until I meet the twenty-reply requirement, has it been dumped or is that 20 req an old rule and I'm just waiting for mod approval?
The hypnogogic state can be an inspiration. Kaliopy shows her face and the Sirenes sing their song.
Morpheus keeps your body captive. It's a scary and weird state of phenomenological reduction.
Yeh it's quite important. A stew can look a mess, but appropriately confined and with a sprig of cilantro on the top, even it can please the eyes.
Indeed, I always have red onion, lemon wedges and cilantro or parsley ready. Even then it is not my strong suit. I will post a pic if I manage to make this bowl of birria look appealing...
It's embarrassing to have to hang around with rubes who don't know the difference between a Canada Goose and a Canadian goose. Many Canada Geese are also Canadian, but not all. There are also many Canadian geese that are not Canada Geese.
Nope, wrong again. They are apparently Egyptian. They look hieroglyphic because any goose called 'Egyptian' will set off associations which in a brain like mine will be completely muddled. I hope I'm not embarrassing you @T Clark
No. I have very strong associations with Canada Geese. We hunted when I was a kid and I remember putting decoys out at dawn and sitting for hours, freezing, in our blind with my father, brother, and friends. Drinking black coffee.
I have no emotional attachment to Egyptian Geese.
Noble DustFebruary 14, 2022 at 18:37#6548140 likes
Well certainly, but what about Mexican? With some pointers from Jamarlob...
I know I am not the greatest food porn director, but hey I tried...
Birria de Chivo with pilav rice and my own toasted scotch bonnet hot sauce and corn tortillas, unfortunatley not home made... I had a glass of Moroccan red wine to accompany the dish. Not a usual beverage, and not a usual wine country, but tasted great...
Hey wait a minute... I can post an image no? A picture I took? How does one do that?
@frank It is indeed rare, can be mighty serious though... Sometimes I even forget Canada exists, at other times there is nothing else on my mind but Ice hocky, moose meat and infinite cold plains. (I realize I know preciously little about Canada. Must be a good sign for Canada)
Sometimes I even forget Canada exists, at other times there is nothing else on my mind but Ice hocky, moose meat and infinite cold plains
Oh, there is so much more to Canada.
- Curling (an ice sport. More boring than baseball.)
- paintings of pine trees.
- toukes.
- people bundled up to the chin, hat, mask, and sunglasses and a Columbia coat with hood.
- mysterious hydroelectric power that we don't use, yet we pay for it (in Ontario).
- living in houses we could not afford to buy.
- very potent legalized marijuana stink all over the fucking place.
- all small business store fronts boarded up, except grocery stores, pharmacies and vape shops.
- ice, slush, or construction, in an infinite loop.
- city fathers drugged out on crack cocaine.
- the man in the plow truck: the salt of the street type of person
- land of the MS (Multiple Sclerosis)
- truckers for presidents -- they rule the country already. Make that Prime Ministers.
god must be atheistFebruary 15, 2022 at 15:57#6552650 likes
Reply to jorndoe Right. Airdrop of beer. "It's raining beer!" Of course... it's not two-to-the-left, one back and one to the front, but two to the left, one to the front and one back.
god must be atheistFebruary 15, 2022 at 15:59#6552670 likes
Reply to frank 99.7 percent of Canada's landmass is NOT covered with GPS navigation. It is covered, instead, with SNOW. Satellite Navigation Over Western (Hemisphere).
god must be atheistFebruary 15, 2022 at 16:06#6552730 likes
Reply to frank "Right in the land of the Ice and Snow with the midnight sun where the hot springs billow... " - Led Zep: Immigrant Song. Led Zeppelin originally had six members in the band, until the unfortunate mishap that their manager booked a tour in Canada. Kliff Krumbadger and Gerrard Grough was never seen again.
I've been pleased, and surprised, by the discussions about religion on the forum recently. Even more so by their quality. There have been many interesting and illuminating exchanges and little anti-religion carping.
I've been pleased, and surprised, by the discussions about religion on the forum recently. Even more so by their quality. There have been many interesting and illuminating exchanges and little anti-religion carping.
Honest to goodness, I came here just now to say I must be losing my mind, because I've followed some religious threads about the life, work, and legacy of Jesus on our forums (may I say "our forums"?) and not only did I enjoy it, and not find it stupid, but I agreed with a lot of things people have said. And I was amazed at the point of views and approaches to the topic.
Noble DustFebruary 15, 2022 at 23:43#6554410 likes
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 16, 2022 at 01:50#6554750 likes
Another question for those who are single or @Hanover what is the acceptable age range for men with older or younger women and vice versa? Like ten years older and 25 years younger? 20 older and 15 younger? :eyes:
Depends on levels of emotional maturity. Some men have a knack for it. Others need a baseball bat.
Oh my.
Forgive me but can you estimate it better as far as others would see me. I am 51 and so almost gone from a ruler who turned out to be a bad lover.
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff
then you will have to find out what pleases you. That is what will interest or turn people off.
Natural selection, if you will.
Another question for those who are single or Hanover what is the acceptable age range for men with older or younger women and vice versa? Like ten years older and 25 years younger? 20 older and 15 younger? :eyes:
I don't think age matters (assuming all are adults) for the emotional connection, but the problems arise from the life compatibility issues. That's what I found at least. You might not think 7 years matters if you're 55 and they're 48, but if your kids are in their 20s and off at college and theirs are mid teens in middle school, that's putting you back at little league fields and PTA meetings. Or, if you're 55 and they are mid 60s and looking to retire while you're not near there yet, that can be an issue.
I'm 55 and a 30 something I guess would make others envious, but the truth is I'd just be a tired old man having kids into my old age while trying to support a new family. Sounds miserable to me.
Or, ignore what I just said, watch The Graduate, and bang you a hot young stud.
god must be atheistFebruary 16, 2022 at 02:54#6554970 likes
Ah, well, then, we shalt dwell on the obvious from here on.
How is the weather over there, Jamalrob? And how 'bout them 'Mets, huh? (Big grinning smile, teeth showing, pat on the back, a bit louder and stronger than socially acceptable.)
god must be atheistFebruary 16, 2022 at 03:01#6555050 likes
Another question for those who are single or Hanover what is the acceptable age range for men with older or younger women and vice versa? Like ten years older and 25 years younger? 20 older and 15 younger? :eyes:
Been single for the first 60 years of my life. If I had to summarize relationships between singles, then the only or rather, the major criteria is this: (Pardon the strong wording)
"Everything is hanky-dory, as long as the fucking is good."
If you want to go beyond relationship, and make a major commitment, that's a totally different kettle of fish... be the kettle black, blue, or silver.
god must be atheistFebruary 16, 2022 at 03:03#6555070 likes
I tried to illuminate that two u-s are not the same as double-u-s whereas theoretically they are the same. (And I don't mind expounding on the obvious, since that has become the trend as of late. :-) )
I don’t see a pot or kettle. There’s just a trash icon reversed on a gray background, which I notice is the website favicon. I’m calling the trash white, I guess, and wonder what’s going on.
The toaster turns to the kitchen-aid and says, “You always ask for the usual.”
“It wouldn’t be usual if I didn’t ask for the usual,” said the kitchen-aid while looking over the toaster and then further commenting, “Oh, and by the way, your toast is black.”
the biggest remaining question is whether either of you have a pot that can talk.
[quote=Omar Khayyam]After a momentary silence spake
Some Vessel of a more ungainly Make;
"They sneer at me for leaning all awry:
What! did the Hand then of the Potter shake?"[/quote]
god must be atheistFebruary 16, 2022 at 19:42#6556900 likes
the biggest remaining question is whether either of you have a pot that can talk.
I haven't heard mine talk yet, but it can think in several different languages, and it communicates by telepathy. It's also been observed to have communicated information via osmosis. That's been done mainly with its plant buddies. Budding buddies.
Omar Khayyam:After a momentary silence spake
Some Vessel of a more ungainly Make;
"They sneer at me for leaning all awry:
What! did the Hand then of the Potter shake?"
Thank you for adding a little class to this stupid discussion.
There's something about those gross mushrooms out of a jar or can...when they end up on a pizza they're transformed into one the most delicious toppings.
Reply to L'éléphant Trouble is, when I searched the real estate database for chicken friendly neighborhoods, I came up with a chicken egg -- 0 chicken friendly neighborhoods. So I asked a cop where a good chicken friendly neighborhood was, and he accused me of preying on teenage boys, (He was thinking "chicken hawk'.) So, don't know where or how I'll find the happy chicken milieu.
Then there is bird flu to worry about--chickens on their backs in beds, coughing, fever, chills...poor things.
L'éléphantFebruary 17, 2022 at 04:59#6558020 likes
Reply to Bitter Crank
Don't ask a cop where a good chicken friendly neighborhood is. You're gonna get stupid answer.
Ask the city zoning.
'Wear a mask' notice was removed at the supermarket so I didn't mask. I never felt so naked except in that dream about giving a lecture in the.... oh, you know the one.
javi2541997February 17, 2022 at 09:58#6558460 likes
Yeah I had a similar experience the other day. I had a meeting with my parents without the masks and was a feeling of confidence/chilling that I was missing!
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 17, 2022 at 14:53#6558840 likes
There's something about those gross mushrooms out of a jar or can...when they end up on a pizza they're transformed into one the most delicious toppings.
Mushroom Tops Make Great Toppings Sang to the Tune of "Jingle Bells"
Mushroom tops make great toppings
Toppings make great trappings
Trappings trap the customer
That is their calling
Call the number, order pizza
Made just like a pizza:
Out of can ingredients
Including mushroom topsies
Musroom tops make great toppings
(and again, from the beginning)
Noble DustFebruary 18, 2022 at 08:07#6562550 likes
I love using chopsticks. I like to think I'm pretty good at it, but even so, using them slows me down, which is good because I eat at the pace of a rabid dog.
javi2541997February 18, 2022 at 19:50#6564580 likes
Reply to Shawn Are you suffering from species dysphoria? Have you been thinking of using CRISPR to become a transpecial? There are support groups for that. I think I'd be happy as the Big Bad Wolf. The Big Bad Wolf and the three little pigs, only I'd grab the first two before they got to their bourgeois brother's brick house, He would definitely be the most delicious one of all.
The bourgeois swine would be easy to coax out of his bricked up encampment with news of under-valued real estate (previously owned by his two brothers. I have the titles, but he doesn't need to know that). Once he came out, we Amalgamated Wolves would grab him and devour him on the spot, Brooks Brothrs suit and all. Slash, Snap, Chomp. Then we would turn his brick mansion into a club house for sex, drugs, and rock and roll.
love using chopsticks. I like to think I'm pretty good at it, but even so, using them slows me down, which is good because I eat at the pace of a rabid dog.
I eat all meals now only with a fondue fork. I will walk out of any restaurant in digust if they can't accommodate that simple request.
Noble DustFebruary 19, 2022 at 06:31#6566450 likes
How do you navigate fried rice? A shoveling motion similar to chopstick use? Just be careful not to stab yourself in the lip or tongue. Assuming you're wolfing the rice down in a rabid manner.
It seems absurd nowadays, but I was actually taught that this was the proper way to use a fork when eating peas, at least when we went to my grandmother’s for “tea”.
Now, of course, I pick up the plate and pour them directly into my stomach.
unenlightenedFebruary 19, 2022 at 11:11#6566760 likes
I eat my peas with honey;
I've done it all my life.
It makes the peas taste funny,
But it keeps them on the knife.
When we would have peas and carrots, my dad would tell his favorite dad joke and tell us to eat every carrot and pea (pee) on our plate.
We'd pick out the carrots, eat them quickly, then piss all about, laughing hysterically.
I can still remember grandma, tears of laughter streaming down her face, as she hopped up on the table, raised up her flowery dress, and squatted over her plate and let a full stream burst forth.
Ignoring the hyperboles for a moment, there are a few coinciding (us-versus-them) alignments, political, religious, media, ..., the usual.
The site is kind of influential, read both by regular/casual Christians and intellectuals, and the owner posts regular/frequent analyses (including how women should behave of all things), but does not allow much by way of disagreeing comments.
Is this really the face of the contemporary US, in part, just behind the front?
Is this really the face of the contemporary US, in part, just behind the front?
It appears to belong to the Christian / Liberty-obsessed sphere, a vaguely defined area of the right/far right political zone (this scholarly conclusion based on a quick glance).
For an interesting read, The Next Civil War: Dispatches from the American Future by Stephen Marche
Marche outlines 5 imagined scenarios leading to civil war (he doesn't suggest a repeat of 1860) and then provides documentary evidence of why the scenarios are not delusional. I'm about half way through, and it's depressing/distressing because the evidence is fairly persuasive.
How Civil Wars Start And How to Stop Them by Barbara F. Walter whose work is in international political affairs is also worth checking out. Here's a review of the two books in the New York Times.
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 19, 2022 at 21:47#6568310 likes
I'm giving into a slice or two at our Streets Of NY Pizza. They have a small bar and I talked through my meal and had to take it to go because the bartender/manager is my age and we just shot the shit for an hour and I took my meal to go.
She was talking about the Fire Fighters that come in...eh you say?
:smirk:
Anyone want anything?
unenlightenedFebruary 19, 2022 at 21:59#6568350 likes
I prefer the NY style pizza over the 40,000 calorie Chicago style sausage casserole.
It's a deep dish pizza not a casserole or a kind of lasagna and I had two pieces of it when I was in Chicago and that should hold me for 6 months or so.
The NY style is good and there were firefighters at a table, three couples and I was watching the dynamics and listening a bit and I thought I had a sailor's tongue. Oh, my I would have been ducking my eyes if I was one of the gals. Anyway....I didn't even find the firefighters attractive tonight.
We built a room within our ranch house for an extra bedroom during the beginning of the pandemic.
It took Nick and I 80 hrs to build it, complete with a barn door and it took him alone, 5 hours to remove it and it looks like it was never even there. Yes, compliments to the prepper which was me and heartbreak because I miss the kid that lived in there so very much.
I'm watching my family fall apart, or fracture apart, either way I feel like a failure as a mother, a wife and a friend. Fuckin aaaa
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff There isn't enough back ground in that comment for me to piece together enough to comment directly. In more general terms, however, I can at least say that I'm not sure there can be winning or failing at those things except in the extremity of cases where one has clearly taken drastic and overtly unethical action leading directly and unambiguously to the harm of those who depended on you. I somehow doubt one could find their way to this place if that were the case, however.
I have yet to meet, read or even hear about anyone, ever, who has attempted to understand the truth (not merely acceptable answers but the most correct possible ones) and still been that kind of ethical failure.
It's bias, sure, but at nearly 50 and with an average of 300 books per year since at least 1996 (and more articles and papers than anyone can count) that's a whole lot of evidence in the "not very damned likely" column.
god must be atheistFebruary 20, 2022 at 14:07#6569680 likes
I have yet to meet, read or even hear about anyone, ever, who has attempted to understand the truth (not merely acceptable answers but the most correct possible ones) and still been that kind of ethical failure.
Straight Wittgenstein! (This, a compliment.) "No human can guess the motivation for another human's action." The sole and living exceptions of this unproven claim are husbands and men in relationships, whom their female lovers expect to know what the lady wants, needs, desires without first communicating it to their men.
Arghhh...Tiff has put to us a perfect example of that. At least to me. I exhausted all possibilities in answering her inquiry, to the extent and limits of my imagination, yet she said, I was actually the farthest from the truth, and it should have been obvious to all and to me why she had or had not done whatever it was, I forgot the details of the story. The lesson was clear, though: she expected us to know, really know, what only she could have known. And the ensuing responses by us and by her showed that we did not know what she expected us to know.
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 20, 2022 at 18:38#6570180 likes
I somehow doubt one could find their way to this place if that were the case, however.
I have yet to meet, read or even hear about anyone, ever, who has attempted to understand the truth (not merely acceptable answers but the most correct possible ones) and still been that kind of ethical failure.
You are correct in that someone who was a failure at all of life would not find let alone, yet stay in a group of otherthinkers such as myself and maybe others here as well.
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 20, 2022 at 19:08#6570360 likes
Arghhh...Tiff has put to us a perfect example of that. At least to me. I exhausted all possibilities in answering her inquiry, to the extent and limits of my imagination, yet she said, I was actually the farthest from the truth, and it should have been obvious to all and to me why she had or had not done whatever it was, I forgot the details of the story. The lesson was clear, though: she expected us to know, really know, what only she could have known. And the ensuing responses by us and by her showed that we did not know what she expected us to know.
I don't know what to make of this. I know we were talking about what turned me off with the Shakira guy at the golf tournament on the shuttle back to our cars.
Maybe I was being more cut throat because what I was able to read him in addition to what his mouth was saying.
What was turning me off was the statement makers of "I can because I make bank."
Like wearing the wristbands that are for open bar only tickets, then saying they had already been sun burned on Friday on the greens (tickets for the package he and his flock had are expensive af IF you can buy them. Most are awarded to companies that are big in AZ, you are part of the Biff and Brittany club of society makers, those who are sponsoring the booze ect) dissing the driver in speaking Spanglish to her while telling me she doesn't speak English, but most of all was him climbing to stand on the seats of the shuttle, stratteliing the isle while to imitate Shakira.
Then the seal of the deal was when he got the feeling that he was being a jackass and his flock probably doesn't ever call him on anything, decided he could slide right into a conversation with me and I was already over his behavior that I wasn't going to respect him the way he was looking me to. Which was a result of that entitlement from beginning to end. We were roughly the same age and he knew better, I didn't tell him that but I did warn him when he was about to get tossed off. I'm not heartless :heart:
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 20, 2022 at 19:52#6570450 likes
It's all fun and games untill someone gets hurt in a beer shower.
If you read the article they are already saying it is not going to change next year by saying we want a racus crowd. :100:
Yes, yes they do. I have a good friend in a Chicago suburb that works for the city, 26 years now. Super person! :flower:
My dream job is to work for the parks department, to drive around in a golf cart wearing green pants, moving limbs off the trail, and directing people to the bathrooms.
I'd let the kids jump the fence and play on the locked fields. I've got my fill of being an authority figure already by being a mod here so they'll benefit from my old age chill.
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 20, 2022 at 21:53#6570780 likes
My dream job is to work for the parks department, to drive around in a golf cart wearing green pants, moving limbs off the trail, and directing people to the bathrooms.
I'd let the kids jump the fence and play on the locked fields. I've got my fill of being an authority figure already by being a mod here so they'll benefit from my old age chill.
Our Park Rangers wear green but so do the Crisis Volunteers with the Phoenix Fire department. The difference is park rangers are armed and Crisis Volunteers are not armed.
You know that is where my attraction lays, someone showing up at a situation I need help with, without a firearm.
I guess I appreciate back up in more than one area of life.
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 20, 2022 at 21:54#6570790 likes
I'd let the kids jump the fence and play on the locked fields. I've got my fill of being an authority figure already by being a mod here so they'll benefit from my old age chill.
Let me know when because I would like to participate in such racus behavior.
god must be atheistFebruary 21, 2022 at 08:41#6572360 likes
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Sorry, Tiff, I am apologizing because I did not want to put you on the spot. You're one of the nicest people on this board. I just wanted to illustrate that people can't guess other's motivation and yet some do expect it to happen. My shame.
I just wanted to illustrate that people can't guess other's motivation and yet some do expect it to happen.
'Sorry' to disagree. How many times is that word used to signify anything but an apology?
It's good when people can say what exactly they are apologising for. As you did.
All the better to evaluate the motivation.
Most people have an instinct, right or wrong, for sussing out an insincere apology and what might lie behind it.
In this case, the original 'shout-out' was a guessing game about a turn-off.
Turn-off: a person or thing that causes someone to feel bored, disgusted, or sexually repelled.
"he smelled of carbolic soap, a dreadful turn-off".
You and others played along. With yet another game. Just another hook along the way...
Sorry, Tiff, I am apologizing because I did not want to put you on the spot. You're one of the nicest people on this board. I just wanted to illustrate that people can't guess other's motivation and yet some do expect it to happen. My shame.
No shame and I appreciate you trying not to put me on the spot.
You are right in that I am sure a lot of folks couldn't guess my motivation, including Shakira guy. It's always a buzz kill when a stone cold sober person is mixed in with a bunch of strangers who are drunk.
~ pondering your point.
god must be atheistFebruary 21, 2022 at 13:40#6572970 likes
I had fun compiling that list, and it was foolish of me to think that any one of my points was dead on. Perhaps the adage is true, or maybe not, that women want guys to guess their thoughts, but it sure is true that guys' egos are prone to be hurt even with little blows to them. Mine is, anyway.
We are two sides of the same coin in that aspect.
GMA, I appreciate everyone here both those that I agree with and those that question my standing. I am not afraid to show my vulnerabilities here because despite our agreeance or not, I respect you. I respect the members of this forum and the intimate ways in which we operate. It takes a lot of trust and I have placed it in the hands of those here before and I will again. I learn more from those that stand on the opposite side of the topic, than I do in people that agree with me.
{{{GMA}}}
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 21, 2022 at 15:20#6573130 likes
Perhaps it's more a case of over-thinking; caring and worrying too much...
Fair enough. Moi aussi. Guilty as charged. No biggie unless it takes over your brain cell.
If you have insight and awareness, as you have, plus good communication skills, then any potential 'harm' can be healed. Before that, you have to know rather than guess, what and where is the 'harm'...
Is it really harmful to question; to get people to look at their words, their behaviour?
I don't think so.
Especially on a philosophy forum. Especially when only one side of a story can be heard.
Important, therefore, to ask relevant questions and not play it safe just incase it might 'hurt'.
Perhaps the adage is true, or maybe not, that women want guys to guess their thoughts, but it sure is true that guys' egos are prone to be hurt even with little blows to them. Mine is, anyway.
I think most here want to be understood as well as to understand.
Even if you're not religious, St Francis of Assissi's Prayer for Peace kinda covers it, don't you think?
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace:
where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
where there is sadness, joy.
O divine Master, grant that
[b]I may not so much seek
to be consoled as to console,
to be understood as to understand,
to be loved as to love.[/b]
For it is in giving that we receive,
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.
I object to making "Neapolitan" just another category in your range of American pizza types along with all the others, but I'll let it slide. In Iceland and Sweden they put bananas on pizza.
Yeah. I deliberately didn't choose the Disney version.
Most interesting to read the background...
unenlightenedFebruary 21, 2022 at 21:41#6575520 likes
That's the trouble with nonsense - it always insists on meaning shit. :wink: But you should worry, I just put a pro abortion classic song in an antenatal thread! :naughty:
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 23, 2022 at 14:57#6582340 likes
The desert is coming alive with rain~ :flower:
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 23, 2022 at 15:12#6582380 likes
Okay, so I have been actively making the point of not watch the news all the time and with school and my divorce, it has been easy.
So now? I distanced myself from the world at large and we are going to war with Russia???
I beg your pardon???
Who the hell was in charge of this when I wasn't watching??
"This is genius," he [Trump] said of Putin's decision on Monday to officially recognize the breakaway provinces and authorize the use of Russian military personnel to assist them. "So Putin is now saying it’s independent — a large section of Ukraine. I said, how smart is that? And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. We could use that on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace, all right."
javi2541997February 23, 2022 at 16:11#6582680 likes
No. Putin just wants to shove it down Biden's throat that he's impotent.
Admittedly I am not that familiar with impotency, so forgive me if I sound naive, but wouldn't it be hard to "swallow" a flacid penis?"
I'm just cringing at the idea of yuck :gasp:
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 23, 2022 at 18:10#6583100 likes
@Frank's pronouns are indecently indefinite, Biden being the impotent one. "Putin wants to shove Biden's impotence down Biden's throat." Clumsy, repetitious. Putin would have to sever the Presidential Organ first. In fact, "His impotence" could theoretically refer to Putin or Biden, Russia, Nato, the US, the EU, Zimbabwe, or any number of placid flaccid places.
What Frank wanted to say was "Putin wants to assert his post-communist potent virility upon the agéd president of the allegedly erectile-dysfunctional United States and the recently limp-pricked Western Alliance.
?ArguingWAristotleTiff Not hard to swallow, but difficult to force it.
@Frank's pronouns are indecently indefinite, Biden being the impotent one. "Putin wants to shove Biden's impotence down Biden's throat." Clumsy, repetitious. Putin would have to sever the Presidential Organ first. In fact, "His impotence" could theoretically refer to Putin or Biden, Russia, Nato, the US, the EU, Zimbabwe, or any number of placid flaccid places.
What Frank wanted to say was "Putin wants to assert his post-communist potent virility upon the agéd president of the allegedly erectile-dysfunctional United States and the recently limp-pricked Western Alliance.
We shall see who chokes first.
Omgggggggggg!! I'm rolling over here!!!!
lolololol I love you! :heart: :flower: :heart:
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 23, 2022 at 19:17#6583500 likes
Is anyone else having problems signing into Gmail?
What Frank wanted to say was "Putin wants to assert his post-communist potent virility upon the agéd president of the allegedly erectile-dysfunctional United States and the recently limp-pricked Western Alliance.
Exactly. Thank you.
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 23, 2022 at 19:37#6583650 likes
@jamalrob
Good and Thank you!
god must be atheistFebruary 23, 2022 at 20:06#6583760 likes
I remember this song with the Dave Clarke Five back in 1964-ish?? When I was just a fat little kid in the hood. This song catapulted that band into no.1. standing as my favourite band then.
Over the years many bands became favourite, but then they lost the status as I always overplayed their songs. Strangely, I am playing mostly ole' Beatles and Rolling Stones stuff. A bit of Beach Boys (Barbara Ann).
Last night I listened to an overplayed (by me over the years) band, that I hadn't listened to for twenty years, and they floored me with their harmony, structure, melody, beat, and insight of the words. Can you guess which band? Well, the Bee Gees of course. With their hit songs from the 1960s, not with their disco songs.
I remember this song with the Dave Clarke Five back in 1964-ish??
I remember The Dave Clark Five too. 'Glad All Over' was the one.
Overplaying songs was easy; many stayed in the Top 20 Charts forever and a day.
The Beach Boys - 'Break Away'. I couldn't.
The Bee Gees, eh? I never would have guessed.
But yeah, so talented. I had to look up BG's 60s and was reminded of ''I Gotta Get A Message to You', 'Massachusetts' and 'How Do You Mend a Broken Heart' :cool:
I return to the 60s for some sense of a better time, perhaps more innocent.
Away from the present angst to a groovy kind of love.
And then again, I enjoy being caught by surprise. The joy of the new.
Good talking to you :sparkle:
Reply to AmityReply to god must be atheist There are all these great songs from the '60s, but sometimes I just can't match the face of the vocalist to the sound he sings. Take House of the Rising Sun, recorded by the Animals in 1964. Eric Burden (now 81 years old) delivered a splendid gravel throated version. At the time I had no idea what the members of the group looked like. when I watched the YouTube video, I was shocked shocked! at how young and bland Burden appeared. The singer I visualized in the 60s was lean and rugged.
Putin has a castle in the mountains and a $100,000,000 yacht, both of which he bought by stealing money from Mother Russia.
Any talk about Putin doing this or that for anything other than money is a waste of time.
He is creating havoc to hide his crimes and get western leaders, especially Biden, replaced with his puppets, especially Trump, who will give him an open world to spend his wealth.
He is invading Ukraine to expand his wealth.
Greed is Putin's motivating force.
unenlightenedFebruary 24, 2022 at 00:19#6584870 likes
[quote=Frank Underwood]Power is more important than money.[/quote]
The "House of Cards" depiction of the completely amoral politician seems fairly realistic to me. One can always have a bit more of both, mind ...
god must be atheistFebruary 24, 2022 at 03:06#6585490 likes
Reply to Bitter Crank Same here, but for me the visual helped. In his songs, Burden sounded pontificating. "Do your homework!" "Listen to your parents!" that sort of thing, but not the same exact expressions. But when I beheld him singing, it all changed, and for the better!! He was shrewd, impudent, irreverent, a pain in the ass for the establishment. Reply to Amity
I have collected some 2200 songs, more-or-less, that I really enjoy. Not full albums; very few are full albums. I used to go into ecstasy listening to some of these songs. Maybe, or if you ask, I'll publish the song list, but warn you, it is formidably long to read it.
Anyway. I kept listening to them to this day. I started with about 8 GB of music, when I started the digital collection on MP3s, and it has grown to 14 GB.
Once in a while I'd pick up modern songs, and they were just as good as the oldies and goodies, but less frequently occurring, and eventually getting new music just fizzed out for me.
I am bored with it, and I hardly listen to it.
Add to the effect that according to a study I read, a newborn baby can listen to 23 hours of loud rock without any psychological damage, whatsoever; the average teenager, on the average, to about 6-8 hours; the adult in his fifties 2 hours. So the enjoyment duration of music declines in daily amounts as you age. At least this is true for loud bang-bang music. I'm 68, so I listen to ten-twenty minutes every third day. Maybe I would listen more if I could get new music to enjoy, but that's no longer my ambition.
according to a study I read, a newborn baby can listen to 23 hours of loud rock without any psychological damage, whatsoever; the average teenager, on the average, to about 6-8 hours; the adult in his fifties 2 hours.
Interesting. I've rarely been able to take even 2 minutes of rock music without my brain turning into porridge. Can't do pop music in general. I know almost none of the music of my own youth - 1970's-80's. I like some old-school blues and a little 60's soul, but usually I listen to classical music or jazz. I do have a soft spot for outliers like Tom Waits who I consider to be a kind of cabaret artist.
god must be atheistFebruary 24, 2022 at 07:04#6586340 likes
Reply to Tom Storm I hear you. Maybe it's not the fact that it's music that you can't listen to pop and rock for the required amount of time according to your age-group, but the fact that it gets the wrong emotions out of you. I would say your reaction is normal. I am the same way, in a reversed role of genres.
I could never listen to brass blown instruments. It drives me up the wall, their sound. I can't abide with it for a minute. Yet I love Jazz! if it's reduced to drum, keyboard and base. One of the rare jazz pieces I can't get enough of is Take Five by the Dave Brubeck Quartet. Or Quintet. And it's due to the drum solo. The sleeve said, "the drum solo taxes both the player and the listener by working them very hard." I'm also enamoured by the 5/4 beat. In "Do What You Like" by Derek and Dominoes; and some of the songs on "Jesus Christ Superstar".
Almost the same with classical music. Although there it's not the type of instrument that drives me out of the room, but what they play. Still, there are some pieces that move me to tears. I cherish them from the first note to the last. One such surprise for me was the Leonora Overture by L.v.Beethoven.
And Rock n Roll or rock is no exception. There are songs I could never stand and songs that I would put my right arm into the fire for.
Nothing can escape my like or dislike, no genre. Gypsy music, Bollywood music, ballroom music, Latin dancing music, African folk music, Gregorian chants, Ukranian and Russian church choir music, Edward Grieg, Eric Clapton or Eminem.
In conclusion, I have to quote an old friend, who is dead now:
"It's a misconception to believe that musicians play music on their instruments. They play music on your heartstrings."
god must be atheistFebruary 24, 2022 at 07:19#6586420 likes
In my youth in communist Hungary the generation divide was reduced to who listens to what music. Old folks listened to classical: operas, classical ballets and philharmonic music; sometimes Baroque and Tafelmusik. We, youngsters, listened to Western Rock. Oh, and we wore long hair, while our elders beleived in short, boring haircuts.
In the west these two were connected to the Viet Nam war in America, and to peace protests all over the world, as well as free sex (the young and the hippies) and not free sex (prostitutes for older men, pining away aside from sex with their husbands for older ladies.) There were supposedly moral, free-thinking and radical changes in the divide between the old and the young in America, but now that the hippies are in their eighties, and the flower children are in their seventies, and the baby boomers make up most of the white middle class voting block, it turns out that their value systems are remarkably similar to that of their parents whose values the boomers were busy trying to disown.
I could never listen to brass blown instruments. It drives me up the wall, their sound.
I have no right to question this, but...I question this. It's a posture or something you've reinforced over the years by telling it to yourself and others. If you love music, it doesn't make sense. It's like ketchup lovers who refuse to eat anything but Heinz.
Now don't go crazy. I could be completely wrong. From my own experience it seems like some ears are particularly sensitive to certain instruments. I used to play sax but it made my ears go funny on certain notes. Doesn't happen when listening to others play though. In any case, you do you, as they say.
It's an interesting thing to think about, whether there are musical instruments that you just don't like. I used to think I didn't like the Scottish bagpipes, because they're too loud and lacking all subtlety compared to other kinds of bagpipes, but then I climbed a mountain overlooking Glen Coe and heard the piper down in the Glen. And it works nicely in the martial context too, in massed ranks of pipers inspiring awe in the enemy/audience.
Steel drums can get pretty annoying, but again, it's probably about how they're used (although I haven't found any steel drum music I like).
Violin can be horrible, but it's the same thing: in the right hands and playing the right music, it can be beautiful.
Can't think of any more right now.
god must be atheistFebruary 24, 2022 at 07:29#6586470 likes
I'd say that aside from the progressive Black heroes of the Civil Rights movement, the good thing that came out of the boomer's allegedly different value system which was different from their elders, was the empathy that has been growing for fringe, marginalized, and disadvantaged groups without our societies.
Most importantly, the racist attitude of the populous remains, but in a WHOLLY DIFFERENT format of expression from what it had historically been until the late fifties, early sixties in America. Racial hatred has moved underground, and what was once socially acceptable and expected, now causes public outcry, like the treatment of Blacks by some police.
I don't live in America, and I am not Black. so I stay away from trying to sound like an expert; but to me, as a Hungarian living in Canada, there has been tremendous social progress in America due to the "love the world" and "peace to all" attitude of the boomers in the 1960s.
While I stand by that, I do not intend to discount, at all, the tremendous effect of the True Heroes of making discrimination softer, and apartheid to come to close, such as by Rose Park, Mandela, MLK, JFK and many-many others.
god must be atheistFebruary 24, 2022 at 07:35#6586510 likes
I have no right to question this, but...I question this. It's a posture or something you've reinforced over the years by telling it to yourself and others. If you love music, it doesn't make sense. It's like ketchup lovers who refuse to eat anything but Heinz.
Don't you find it a bit pretentious that your disbelief is strong enough to challenge the sincere description of my taste?
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I love chocolate, but I can't eat dark chocolate. It makes me wanna vomit.
You know better than my lifetime of experience and you will challenge that if someone loves chocolate, then that person must love all forms of chocolate.
I tell you young man: your disbelief reflects your lack of capacity to the depth of understanding to know what human nature is.
Go ahead. Pontificate. "GMBA is not right, because his own description of his own taste clashes with my well-established and superior insight into the human psyche."
Reply to god must be atheist Relax, I was provocatively overstating my case. The rest of my post is more interesting (although again, that's in the eye of the beholder).
god must be atheistFebruary 24, 2022 at 07:41#6586550 likes
Reply to jamalrob Okay, I'll relax. I hadn't realized you were just yanking my chains. All is fair on the Shoutbox.
Just don't forget: "Philosophers of the world! Unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains!"
Maybe it's not the fact that it's music that you can't listen to pop and rock, but the fact that it gets the wrong emotions out of you.
An intriguing idea, I like it. I think on reflection I find the sound ugly and the posturing of the artists irritating.
god must be atheistFebruary 24, 2022 at 08:04#6586650 likes
Reply to Tom Storm I agree on the second count of your sentiments. I am the same way. I learned to listen to music by hearing it only. Later, when I saw them on stage, my cheapo seats I could hardly afford were so far away from the stage, that I could see practically dick all.
The first Santana concert I saw was held at Toronto's Old Roy Thompson Hall on Yonge Street, a venue famous for its excellent acoustics. Except my ticket was behind a pillar, a column of mosaicked column. Very wide. I kid you not. The sound blew me away, though.
However, the first footages of rock musicians at action which I watched in movies were of the Beatles, which brought me to tears; they were a bunch of smiling young, innocent kids. Happy, without bounds. The next I saw was of the Rolling of Stones. The RS musicians did not posture, other than Jagger. They just went strumming their guitars. Back in the sixties.
Music videos came two decades after I discovered rock, and I hardly watched any, because they always clashed with the image in my mind that the song elicited. It was never, or very seldom if ever, a visual image; it was mostly an emotional image. I can't explain it better. An image of mood, an image of perhaps complex emotions, brought out in me in intensities larger than life.
How can I have an image of an emotion, of a mood, @Jamalrob that is not visual? I admit I can't. It is a process the description of which defies my language skills. So I used an ersatz instead of precise wording, and the ersatz is hardly satisfactory. Sorry, you have to force yourself to understand what I am struggling to express; if necessary, use painful electric shocks on yourself to successfully reach the eventual happy understanding. :-)
Maybe, or if you ask, I'll publish the song list, but warn you, it is formidably long to read it.
I won't ask for a long list but perhaps a sample of those listened to whenever you 'need a friend'.
Dancing or nodding along to the changing weather... or indeed to change it...
James Taylor - You've Got A Friend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_MdSu0I620
Once in a while I'd pick up modern songs, and they were just as good as the oldies and goodies, but less frequently occurring, and eventually getting new music just fizzed out for me.
I enjoy being caught by surprise. The joy of the new.
When I wrote that I was thinking of 'new' to me, not necessarily modern. I don't go searching but find them here on TPF; notably the 2 music threads and one stand-out discussion started by @tim wood.
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/11845/hillary-hahn-rosalyn-tureck-e-power-biggs/p1
It's about setting a challenge to your ears and listening, not just hearing and dismissing as 'not for me'.
So much of our identity/image, potential relationships can be affected by what we share and care about.
At least this is true for loud bang-bang music. I'm 68, so I listen to ten-twenty minutes every third day. Maybe I would listen more if I could get new music to enjoy, but that's no longer my ambition.
I actually prefer silence for most of the day. I have a CD collection I rarely listen to. Sometimes I listen to the radio. Are you really so routinised?
Take House of the Rising Sun, recorded by the Animals in 1964. Eric Burden (now 81 years old) delivered a splendid gravel throated version. At the time I had no idea what the members of the group looked like. when I watched the YouTube video, I was shocked shocked! at how young and bland Burden appeared. The singer I visualized in the 60s was lean and rugged.
Now you're bringing back even more memories...
I was likewise shocked by Steve Ellis singing 'Everlasting Love'!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaYTNsS_m2w
His band didn't actually play; the backing provided by session musicians
As to Burden's gravelly voice, perhaps this from wiki might explain it, and his look:
'In his song "When I Was Young," he states he met his first love at 13, who was very experienced while he was not. He also says he smoked his first cigarette at 10 years old and would skip school with his friends to drink Newcastle Brown Ale.
Burdon describes his early school years as a "dark nightmare" that "should've been penned by Charles Dickens." Due to the river pollution and humidity in Newcastle he suffered asthma attacks daily.'
It's an interesting thing to think about, whether there are musical instruments that you just don't like
I think that's why I enjoyed the OU mini-music-module 'Start Listening to Music'.
It led me to listen, most carefully, to all the instruments of the orchestra.
I began to appreciate brass which had been a turn-off for me, for particular reasons.
I used to think I didn't like the Scottish bagpipes, because they're too loud and lacking all subtlety compared to other kinds of bagpipes, but then I climbed a mountain overlooking Glen Coe and heard the piper down in the Glen. And it works nicely in the martial context too, in massed ranks of pipers inspiring awe in the enemy/audience.
:smile: That would have been a powerful, wondrous happening. The heart strings plucked.
A climactic experience combining a whole lot of everything. Unforgettable.
I felt a similar stirring on a swelteringly hot Aussie day. The Christmas Parade.
I was just standing on the pavement with my relis - my first ever visit- and didn't expect to hear the amazing sound coming from pipe bands. OMG. The tears...
It was never, or very seldom if ever, a visual image; it was mostly an emotional image. I can't explain it better. An image of mood, an image of perhaps complex emotions, brought out in me in intensities larger than life.
Yes, I think that is true for me too.
Many songs have strong associations of time, place and people.
Emotional indeed but some I listen to with detachment.
YouTube is fantastic...
javi2541997February 24, 2022 at 09:38#6586840 likes
I have reached this week one year in this forum. It is true that I was off sometimes. But I am happy to be here debating and sharing my wiews with you, friends. :100: :flower:
I have reached this week one year in this forum. It is true that I was off sometimes. But I am happy to be here debating and sharing my wiews with you, friends. :100: :flower:
Congratulations :party:
I think I'm about 3yrs plus 2 months with gaps.
Happy to be here too, right now, with you and others :sparkle:
javi2541997February 24, 2022 at 10:27#6586910 likes
and the midgies. But in my dream, everything is perfect :cool:
Schmaltzy.
Clint Eastwood. "I Talk To the Trees"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn8YubD01sk
Think I'll get me a matching one. Wore out my Aussie hat with swinging corks.
Now, the question:
The colour. Black or white?
Hmmm. To hell with it. Both. For :halo: and :naughty: days.
Much more, the pinch front crease’s difference is the brim’s size. It’s larger than that of fedora and outback hats. Still, some pinch front crease hats look like traditional cowboy hats.
Most ladies love to use pinch-front cowboy hats because of the shape and size of the crowns. Also, if you want to make your face look thinner, choose the Pinch-front crease cowboy hats. The hat will make your face look narrower and with quite delicate jaws.
Tired of postmodernist despair? Bored with international politics? You need the diversion of a philosophical novelty. Let me see those eyeballs rolling!
I posted this in the Ukraine discussion but it's now lost in the propaganda war that's going on there, so I'll post it here, just because I think it's good to see this reaction to the invasion from inside Russia.
(The Moscow Times is an independent Moscow-based English language newspaper that's often highly critical of the regime)
Following are some quotes from a couple of the original documents mentioned in the above article (Google translated):
From 150+ scientists:
An open letter from Russian scientists and science journalists against the war with Ukraine
We, Russian scientists and scientific journalists, declare a strong protest against the hostilities launched by the armed forces of our country on the territory of Ukraine. This fatal step leads to huge human losses and undermines the foundations of the established system of international security. The responsibility for unleashing a new war in Europe lies entirely with Russia. There is no rational justification for this war. Attempts to use the situation in Donbass as a pretext for launching a military operation do not inspire any confidence. It is clear that Ukraine does not pose a threat to the security of our country. The war against her is unfair and frankly senseless.
Ukraine has been and remains a country close to us. Many of us have relatives, friends and scientific colleagues living in Ukraine. Our fathers, grandfathers and great-grandfathers fought together against Nazism. Unleashing a war for the sake of the geopolitical ambitions of the leadership of the Russian Federation, driven by dubious historiosophical fantasies, is a cynical betrayal of their memory.
We respect Ukrainian statehood, which rests on really working democratic institutions. We treat the European choice of our neighbors with understanding. We are convinced that all problems in relations between our countries can be resolved peacefully. Having unleashed the war, Russia doomed itself to international isolation, to the position of a pariah country. This means that we, scientists, will no longer be able to do our job normally: after all, conducting scientific research is unthinkable without full cooperation with colleagues from other countries.
The isolation of Russia from the world means further cultural and technological degradation of our country in the complete absence of positive prospects. War with Ukraine is a step to nowhere. It is bitter for us to realize that our country, which made a decisive contribution to the victory over Nazism, has now become the instigator of a new war on the European continent. We demand an immediate halt to all military operations directed against Ukraine. We demand respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Ukrainian state. We demand peace for our countries.
And from 150 local authority deputies in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Samara, etc:
Against the war
Fellow citizens! We, the deputies elected by the people, unreservedly condemn the attack of the Russian army on Ukraine. This is an unparalleled atrocity for which there is and cannot be justification.
The decision to attack was made personally by Russian President Vladimir Putin. We are convinced that the citizens of Russia did not give him such a mandate.
War with Ukraine will lead to catastrophic consequences. Thousands of people will die, be injured and maimed, cities dear to many Russians will be destroyed. Our country is waiting for the condemnation of the world community, isolation, rising prices and poverty. Hopes for a good life in Russia are crumbling before our eyes.
We urge you not to participate in the aggression and not to approve of it. Please don't be silent: only massive popular condemnation can stop the war.
Maybe letters from some scientists and relatively powerless local authority members from around the corner in the neighborhood don't count for much (I'm not sure), but it's something.
There's also this statement from Russian journalists, published via Meduza, which is Russian but based in Latvia:
I posted this in the Ukraine discussion but it's now lost in the propaganda war that's going on there, so I'll post it here, just because I think it's good to see this reaction to the invasion from inside Russia.
Thanks for posting this here. I no longer participate in that thread. It was worthwhile and helped give context but has turned a bit nasty.
I've been wondering about Russian reaction, including your own.
Good to see such open condemnation and hopefully the start of Putin's downfall.
My heart goes out to all affected by this full-scale attack on innocent citizens.
A strong response is required immediately with humanitarian help for refugees.
It's a most grave situation which looks set to escalate.
I hope that Putin can be stopped...by his own...
I have reached this week one year in this forum. It is true that I was off sometimes. But I am happy to be here debating and sharing my wiews with you, friends.
You bring an interesting perspective to the forum. It's a good thing you're here.
I'm thinking of those men forced to nod their heads in obedience to their Master. Listening to fellow Russians' condemnations, they might be spurred to action.
Also the increasing sanctions re banks etc.
A steady accumulation of hits...
Perhaps, there will be some kind of internal takeover...
Like you, I have no idea how that would work.
Who is in the position to do that?
god must be atheistFebruary 24, 2022 at 15:23#6588220 likes
Reply to jamalrob "War is hell." General William Tecumseh Sherman. 150 years ago. Nothing changed as far as that aspect goes, except people's memories. The farther into the past is the most recent war, the rosier the glasses people see it through.
English translation: the more distant the last war was, the more people forget how horrific it was, and they start anew.
javi2541997February 24, 2022 at 15:31#6588320 likes
Reply to praxis Yeh they hate it. My wife--and pretty much everyone here--has Ukrainian friends and family, and they are sending videos from Kiev with air raid sirens and all that. The feeling is that the people in power are assholes.
Also see my earlier post if you didn't see it: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/658790
I won't ask for a long list but perhaps a sample of those listened to whenever you 'need a friend'.
Dancing or nodding along to the changing weather... or indeed to change it...
here's a neat little short list, mostly modern pop, from the 80s to the present.
I heard all of them first and always without the visuals. More powerful that way, you build your own guided fantasy that way.
Two of the songs is not even in English.
The best for the last. Late ninteen-sixties, the pearly-haired girl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRe9SsSFTes
Team BS Case depart
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 24, 2022 at 23:51#6590240 likes
"It's alright, I been to the bottom, and I've seen the end
Wanna forever be together 'til the end
And I found the problem, it starts with me
I figured out now what I want, got what I need ..."
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 24, 2022 at 23:53#6590250 likes
I think the idea of unconditional love is a fools idea.
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff
I like the idea of unconditional love. Not because we could ever escape conditions or gain some leverage by it. It seems to me to happen despite many of our impulses. A strange unsolicited counterpoint.
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 25, 2022 at 00:11#6590320 likes
I like the idea of unconditional love. Not because we could ever escape conditions or gain some leverage by it. It seems to me to happen despite many of our impulses. A strange unsolicited counterpoint.
Paine, I used to love the idea of unconditional love my whole life. But I have found that I do have some conditions and it's better that I know it now because some conditions would be deal breakers.
But before we get to deep in the weeds, roleplay with me for a minute.
Game?
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 25, 2022 at 00:17#6590340 likes
@Paine Let's pretend that you and I fall madly in love (I don't even know your gender but it doesn't matter here) and we swear to one another that you Paine have unconditional love for me Tiff.
We live a happy couple of years and then one day on the way home from a club, I look at you and say, let's rob this liquor store for kicks! You know that I love you unconditionally :heart:
And I know you love me unconditionally too :hearts:
I pull the car in front of the liquor store and say come on let's go grab some money like we agreed.
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff
That does sound like a fun date. Too fun, maybe. But my experience of that sort of love would not put me in that situation. The sudden is the proof of secrets. True love sees all things.
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 25, 2022 at 00:32#6590390 likes
That does sound like a fun date. Too fun, maybe. But my experience of that sort of love would not put me in that situation. The sudden is the proof of secrets. True love sees all things.
I was exaggerating to make the point, that a lot of people have a core set of beliefs that they might not always realize that it is an internal guide to which action/actions go past our subconscious threshold of unconditional love.
Does that make sense?
I look at you and say, let's rob this liquor store for kicks! You know that I love you unconditionally :heart:
And I know you love me unconditionally too :hearts:
I pull the car in front of the liquor store and say come on let's go grab some money like we agreed.
Here's how unconditional love works - I offer you my love and friendship with no need or expectation that you will accept or return it. Unconditional love is fearless, but no armed robbery is required.
Came back after a short hiatus to see what the forum has to say on the current situation. I'm a little frightened, gotta admit.
What is it that frightens you? The current situation or what is being said on the forum?
What is happening in Ukraine and beyond is horrendous. Civilians killed and fleeing for their lives. The various perspectives and analyses discussed are interesting, some informative but also a bit on the scary side...
A straight line. On a heart monitor. But that would mean death or neutrality.
The ups and downs and roundabouts of lively discussion are the life-force of philosophy.
As well as considered analysis and careful dialogue. @jamalrob and team are central to keeping keen thinkers around. But any forum is only as good as its participants. There are more than enough good ones to keep going strong...
It would appear that even a 60 cycle hum has its very regular ups and downs.
Yes. But such well-formed regularity isn't what happens here, I don't think.
People come and go for short, long, forever periods. Quantity and quality of discussions likewise.
There are reasons why this happens.
For me, the Plato discussions were spoiled by someone who still maintains a pattern of trolling and misrepresentation, to say the least, whose worst posts were removed. And warnings were given.
So now, newcomers don't see the behaviour and give the 'benefit of the doubt', where no such doubt exists for me and others affected. Some are now gone, some have returned. and others ignore.
Again, we all work out for ourselves if it is worthwhile to continue...or keep a distance... @jamalrob and his hard-working team must despair at times.
I thank them for monitoring certain posters who bring a dishonest approach to discussion.
Also, other knowledgeable thinkers who recognise and call them out.
Acceptance of ups and down is one thing. What matters is the length and quality of each.
What brings the downs back up? Not people who back off, for sure.
I take breaks for my own sake and sanity.
But I haven't found a better place for keeping the mind sharp and having fun.
A learning experience in every sense. Old and new. TPF is a blast.
here's a neat little short list, mostly modern pop, from the 80s to the present.
I heard all of them first and always without the visuals. More powerful that way, you build your own guided fantasy that way.
Thanks. From the 80s to the present, I'm pretty much ignorant of pop music.
Visuals can enhance the listening experience. I am thinking of the discussion I had with @tim wood:
Re: Hillary Hahn's Lark Ascending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOWN5fQnzGk
I agree that some YouTube videos often detract from the song.
What do you mean by a 'guided fantasy'?
god must be atheistFebruary 25, 2022 at 14:44#6592460 likes
I am sure I did not use the right phrase. A leader (group or individual) puts you in a very relaxed state of mind, you are usually lying down comfortably. Then he or she, the leader, will describe images for you that you envision in your mind. Most frequently they will tell you to see yourself in a non-challenging, relaxing, and pleasant environment and they go from there. Most people come out of it saying this is the next best experience to sex.
I don't know what it's properly called. It is not hypnotism, although the two share many elements.
Mostly the situation. I should make a point to be more clear whenever I say things, I find I often leave out context.
john, we are here for you and your mind that might be restless. One of the many beautiful things about the forum is that we are worldwide, which means, there is always someone here and able to interact with you, so please, know that you are never alone. We are here in any way you need.
My private inbox is always open if you ever feel the need to express yourself in private.
Just check in with us, we are here and will be through this storm.
Stay strong! :strong:
Tiffers :flower:
What is it that frightens you? The current situation or what is being said on the forum?
— Amity
Mostly the situation. I should make a point to be more clear whenever I say things, I find I often leave out context.
Yeah, me too. I often leave things unsaid but am always glad if someone asks me to clarify.
Thanks for that.
The current situation is frightening, no doubt about that.
Imagine the fear and yet bravery of those who stand in opposition to this mad, bad dictator and his army. The Russians too - in illegal protest - show this is not what they want. For that, they are beaten and thrown into prison.
Putin has launched an all-out war by land, sea and air on Ukraine, thereby offering little in the way of escape. The front-line is everywhere.
Ukraine has a population of 44 million compared to Russia's 146. The resources to fight and defend are negligible...the suffering will be immense.
Not only that, the repercussions will be felt worldwide.
Perhaps, in Europe, we had a false sense of security. According to Ch4's Matt Frei, this is the first time in 70yrs since 2 major countries on this continent have gone to war on this scale.
We are in a new era.
Putin has said that if anyone tries to oppose him, Russia's response will be rapid with consequences never before faced in our history. That seems to suggest his willingness to go nuclear...
On top of all we have gone through, this is unbelievable and scary as hell.
In the UK, we have had Brexit and Covid, never mind a dishonest and corrupt PM.
It makes me both angry and dismayed beyond belief.
However, at least we aren't being bombed to death...yet. Hopefully never.
There is fear and uncertainty about our changing way of life.
How must children feel when they hear talk of a possible WW3; this after covid restrictions?
It's bad enough for adults but if we can talk it through it helps.
Analyses of the history and issues of blame - well, that's fine up to a point...
I'm glad you brought up the emotional side; some don't look at that aspect or share feelings.
I haven't listened to or watched any news today.
Fortunately, a friend dragged me out for a drive along a nearby loch.
Then a lunch, natter and a laugh put things into perspective.
I appreciate being given the chance to say more about it here, even if it might be long-winded.
Forgive me, I don't think I could ever write a short story.
Give my love to Oscar and the Coconut. Your writing is fantastic :cool:
Stay safe and well.
pull the car in front of the liquor store and say come on let's go grab some money like we agreed.
Unconditional love doesn't require unconditional compliance. If it did, that would be the condition.
Unconditional love means loving the person regardless of what they do. The best example is mother to child.
Ukraine will end like all wars, where the Ukrainians suffer terribly while the Russians fight for decades, never able to win, until finally they leave, and the Ukraine tries to recover from the useless pursuit.
unenlightenedFebruary 26, 2022 at 20:02#6597440 likes
Ukraine will end like all wars, where the Ukrainians suffer terribly while the Russians fight for decades, never able to win, until finally they leave, and the Ukraine tries to recover from the useless pursuit.
You just described the Viet Nam war, the Afghan war against CCCP, and the Afghan war against USA.
god must be atheistFebruary 26, 2022 at 20:47#6597670 likes
Unconditional love doesn't require unconditional compliance. If it did, that would be the condition.
Unconditional love means loving the person regardless of what they do. The best example is mother to child.
I once wrote about that. It was an essay, titled "Unconditional Love, Unconditional Expectations".
Ukraine will end like all wars, where the Ukrainians suffer terribly while the Russians fight for decades, never able to win, until finally they leave, and the Ukraine tries to recover from the useless pursuit.
I hope not for decades.
I get the impression, I think from @jamalrob that they are pretty much like family to each other. There is a closeness. Many Russians are protesting despite danger to themselves. I think Putin has made a grave misjudgement.
Reply to T Clark the Balkans are an insoluble simmering cesspool of dissatisfactions. They (various) have had conflict for quite some time. Tito's regime kept a lid on all the ethnic squabbling, but he didn't resolve it. Of course it predated Tito. It predated Archduke Frank Ferdinand and his crown-snatching subject, Gavrilo Princip. I read a history of the region, but it is so murky it is hard to make sense of it.
the Balkan are an insoluble simmering cesspool of dissatisfactions. They (various) have had conflict for quite some time. Tito's regime kept a lid on all the ethnic squabbling, but he didn't resolve it. Of course it predated Tito. It predated Archduke Frank Ferdinand and his subject, Gavrilo Princip. I read a history of the region, but it is so murky it is hard to make sense of it.
Everything you say is no doubt right. That's where the word "balkanization" came from. But, as I noted, a lot of innocent lives were saved.
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 27, 2022 at 01:38#6598560 likes
Reply to T Clark Yes, I should have acknowledged your good point about lives saved. Still, it was a vicious affair.
To the extent that a given war involves two (or more) groups who know each other well, it seems to be worse. Fratricidal viciousness. Rwanda, for instance. Or Cambodia. Of course, strangers can do a perfectly fine job of killing people they don't know.
As we continue on through this grim century (and the next one) where food and water will be in short supply in a hotter, dryer world, there will probably be more fratricidal conflict.
[quote="Amity;659784"]I get the impression, I think from jamalrob that they are pretty much like family to each other.
Unfortunately this isn't a guarantee that things will stay that way. Serbs and Croats spoke the same language and lived in the same streets. Russians and Ukrainians lived and worked together in Donetsk etc. And what BC said.
Noble DustFebruary 27, 2022 at 05:53#6599520 likes
Dinner: marinated pork chops over rice, sautéed mustard greens, and pickled daikon radish. Vaguely Taiwanese.
javi2541997February 27, 2022 at 06:55#6599740 likes
Reply to Noble DustReply to javi2541997 Mustard and pork were made for each other -- a sharp, horseradish coarse ground. With sweet potato or mashed white potatoes and pork gravy. Alas, I never cook a large enough piece of pork to make gravy.
However, that is not what I had for supper. I had some baked xtra lean grass-fed beef, a baked potato, and brussels sprouts. Spell Check thinks I'm talking about Belgium.
Oh, I see: you are talking about mustard greens.
Noble DustFebruary 27, 2022 at 07:12#6599850 likes
Ah, but mustard greens are in fact the greens of the mustard (?) plant. That horseradish heat is very much in play. Imagine eating collards or cooked kale but your nasal passages get destroyed. Excellent. And yes, it pairs perfectly with pork. And don't skimp on the pickled Daikon. I pickled them myself.
Noble DustFebruary 27, 2022 at 07:18#6599890 likes
Mustard greens make them have that little spicy flavor in the pork. I always tend to buy French mustard because they have all the grains around. I do not like the rest of the mustards where are full of sugar
Noble DustFebruary 27, 2022 at 08:20#6600230 likes
I once described myself as a pizza asshole. When it comes to mustard, I would describe myself as a mustard ecumenicalist. From bright yellow American mustard, to grainy French. It's all mustard.
javi2541997February 27, 2022 at 08:47#6600320 likes
Serbs and Croats spoke the same language and lived in the same streets.
Yes, but they smoked differenent brands of tobacco cigarettes. That's a serious enough difference in pro-ethnic culture to lop his head off. This is not a joke.
Also, Croats worte with Latin letters, Serbs with Cyrillic characters. If you did not know whether to protect someone random on the street or to shoot him, you asked her (yes, females too) to spell, "Iz Voronyezh v Donyetsk."
Second, how come it only takes one piece of paper to commit and a couple hundred and counting to divorce?
The first paper says you will combine your lives. Easily done.
The rest are to specify which parts of your life you want back, which you will be flexible on, which you will fight for, which you will give up, which you will burn before parting with, etc. and then all of the back and forth that goes with that lovely dance. All for $6.00 a minute, on both sides. Telephone calls, emails, etc...all at $6.00 a minute. And yes, the answer to your question will likely run you a few hundred dollars. The reality is you are entitled to 50%, so best case you get half. Worst case, your lawyer gets half, his lawyer gets half, and you both get nothing. Isn't it grand?
Don't worry, in 15 years you will have almost recovered financially. Good times.
Thanks for reminding me. I have a bag of bussels sprouts in the refrigerator. Love them. Everyone seems to like them sauteed or roasted these days, but I like them steamed. They are one of those foods that I feel good after eating. I think maybe I have a dietary deficiency - not enough sproutonium in my diet.
When I was 15, I worked at a Chinese restaurant and I would pour this really hot mustard powder in a bucket and mix in water and make that really hot mustard paste you'd put on egg rolls. It would burn if you breathed it in.
It also burned the shit out of my sausage.
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 27, 2022 at 16:52#6602260 likes
The first paper says you will combine your lives. Easily done.
T[s]he rest are to specify which parts of your life you want back, which you will be flexible on, which you will fight for, which you will give up, which you will burn before parting with, etc. and then all of the back and forth that goes with that lovely dance. All for $6.00 a minute, on both sides. Telephone calls, emails, etc...all at $6.00 a minute. And yes, the answer to your question will likely run you a few hundred dollars. The reality is you are entitled to 50%, so best case you get half. Worst case, your lawyer gets half, his lawyer gets half, and you both get nothing. Isn't it grand?[/s]
Don't worry, in 15 years you will have almost recovered financially. Good times.
In 15 years I will be 66 omgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
god must be atheistFebruary 27, 2022 at 20:10#6603080 likes
That's when life REALLY starts. 40 is the new 20, and 60 is the new 40. With a little bit of logical manipulation -- should not be hard for a philosopher lady -- you can show that clearly, 60 is the new 20. Therefore in 15 years you will be precisely 26 years of age.
It's not a given we age forward or that we maintain identity through time. I'm just saying these "how old will I be" hypotheticals you guys casually throw around are awfully presumptuous.
They used it in chemical warfare during WW1. I remember those days. It was harsh.
Frank!! Is that you??? I was in Foxhole 8 with you right next to the gurgling latrine pit. I'm not sure which smelled worse, the mustard gas or the fermented soldier shit. Crazy times those were!!
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff I figured it out when I divorced, and all my friends divorced: it takes about 1.5 times as long to recover as time spent married, until that 15 year mark, then it settles. Not awesome.
you always ate those limburger cheese sandwiches. Boy what a stink.
Hey! Limburger cheese makers have enough public relations problems without you adding more.
Here's a superior sandwich:
2 slices of high quality rye bread
2 slices of onion
liver pate for medium layer on bread
limburger cheese for medium layer on bread
Serve with beer
Sadly, limburger cheese is hard to find. It used to be more common. They still make it in Wisconsin (where the state motto is "Eat Cheese or Die".
Yes, it is one of the stinky cheeses; yes, it does have an earthy aroma. Tough. Get used to it. There are non-stinky cheeses, of course but no cheese is more repulsive than Velveeta or American cheese-like product.
Noble DustFebruary 28, 2022 at 05:14#6606580 likes
Do you mean two small rings of onion on the sandwich, or two entire disectional slices of an onion proper? This is a crucial distinction.
2 lousy onion rings? These wimpy philistines. Of course not! Grip the onion firmly in hand (finger tips folded under), seize a cleaver, aim carefully, and whack off 2 manly solid slices of juicy flavor. Slap it onto the sturdy slice of bread. Slather on limburger cheese and (pork liver) Braunschweiger.
Devour, and be sure to breathe heavily on any wimps who find real food objectionable.
Noble DustFebruary 28, 2022 at 05:35#6606780 likes
Reply to Bitter Crank That scenery is definitely not the South. Vast open spaces, fields of grass with no trees, pioneer/Amish clothing? Imposters I say.
ArguingWAristotleTiffFebruary 28, 2022 at 14:54#6609150 likes
Alright, for those of you have followed this getting to know new people idea that has been suggested to me, here is my Saturday night encounter.
I was chilling at home, surfing the net and dropping in comments in some Redditt threads. Okay my eldest indian warned me about not getting in too deep with Redditt and I stepped right in it.
I was asked to private message, and I thought sure what the hell, right? Oh my, my, do I have an answer now, NOW.
The guy had quick wit and seemed fairly friendly, but I had no idea of his age, but I quickly disclosed that I was 51 and he was like cool. I said are you of age? He said "Yes, Ma'am I am 23. I said I don't really care because we were just chatting. We were batting back challenges like guessing where in the world we each were located. He said "I am gentleman so he would give me three chances to guess, okay?" When I didn't guess it, he said would you like a hint my lady? (First flag) I said sure and I still didn't guess it. I asked for another hint to which he responded, "I am a gentleman but a strict one my lady." (Second flag)
I said okay tell me where in the world you are. He said "I'm feeling generous with you my lady. I will give you one more hint." I didn't get it so we moved onto where I am located in the world. He didn't guess it correctly the first or the second time. I said you have got one more chance. He said "Would you my lady be fair and give me a hint?" I said sure. He then wanted to know what he would win if he got it right. I said what do you think is fair? He said "I get to ask you any questions for 60 seconds, fair?"
I said okay and I will be dipped if he didn't guess my country and state. I was like damn...
He said "So I won, do I get to collect my prize?" I said absolutely.
Shoot with your questions and the first one out of his mouth was "if it would be okay for him to call me his Queen?" (THIRD flag) I said what are the rest of your questions as you are running out of time.
He said "Is it okay with you if I call you 'Mommy'?" :gasp:
Ummm NO to both of your questions. I said I have that title already and the two that call me Mommy is way more than I will ever need, I promise you.
Akward moments of silence on my part as he continued to ask for maybe in the future that I would be okay with him calling me My Queen....omg no.
Tiffers 0/ Men 2 (Shakira and Mommy dude)
Is this really necessary to go through to find friends?
I'm ok with it. I'm having a pretty good time now, and I'd like to live a while longer, but my children are all grown. I know they can take care of themselves and each other.
That scenery is definitely not the South. Vast open spaces, fields of grass with no trees, pioneer/Amish clothing? Imposters I say.
Hey - that Video was validated by the BBC's Anti-Deception Orifice and they say it was definitely done in southern somewhere. Ukraine? Iowa? Australia?
Lol. Iron Maiden has a nice line to characterize such situations: "Everybody's got their vice". From the masterpiece '22 Acacia Avenue".
TOBI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just shot me already and take me out of my misery!
This kid is following me around Reddit. So anytime I post a comment, he responds to me with "Hello?"
OMG! Why can't it be a guy, maybe an attorney or Professor, that is looking for something other than a stroke of their expensive ego?
This kid is following me around Reddit. So anytime I post a comment, he responds to me with "Hello?"
OMG! Why can't it be a guy, maybe an attorney or Professor, that is looking for something other than a stroke of their expensive ego?
Remember Marco, the guy from the Netherlands who harassed the forum a couple of months ago? I think it may be him.
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 01, 2022 at 15:39#6614590 likes
Remember Marco, the guy from the Netherlands who harassed the forum a couple of months ago? I think it may be him.
Yeah I think I just caught him in a lie. The place he said he was from is different from what his other comments suggest. Now it could be that he is of x and y descent, and living in z.
OIE I cannot even imagine having to pay to an online matching group and dealing with this.
I was told to remain loveable...
Go out and see what's out there....it will be fun they said... :confused:
Just tell him that you are no longer interested in contact with him whatsoever and subsequently ignore him. It happens. He might like you or he thinks he does. Remaining lovable does not mean do not be honest. He will go away when there is not chance. However Reddit groups are maybe not the most profitable hunting grounds if you look for something genuine. Paying for a site has the advantage that your counter party also has to and so he invested already and might be more serious. Although prepare for a legion of men who just want sex. It is as it is.
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 02, 2022 at 00:13#6616490 likes
When I was part of a dating site (paid) I realized that you only get contacted by people you don't want to hear from.
So I quit looking for dates (for other reasons, too) and concentrated on participating on their forums.
To wit, I don't think I ever got contacted by a woman on dating sites. Ever. Not even once.
My dating site experience is that you quickly realize it's a numbers game, where you have to send out hundreds of messages with the hopes of getting a few hits. Those few hits turn into fewer exchanges of numbers, which turns into fewer actual dates, which turns into a few actual relationships, which turns into a single wife. Which is how mine ended. Actually that's what happened.
Yes it's frustrating, but it does work, and it beats actually leaving your house. I found my wife playing around on my phone, which is what I would have been doing anyway.
There's an art to it, which once you master, you no longer need it, although I do find my online charm and wit helpful here, endearing me to all.
See that "endearing me to all" comment? It's comments like that that make me endearing.
I'm ok with it. I'm having a pretty good time now, and I'd like to live a while longer, but my children are all grown. I know they can take care of themselves and each other.
I'm going to have my kids take care of me when I get older. I have an end of life directive that if I'm old, confused, unable to care for my basic needs, and have no reasonable expectation of recovery that they spare no expense in keeping me alive as absolutely long as possible, regardless of the emotional and financial burden it poses. I want to be sure I'm not deprived a single sacred breath.
I understand the pain that might cause, but I won't be aware of it and then I'll die and never know, so it won't make much difference to me.
I have an end of life directive that if I'm old, confused, unable to care for my basic needs, and have no reasonable expectation of recovery that they spare no expense in keeping me alive as absolutely long as possible, regardless of the emotional and financial burden it poses.
I think that's a good policy if your children have any money. Mine don't.
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 03, 2022 at 00:24#6621500 likes
Okay heading to the firehouse for week 2 :flower:
Wish me luck!
Except that anti-natalists are the kind of people that, if they did have kids, their kids wouldn't take care of them. I guess it's like that country song - If your phone don't ring, that'll be me.
Except that anti-natalists are the kind of people that, if they did have kids, their kids wouldn't take care of them.
No question - I was thinking about the rest of us...
Which reminds me of the old line - if everyone you meet turns out to be an arsehole, it's you that's the arsehole. I say this because my daughter recently had a look at one of the discussions here and muttered this under her breath as she slammed my laptop shut.
I was reminded tonight why it's good to always explore ideas as an artist, even if they don't seem to be going anywhere. I went from putzing about apathetically with a piece of audio I was trying to turn into an interesting loop, to making a watershed track for me, I think. Harebrained curiosity is sometimes all that seems to be needed.
god must be atheistMarch 03, 2022 at 12:50#6623050 likes
I have an end of life directive that if I'm old, confused, unable to care for my basic needs, and have no reasonable expectation of recovery that they spare no expense in keeping me alive as absolutely long as possible, regardless of the emotional and financial burden it poses.
I have two end-of-life directives:
1. Don't let it happen
2. When the time comes when End of Life is imminent and unavoidable, then refer to point 1.
I could play the demure, secretive, passionate man of mystery that I am not, or I could relate the naked truth: I was fat.
I was fat too, and after being quite svelte for a few years, I am now quite overweight. This means, first, that I can empathize with your plight, and second, that I am free to call you a fat fuck. :joke:
god must be atheistMarch 03, 2022 at 13:14#6623160 likes
I was fat too, and after being quite svelte for a few years, I am now quite overweight. This means, first, that I can empathize with your plight, and second, that I am free to call you a fat fuck. :joke:
You must have misunderstood me. I was fat, but lacked sexual favours from otherwise potential and desirable partners.
A tall, willowy blonde walks into a bar. Sits down, orders a drink. Everybody is hushed, she's quite the woman. Attractive. Finally a short-ish, but otherwise fat and middle-aged, balding, sweaty-type guy gathers up all his gumption, walks up to her and says, "hey, lady, what do you say to a little fuck?" She looks at him, pats him on the head, and says, absent-mindedly, "Hi, little fuck!"
So long as you don't mind if I call you Little Fuck. :razz:
I have one more anecdote to spare. But I'll spare you for the time being.
if everyone you meet turns out to be an arsehole, it's you that's the arsehole.
Guy driving home gets a call from his wife. She says: "Darling, be careful. I've just heard on the news there's a maniac driving the wrong way up the motorway." He says: "What do you mean 'a maniac'? There's hundreds of them."
Lose weight, find someone, gain the weight back. Duh.
Bin der, dun dat.
Great Assholes think alike.
Well, I am lying a bit. As in I'm fibbing. I lost the weight, and it did not quite do the trick. The clincher was that my cardiologist (you got to have one, if you want to be somebody) prescribed hormone replacement therapy for me.
That changed my whole world. It gave me some immediate difference in muscle structure, in posture, and I bet in the way I looked at people. I was still short, but for some reason I became noticed again, by women; they started to give me the time of day again. It could also be that I produced pheromones again in larger quantities. (Haha, I said 'tities'.) I don't know.
Then I met my lover. Seven years ago. Maybe six? Eight? Who keeps count?
Yes, the only lover so far who loves me, and not only for sex. I actually don't know why she loves me. I asked her once, and she was unable to give me an intelligible answer. We are both stumped.
I stick with her now, because love does not come with every scheduled delivery of plexiglass dividers.
god must be atheistMarch 03, 2022 at 13:52#6623330 likes
I'm leaving the house now. Can I deliver tomorrow? If your curiosity allows you to survive 'till then. By "deliver" I meant the story, not from evil.
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 03, 2022 at 13:57#6623340 likes
Wait...are you telling me that the guys at the gym are just there till they hook someone then they puff up?
Good lord, someone needs to update me on this...
The gym guy and I still say hi but it hasn't advanced beyond that. However there is a guy, about my age, who does that single large wheel that you roll down on your knees until it's out in front of you and then back to his knees.
My heavens he isn't strikingly gorgeous but the imagination needn't wander far with muscles that can perform that move.
However there is a guy, about my age, who does that single large wheel that you roll down on your knees until it's out in front of you and then back to his knees.
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Yes, but I'm not going to leave my wife, and for her it's more complicated. For her it means leaving the business that she runs day-to-day in the main office in Moscow, with no plan for the future.
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 03, 2022 at 14:35#6623660 likes
Yes, but I'm not going to leave my wife, and for her it's more complicated. For her it means leaving the business that she runs day-to-day in the main office in Moscow, with no plan for the future.
I'm sorry to know that you are going through rough shit but I do know that I wouldn't leave my mate either because at the time, I could never have imagined life without him.
I'm going to keep you and your family in my prayers.
God's speed to you :flower:
Yes, but I'm not going to leave my wife, and for her it's more complicated. For her it means leaving the business that she runs day-to-day in the main office in Moscow, with no plan for the future.
Can't the two of you just live off the proceeds from here?
Can't the two of you just live off the proceeds from here?
If he wants to leave, I am sure we could accommodate, right?
We have been living in this home on the internet for how many years?
I do believe we have a balance due...
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 03, 2022 at 19:50#6624940 likes
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 03, 2022 at 20:40#6625200 likes
12 more days before Cosmic Wanker and I go before the judge to end this marriage.
I could see it as the 12 days of Christmas countdown...?
I do find it quite ironic that we go before the judge on March 15th, "Steak and Bj" day.
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Let me set it up for you. There's a woman here in my office whose husband just brought home a baby he had with a co-worker and that apparently wasn't part of their marital agreement, so they're getting a divorce. I'm trying to get her to let me set her up on a dating website.
I could put both of you on the same account and you could do a 2 for 1 deal.
Just let me know when you want me to get it going.
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 03, 2022 at 22:27#6625970 likes
Just let me know when you want me to get it going.
I'm game now
god must be atheistMarch 03, 2022 at 23:26#6626090 likes
Reply to jamalrob I'm back now, but I promised to play cards at 7 (in a half hour). Just checking out the news on the forum. I'll try to compose the story I promised you off-line, so I can send it to you or post it here when it's ready.
god must be atheistMarch 04, 2022 at 02:23#6626440 likes
I may sound like I'm braggin', but that's farthest from the truth. I am going to regale of a bygone era that only happened once in written human history.
In the seventies those who were promiscuous, could live it out, without any repercussion by social standards. STDs were kept at bay, until of course Herpesvirus Hominis reared its ugly head, and soon after, when AIDS hit the single's markets.
I did not practice promiscuity in the seventies; I was too little a boy, immature, an immigrant, runnin' scared. But come the eighties, I found my niche: I joined a "meet-and-greet" club in a church. They had started to run a singles club, to encourage the church members to find compatible mates and settle down. The plan backfired: the singes in town used it as a musical-chairs sort of meeting ground.
I was the youngest, and I did not mind, I enjoyed the company of older women. I dated several in the club; in fact, I went after all of them, with a gusto, and I only did not date those who refused me. Some women became lifelong friends, some, lifelong enemies.
There were of course some permanent cliques, like in all loosely associated social organizations. I was one of the lone wolves; people actually laughed behind my back, or were jealous, or indignant, or fearful. Because I had a handful of ladies to date. Some people were supportive of me, because they saw some potential there. (No pun intended.) Intellectual, social potential.
Some ladies (at that time you could not call them ladies; you could not call them women; you could not call them dames; you could not call them females; anything you called them, there were some in the group that took exception to the collective noun used) hated me at first, and therefore they refused me; then they hated me even more, when I never asked them out again.
As all things in North America, this club had its heyday, then its decline, and finally it folded after a twenty-year run.
Many years passed, and I bumped into one of the ladies that did not like me along with the other members of her circle. We were on talking terms, nothing hateful, we just did not mingle. She told me they had names for everyone; they called the guy who danced by stomping his feet the exterminator; the lady who was popular the scarlet lady; the pipe-smoking guy the wretched-mouth. I asked her what my nickname was. She said, "The Fucker."
And boy, was it ever apt.
It is a derogatory term, yet I wear that nickname with distinction.
On a sadder note: most of my dates have passed on. On the average, they were twenty-some odd years older than I. I've been checking the obituaries, and there was one year back about six years ago when four of them died, and each one had old age dementia. According to the obits, which their children must have written, they were so out of it that they could only smile in the last few years of their lives. They had lost all their language skills. These four were highly trained professionals, with their children spanning an even more spectacular career path.
Reply to god must be atheist I was promiscuous in the 70s and 80s both. Charles Shively, a Harvard guy, wrote an essay for Gay Community New of Boston about 'promiscuity as a revolutionary act', maybe 1974 or '75. I was as revolutionary as I could manage.
True enough, one could have lots of sex without becoming an outcast -- at least in many circles. In some circles you'd be an outcast I you didn't. There were enduring and significant health consequences, however. STDs are not a picnic. Syphilis can still be cured with penicillin, but gonorrhea has become immune to penicillin and requires larger and larger doses of newer antibiotics to cure. There are now multi-drug resistant strains of gonorrhea.
For many people, HPV was a non-event--like me, for instance. Didn't know I had been infected until 30-40 years later when I developed throat cancer caused by types 16 and 18 of HPV. Fortunately it is more easily cured than smoking related cancer. When I was working in AIDS education I often talked to people about HPV, not knowing I carried those two types. Hepatitis B can be quite bad (I know from experience) and Hep C has the unfortunate habit of causing liver cancer.
Chlamydia has become a bigger deal, especially after a fast test was developed to detect it. It has more serious consequences for women than men.
Some gay men developed recurrent cases of intestinal parasites. (Let's not go there.). Treatable, but unpleasant. Worms are endemic in developing countries, not so much in Manhattan. I never had them.
Then AIDS, of course. HPV, herpes, shingles, and other viral infections that had been dormant often flared up in people with AIDS, some of them causing a lot of misery on their own. AIDS had been circulating in the 70s. It's still out there, though there is much, much less excuse for anybody to become infected now, as opposed to 40 years ago.
On a sadder note: most of my dates have passed on.
This is a consequence of not dying young. The older you get, the fewer of one's past dates, flames, friends, lovers, spouses, fellow workers, worst enemies, etc. that are still on earth.
god must be atheistMarch 04, 2022 at 07:23#6626980 likes
Reply to Bitter Crank You've had quite a bout with STDs, Bitter Crank. I somehow escaped unscathed. Maybe you were more active, with more partners. The Gay community had fared worse than the straight men, for numerous reasons.
I was diagnosed with non-specific urethritis twice. They were STDs, but for some reason I got them for different reasons. I told both partners, and they went to the doctor and had a clean (negative) test.
Now I need to be very careful with hygiene, because I take a pill (among many others) for diabetes that allows the liver to NOT retain sugar in the blood stream. That makes the urine prone to bacterial diseases, since the urine is full of sugar, which microbes just LOVE to feast on.
As far as I know I have never contracted any different kind of STDs, oh, yes, except for recurring things on my lips, which is clearly Herpes. Got it from a girlfriend, whom I dated for about 6 months. Another gf of mine had Herpes, but we used protection because of that.
Herpes has a tendency to appear less and less often, and it is only infectious when it appears. I haven't had an outbreak on my lips now for at least 5 years now, while in the beginning I'd have them as often as 4 times a year. People call it politely "cold sores", but those people just don't want to face the music.
god must be atheistMarch 04, 2022 at 07:35#6626990 likes
@Jamalrob I have a cultural question to ask you. A total digression from the previous topic.
I drove taxi way back when for two Russian Jewish garages. And I lived in a rooming house with a Russian Jewish landlord.
All these three people whom I was in a dependent relationship with, abused me. Not physically or sexually, but financially and any other way they were able to.
None of these people were aware that I was Jewish too, because my last name is typically Hungarian, not at all Jewish. Dad was an RC Christian.
So... question (which they did not teach us in school) : do the Russians, esp. Jewish Russians, have something in for the Hungarians? I would not be surprised if this dated back to WWII, as Hungary sided heavily with Germany then, and we fought bitterly on their side against the Red Army.
Also, 1956 could have been a sour spot on Hungarian-Russian relations. Hungarians assume it was one-sided, but it could very easily have been reciprocal.
do the Russians, esp. Jewish Russians, have something in for the Hungarians?
I am sorry about your mistreatment and your continued bitterness, but I have no idea. I know one Jewish Russian family and I see them quite often. They're well-travelled, know a lot about the world, and they're basically liberal. It's quite possible that they have an opinion on Hungary, but so far it's never come up. Maybe I'll ask them about it when I next see them: "hey, a guy I know online wants to know what you people have against Hungarians".
"hey, a guy I know online wants to know what you people have against Hungarians"
Ha ha ha!! Brilliant point. The beauty of knowing people off-line is that it's so much harder to apply sweeping generalisations when confronted with a real human being in front of you. I was sharing a dinner with a Palestinian and discussing the two state solution. I never thought to ask him - "Why do you people keep trying to murder Jews?"
Reply to Cuthbert Indeed, although I'm sure that would have brought a certain excitement to the discussion.
god must be atheistMarch 04, 2022 at 12:32#6627690 likes
Reply to jamalrob thanks, Jamalrob; it is not something I take personally, because they had no reason to be personally biassed against me. I was one of the guys. But the treatment was remarkably different, and the only thing I was reasonably ascertain as difference was my mistaken ethnic identity.
I know I do have paranoid tendencies, evident ever since childhood; but this is not one of them.
I read an article that said the pharmaceutical companies purposefully stigmatized herpes, a typically benign, although occasionally annoying, skin outbreak in order to increase sales of anti herpes medications.
Not sure if that's true, but if it is, it seems to have worked.
On the average, they were twenty-some odd years older than I. I've been checking the obituaries, and there was one year back about six years ago when four of them died, and each one had old age dementia. According to the obits, which their children must have written, they were so out of it that they could only smile in the last few years of their lives. They had lost all their language skills. These four were highly trained professionals, with their children spanning an even more spectacular career path.
thanks, Jamalrob; it is not something I take personally, because they had no reason to be personally biassed against me. I was one of the guys. But the treatment was remarkably different, and the only thing I was reasonably ascertain as difference was my mistaken ethnic identity.
Maybe you were annoying. That's been my Achilles heel.
god must be atheistMarch 04, 2022 at 13:46#6627930 likes
EDIT: Hungary, I assume. I know nothing about the Russian presence in Hungary in Soviet times or later, aside from the brutal crackdown following the uprising in 1956. Safe to say that some Russians probably didn't have much respect for local concerns or, I guess, local people.
When I was in prison, my nickname was ________.
When I was a volleyball coach, my nickname was ________.
When I was a pool boy, my nickname was _________.
When I was a gynecologist, my nickname was ________.
When I was a sheep farmer, my nickname was ___________.
I think "Jackhammer" works well in all these examples.
Fortunately I didn't have everything I described. Oddly, I've never had herpes simplex (cold sores). I've had nonspecific urethritis and it appeared years after the last contact with anyone, a testimony to enterprising bacteria. Urinary tract infections can be hard on older people, producing disorientation, pain, fever, malaise.
You guys scare me sometimes.... :rofl:
How in the hell am I ever going to meet a guy that even comes close to measuring up to the standards you all have set?
I am serious!
unenlightenedMarch 04, 2022 at 19:07#6629340 likes
I think "Jackhammer" works well in all these examples.
Reminds me of a legendary champion at our local chess club. He was a strange fella, but cool, especially compared to us, nerdy chess players wearing glasses. He played an adventurous style of chess too, attacking play, tactical, not always correct but keeping on the pressure.
When he would see is opponent in a difficult position, in the silent room with only the ticking of the clock he would go: "That's why they call me... Overkill!" Or "That's why they call me.... Hardball!" With a rather booming voice startling everyone. Totally illegal of course but because he was a funny and cheerful guy he got away with it. He left the club after a couple of years and I heard he became known in the local arcades as "The Mortal Combat God".
god must be atheistMarch 05, 2022 at 01:24#6630630 likes
How in the hell am I ever going to meet a guy that even comes close to measuring up to the standards you all have set?
I don't know. I should have thought that it should not be so hard to find a middle-aged, balding, fat and sweaty white privileged fat slob with a foul mouth living in his mother's basement, who verbally abuses everyone around himself. But hey, I never been a woman, maybe these sort of guys are really, but really, hard to come by. Oh, and herpes. I forgot the herpes. He's gotta have it.
god must be atheistMarch 05, 2022 at 01:41#6630750 likes
When I was in prison, my nickname was Killer.
When I was a volleyball coach, my nickname was The Coach.
When I was a pool boy, my nickname was fuck-boy.
When I was a gynecologist, my nickname was yewww.
When I was a sheep farmer, my nickname was Dr. Pasteur.
I still have the suspicion that that country does not actually exist... Perhaps it is a figment of our imagination, or worse, we have been indoctrinated with Canadianism, thinking that it is a place that actually exist, whereas it really does not...
I still have the suspicion that that country does not actually exist... Perhaps it is a figment of our imagination, or worse, we have been indoctrinated with Canadianism, thinking that it is a place that actually exist, whereas it really does not...
[i]dicens, advena fui in terra aliena.
[Moses] said, I have been a stranger in a strange land.[/i] :flower:
I still have the suspicion that that country does not actually exist... Perhaps it is a figment of our imagination, or worse, we have been indoctrinated with Canadianism, thinking that it is a place that actually exist, whereas it really does not...
Here's your problem - the correct country name is not "Canada," it's "Canadia." Lots of people get that wrong. Confuses things. Many people think the North Pole is just north of Angle, Minnesota.
Not only is it questionable whether Canada exists, no one even knows the Canadian national anthem past the words "Oh Canada." People just say "la la la la" after that and pretend to know the words, but their la las are just more of the bullshit that pretends to be Canada.
Not only is it questionable whether Canada exists, no one even knows the Canadian national anthem past the words "Oh Canada." People just say "la la la la" after that and pretend to know the words, but their la las are just more of the bullshit that pretends to be Canada.
I guess their national anthem changes depending on what the authorities like us to think about that place. Usually it seems to be benign, but with a place that does not exist, one can never really be sure. One moment Canada might become some sort of fairytale country that is held up for us to emulate, but when it suits the powers that be, it becomes some sort of Mordor I guess, Icy, with wildlings.
Here's your problem - the correct country name is not "Canada," it's "Canadia." Lots of people get that wrong. Confuses things. Many people think the North Pole is just north of Angle, Minnesota.
Hmmm, highly suspicious. Do you have shares in Canada, or are you one of those Canadaddicts I have heard being mentioned? People that cannot get enough of Canada, but especially of telling other people about Canada in order to bring them to the fold.
Hmmm, highly suspicious. Do you have shares in Canada, or are you one of those Canadaddicts I have heard being mentioned? People that cannot get enough of Canada, but especially of telling other people about Canada in order to bring them to the fold.
You're not listening! It's "Canadia." You're like @Noble Dust who went on an on claiming that the correct name was Canadian Goose instead of Canada Goose.
O Canada! Our home and native land!
True patriot love thou dost in us command.
We see thee rising fair, dear land,
The True North, strong and free;
And stand on guard, O Canada,
We stand on guard for thee.
(Refrain)
O Canada! O Canada!
O Canada! We stand on guard for thee,
O Canada! We stand on guard for thee.
O Canada! Where pines and maples grow,
Great prairies spread and lordly rivers flow,
How dear to us thy broad domain,
From East to Western sea!
Thou land of hope for all who toil!
Thou True North, strong and free!
(Refrain)
O Canada! Beneath thy shining skies
May stalwart sons and gentle maidens rise,
To keep thee steadfast through the years
From East to Western sea,
Our own beloved native land,
Our True North, strong and free!
(Refrain)
Ruler Supreme, Who hearest humble prayer,
Hold our dominion within Thy loving care.
Help us to find, O God, in Thee
A lasting, rich reward,
As waiting for the Better Day,
We ever stand on guard.
(Refrain)
Dignified, unlike the cornball piece sung to a British drinking song (Anacreon in Heaven)
O say, can you see
By the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hail'd
At the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars
Through the perilous fight
O'er the ramparts we watch'd
Were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket's red glare
The bombs bursting in air
Gave proof through the night
That our flag was still there
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free
And the home of the brave?
This anacreontic nonsense goes on for 3 more verses, by the way.
O say, the horrible tune was composed for use by the Anacreontic Society, a group of bar-fly professionals in 18th Century London. Franz Joseph Hayden attended their soiree once. [Bierce's dictionary defines "once" as "enough".]
Yes, all dignified and stuff with stalwart sons and gentle maidens. Elokent... elikwint...good. Give me the bright blood red glare of a rocket any time.
god must be atheistMarch 06, 2022 at 06:40#6634430 likes
Who doesn't have pines and maples? Like that's something to brag about? Why don't they sing about their buzzards and rocks while they're at it?
It's very hard for a nation to sing about something that only they have.
O Canada should have lines about prime minister dynasties, with pretty boys in line to the chair, and what else... oh, maybe clubbing baby seals. Yes, that definitely ought to be in there. What else... the longest outdoor skating rink, the Rideau Canal. OH, and the education hoax. That's one of our biggest industries. Unemployment... strikes by public service sector workers... fresh water... clean air... eagles and snow... goose and geese... dams and locks... lucks and box... ducks and you-know-what.
Although I suspect the you-know-what goes on all over the king place.
Think nothing of it. Elizabethan English didn't come along for another 1600 years, but everybody in the Bible speaks it, with a Shakespearean accent.
God who knows all things between the Alpha and the Omega apparently thought that at the time Latin was pretty good, and then 1600 years later, modern Elizabethan English was even better. That goes to show that while the Jews were the chosen people, Hebrew apparently wasn't the chosen language.
god must be atheistMarch 06, 2022 at 06:53#6634460 likes
Who doesn't have pines and maples? Like that's something to brag about?
that's not unique per se... but Canada is the only country where the most expensive paintings (local production) shows nothing but snow, rocks, pines and maples. The locals lap those up as if they were maple syrup.
god must be atheistMarch 06, 2022 at 07:00#6634480 likes
Think about it. If the US has accepted ownership of Detroit and Trenton, Canada (or whatever it calls itself) has to be even worse than those.
Canada is clean. (Yecch.) Canada has fresh air. (Ugh.) Canada has tons of clear water, blue skies, hot springs, oil wells, clean and healthy prostitutes, happy lumberjacks, smiling labour force, free medical service, expensive housing and the longest ocean shore property in the world; it has also a well-organized and prosperous crack cocaine distribution system that requires no handguns for its everyday operations. Oh, and NO democracy; we elect an absolute tyrant every four years. If we don't like the way he oppresses us or rails on us, we elect another tyrant and hope for the best.
What would America want to do with that? Honestly? It turns every American's stomach just to think of these things.
Reply to god must be atheist Yes, clubbing baby seals then eating poutine, French-Canadian crap traditionally made of limp French fries, stale cheese curds, ad covered with rancid gravy. They invented the slop, they should sing about it.
O Canada! Our home and native land!
that slop, poutine, does not come can'd.
Stale Fries, bad cheese, and rancid gravy
O Canada, let us die of poutine poisoning.
god must be atheistMarch 06, 2022 at 07:06#6634500 likes
If there is a Canada, and that is a HUGE if, it must suck really bad because if it were even worth a half a shit, it would already be part of America.
Well... it is. Even America is a part of America, while at the same time it is apart from America. Apart from The Department of Apartments, America has many compartments; for instance, the Glove.
god must be atheistMarch 06, 2022 at 07:13#6634520 likes
WE, Canadians, as much as we don't exist, still have developed herd immunity to this poison. We hunt the woolly American with putting poutine in the tourist traps. Hence the name: put-in, or poutine. Like labour-labor, valour-valor, etc.
Reply to god must be atheist When I was browsing Canadian art (in Canadia, I might add) I saw more birches than maples. But again, birch trees are not unique to Canada. They're all over the place here.
Conversely, there are many bald eagles in Canada (in British Columbia) but the US got it as its national bird, leaving Canada with the gray jay, a lowly bird in comparison.
When I was a child in Scotland, teachers and other adults led me to believe that the golden eagle was peculiarly Scottish, and I was shocked when I found out later that it's the most widely distributed eagle in the world, soaring on thermals and eating rabbits from Kazakhstan to Kansas.
Same with thistles.
Oddly, I only found out recently that the national animal of Scotland is the unicorn.
god must be atheistMarch 06, 2022 at 10:37#6634940 likes
When I was browsing Canadian art (in Canadia, I might add) I saw more birches than maples.
I won't argue with you. I, as a non-existent Canadian, am unable to tell if a tree is a Bitch tree, a Maple tree, or an Apple tree. Show me a tree, and if you say it is located in Canadia, then I say it's maple or pine.
Not only is it questionable whether Canada exists, no one even knows the Canadian national anthem past the words "Oh Canada." People just say "la la la la" after that and pretend to know the words, but their la las are just more of the bullshit that pretends to be Canada.
An insider's story: we change the wording every five to seven business days. The official wording, not the la la la la part. This is for privacy reasons. We also must include upper-and-lower case vowels, numbers, and at least 3972 special characters such as the Hash (short for hash brown) and the Hash (short for hash brownies).
There are special lobby groups with huge money behind them, who compete against each other to change the words of the National Anthem to ridicule one province or another. "OH, Canada, Ontarians got acorns in their ears" or "Oh, Canada, Albertans' hockey sticks bend with the wind when they piss", etc.
NO democracy; we elect an absolute tyrant every four years. If we don't like the way he oppresses us or rails on us, we elect another tyrant and hope for the best
But we have options! We can vote for what type of footwear the tyrant has! Is it a hiking boot? a steel toed boot? Tap dance shoes? I mean, talk about amazing choices, what type of foot wear would you like to have step on you for the next four years? Feel the freedom!
Joro spiders are becoming invasive here. I won't post a picture because they're kind of shockingly large, but they aren't dangerous to humans and their main food is mosquitoes.
So we have Japanese tiger mosquitoes and now a Japanese spider to eat them.
When I was a child in Scotland, teachers and other adults led me to believe that the golden eagle was peculiarly Scottish, and I was shocked when I found out later that it's the most widely distributed eagle in the world, soaring on thermals and eating rabbits from Kazakhstan to Kansas.
I'll share my youthful tales as well. When I was a laddie back in Scotland, we were of a most modest income, my father earning barely a farthing per fortnight as a street urchin exterminator. My kilts were all tattered and far too short, leaving my burgeoning manhood peeking menacingly just beyond the hem. My repeated vigorous attempts to subdue it only provided temporary relief, so seeking a more permanent solution, I fashioned paper adorned cards with my favorite footballers' faces to cover it. Mum prepared cellophane strips dipped in molasses to affix the cards to the pendulous visitor in order to conceal it, which worked quite well and created much ado in our tiny peat covered village.
A shout out to @Benkei and his peeps. Just when you thought all that could be done to coffee and tea had been done, the Dutch came up with a cookie you put on top of the cup to heat and melt the cookie.
Reply to frank Should you really be posting pics of wankers in the shoutbox? Can't you start a thread to keep them away from the general public. :lol: :rofl:
No, no, children. Scotch Tape comes from Saint Paul, MN -- because Minnesotans have never been able to hold it together without it.
BTW, if the dick under your kilt was pointed the same way it is in the phallic stelae above, and not this way º|º ] you wouldn't have needed to cover anything with your two little English postage stamps.
Steamed? I prefer them sauteed and at some point adding a dash of water and covering the pan for a few minutes to lightly steam.
Sauted or roast is the most common way of getting brussels sprouts these days. Those are ok, but I love them steamed with just a little butter and salt.
Reply to T Clark Until well into adulthood I though brussels sprouts grew in the dirt as little cabbages. I was shocked--shocked!--when I discovered the truth,
The texture of the cookie was wafflesque, which was odd, considering waffles typically come from Belgium, not Holland, although I'm not really sure there is a difference between the two.
Yeah, that sounds really good. Where did you get it?
Marshall's, which is where I go for all my discount needs. They have an assortment of unusual spices and foods these days.
I also bought a ceramic cat with a toilet brush in it. Snowball (the name I gave her) sits proudly beside the toilet, awaiting whatever is asked of her.
I also bought a ceramic cat with a toilet brush in it. Snowball (the name I gave her) sits proudly beside the toilet, awaiting whatever is asked of her.
I've forgotten how to use the fast food drive-through (I don't normally go to fast food). So anyway, I entered the driveway and pulled up to the drive-through window and started rattling off my order, and the girl said "please go back to the microphone box and order from there." So, I had to exit the driveway and go around one more time and pulled up next to the speaker phone with the menu. And then I inched toward the window where the girl was and she handed me my order.
What's Marshalls? Like the store with departments? [I'm stupid about a lot of things, just letting you know]
It's a US discount chain store. I think it's in Canada too, to the extent Canada actually exists.
It's strip mall based, as opposed to mall based, which means nothing to you if you're not US based. It's like TJ Maxx, but it has more random stuff there. It seems to be near Target a lot of times, which is good place to get housewares, if you're in need of that.
I've forgotten how to use the fast food drive-through (I don't normally go to fast food).
I'm not sure if you've ever pumped gas, but if you drive off with the nozzle in your car, it breaks off and turns off the pump. No matter how funny you think it is when you walk in with the hose and put it on the counter, the attendant doesn't.
I have a friend who knows someone who went north of Tennessee and he says there might have been a Canada somewhere up there. Until someone brings me a Canada person, I'm still calling bullshit
I saw a documentary once where this lady's house was swirled up in a tornado and it landed in Canada on top of a witch and little midgets came out and danced around. It was pretty terrifying.
It's a US discount chain store. I think it's in Canada too, to the extent Canada actually exists.
It's strip mall based, as opposed to mall based, which means nothing to you if you're not US based. It's like TJ Maxx, but it has more random stuff there. It seems to be near Target a lot of times, which is good place to get housewares, if you're in need of that.
Oh I know those stores. I thought you're in some other place else with "Marshalls". I mean there could be a store called Marshalls that's like a supermarket.
The cat (toilet brush and holder) and her placement.
I learned the hard way, that women like to place the toilet brush right beside the tank, shre toward the wall from the actual bay.
This is not good if you have a man in the house.
Normal men spray every which way around toilets. Not because they are rude, although they may be that, or stupid or a bad shot. It's just that urine comes gushing out not ONLY in a straight stream, but also as a spray at the same time. Therefore everything and everyone who is near a toilet when a man is facing it gets a bit sticky.
But not the toilet brush with a neat holder!! It instead collects the spray in the little lathel-like compartment that is under it. AT the bottom. Then the urine ferments there. (Kids, don't try this at home. This is a different type of fermi from wine or beer.) In little or no time, there is a brownish liquid in the bottom of the lathel; it is putrid, vividly compostatious, and vile. Once in a vile you empty it.
Fools! You have no perception! The stakes we are gambling are frighteningly high. Put... the... damnded cat and lathel away to somewhere where it better can hide.
Cat and the lathel... better can hide,
Can hide, can hide where it can hide
So just like the spraying won't be caught and collected
Can hide, can hide, this spraying this spraying this spraying can hide.
Unless, of course, there are no other persons in your household but women.
Don't settle for anyone that is intimidated by your mind. Also, maybe start by looking for mostly sober guys...just a thought.
Interesting that you say, "mostly sober". May I be so bold as to ask the theory behind it?
I really didn't think I was intimidating by my mind. Having said that, I do believe one of the biggest reasons our marriage is ending is because my desire to finish my schooling, graduate with the degree necessary to do what I want to do with my career that I willing and with no regrets, left to come home raise our family.
I thought he would see this a bonus as he has been the sole bread winner for so many years.
~shrugs~
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 07, 2022 at 14:40#6639700 likes
@Hanover
~bratty grins~
Really? A kitty cover? :razz:
Not much difference between a sink and a urinal, except urinals have no hot water. Turn the water on and pissaway. Neater, quicker, cheaper.
Funnel?
or something more masculine, automotive...
god must be atheistMarch 07, 2022 at 23:09#6641750 likes
Reply to Bitter Crank I sense an escalation. If I keep resisting, I fear that you will first suggest catheterization, then a complete sex exchange, followed by assisted suicide.
Reply to god must be atheist No, I'm not in favor of people having sex changes. Sex exchanges are something else altogether. Catheterization is unpleasant so that's out. No assisted suicide either. You are perfectly safe.
But one last one:
I don't know who did this, but Kohler in Sheboygan, Wisconsin [bathroom fixture company]
encourages its designers to come up with creative designs for toilets, urinals, sink, and so forth. 99.9% will never see production, but it's an interesting project.
Was a cactus or a venus fly trap the inspiration here?
I need a painting for my living room. Suggestions please.
I've always thought that Dali's 'Young Virgin Auto-sodomized by the Horns of Her Own Chasity' is a beguiling landscape, especially if you are sharing your home with a maiden aunt called Gemima.
I've always thought that Dali's 'Young Virgin Auto-sodomized by the Horns of Her Own Chasity' is a beguiling landscape, especially if you are sharing your home with a maiden aunt called Gemima
A thoughtful choice, but I fear a bit too autobiographical.
This is the alleged virgin about to be rudely and robustly sodomized by something vaguely resembling a rhino horn:
Wikipedia says:
Dalí painted many of his subjects as composed of rhinoceros horns. Here, the young virgin's buttocks consist of two converging horns and two horns float beneath; "as the horns simultaneously comprise and threaten to sodomise the callipygian figure, she is effectively (auto) sodomised by her own constitution."
The conical penetrator of the alleged virgin allegedly resembles a rhino horn. Was Dali a sick chicken, or just full of stool?
Reply to jamalrob Furious proletarian women messing around at a forge is never a good sign.
Which reminds me of Ambrose Bierce's definition of the GARTER, n. An elastic band intended to keep a woman from coming out of her stockings and desolating the country.
"mostly sober". May I be so bold as to ask the theory behind it?
Relatively simple really: us non-drinkers are quite rare. So if you are ok with a mostly sober type it ups your odds of finding someone. Having said that, I am a fan of not settling for anything less than flat out amazing. Always be you, anyone that isn't cool with that can keep on walking. And it is simpler and way easier to remember as you don't have to try to remember how you behaved the last time you were out.
I need a painting for my living room. Suggestions please
I have a Parkes painting: Gargoyles chasing bubbles being blown by a girl. One of the gargoyles is leaping from it's post to get a bubble. He will most likely fall to his doom as he has no wings but it has always resonated with me. My wife says it reminds her of me.
Reply to Hanover Canada exists. I am in it. And I exist...as much as I think Canada and I exist. Although lately, I exist more than Canada and the idea that once was Canada is fading fast, so maybe it doesn't exist per se, but is more the beginning of a children's bedtime story..."there once was a place called Canada, with clean water and clean air..."
I might write that story. Hopefully it has a happy ending?
god must be atheistMarch 08, 2022 at 10:38#6643440 likes
I had a picture hanging in my room forever. Until I got tired of it. It was the ultimate picture for philosophers.
I would like to show you, but I am not able to post photos 'ere.
god must be atheistMarch 08, 2022 at 10:40#6643460 likes
Reply to Book273 I also have a picture that I call the pictorial form of my alter-ego. I can't post pictures here, though, as much as I would like the world to see.
god must be atheistMarch 08, 2022 at 10:43#6643470 likes
And it is simpler and way easier to remember as you don't have to try to remember how you behaved the last time you were out.
Simpler, but less effective. A person who changes his or her attitude, behaviour, underwear, Myers-Briggs type, height, weight and species between consecutive meetings is always more alluring than a plane person.
Reply to god must be atheist I disagree. If I want to be with someone who will be whatever they think I want but not themselves, I will rent them for however long I like. That would make it a professional relationship: very simple, clear parameters, clear cost, clear end result. Not appealing to me, per se, but not without it's advantages.
If a person is "plain", the opinion of the beholder, then they are with the wrong person. What is plain to Bob may be world shattering for Carl, and visa versa. If one wants a solid relationship, be yourself. If you want fantasy, break out your wallet, count your cash, and order it.
Pastry or pottery. Not real, in any case. The jpeg file of an real rhino, horn and all, was apparently defective -- it wouldn't upload. The time budget for that Shoutbox post had been exceeded, so I settled for the fake rhino.
The body looks like an elephant. But somehow when their heads were forming, they went through some photoshop and eliminated the trunk (pesky and heavy) and ears (not aerodynamic, so they replaced with trumpet-like folds).
Reply to L'éléphant It is interesting how far forward on the 'snout' the eyes are located, or is it how large it's 'forehead' is? And per Muybridge's photos of horses, it appears like all four feet of this steed are (or were/ will be) off the ground at one time.
Reply to Bitter Crank
Yup! They run -- all four feet off the ground. That's a white rhino.
The eyes are weird, I thought only chordates would have eyes on the sides, like fish eyes are on the sides.
Relatively simple really: us non-drinkers are quite rare. So if you are ok with a mostly sober type it ups your odds of finding someone. Having said that, I am a fan of not settling for anything less than flat out amazing. Always be you, anyone that isn't cool with that can keep on walking. And it is simpler and way easier to remember as you don't have to try to remember how you behaved the last time you were out.
I have taken the bold words to heart and am carrying them with me. Thank y6u for reminding me that I have worth. :flower:
Lame self image I know but I am working on it.
The body looks like an elephant. But somehow when their heads were forming, they went through some photoshop and eliminated the trunk (pesky and heavy) and ears (not aerodynamic, so they replaced with trumpet-like folds).
Looks like someone also removed the horn so there would be no reason to poach the animal.
If you can't get them at your grocery store, just take regular mineolas and soak them in blood. Any kind will work. I like chicken, but whatever you can find.
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 09, 2022 at 15:47#6647490 likes
If you can't get them at your grocery store, just take regular mineolas and soak them in blood. Any kind will work. I like chicken, but whatever you can find.
Geez...you are rivaling @Hanover with that recipe.
god must be atheistMarch 09, 2022 at 16:23#6647560 likes
I think it's a grown-up rhino, with its tusk sawed off. Most likely by poachers, or else by wildlife preservationists or rangers, to save it form certain death by poachers.
Rhino tusks pulverized is sold in China as an aphrodisiac. It commands top bucks.
"What does Fire emoji mean? The fire emoji is a flame that is mostly yellow with a little red on the top. It is used to signify that something is cool, awesome, exciting, or more colloquially, “on fire.” It can also convey that someone is sexy, (i.e., hot), or refer to other various metaphorical fires."
"What does Fire emoji mean? The fire emoji is a flame that is mostly yellow with a little red on the top. It is used to signify that something is cool, awesome, exciting, or more colloquially, “on fire.” It can also convey that someone is sexy, (i.e., hot), or refer to other various metaphorical fires."
That makes sense. I think I'm confused by the fact that to flame someone is to say something unreasonable and very harsh about them.
Thank you for the laugh of the day!!! We sure need a bit of cheer on the East Coast of AUS today.
We are drenched = tears of the gods? They are overdoing it for sure.
Reply to L'éléphantReply to T Clark Squirrel eyes are... what, semi-forward facing, semi side facing. They have to have good spacial perception to be able to leap at high speed from branch to branch to bird feeder. On the other hand, they need to keep a wide angle scan for predators.
Simple observation of squirrels chasing through the tree tops suggests that they are equipped with good eyesight. Morphological examination of the squirrel eye suggests excellent, wide-angle vision with exceptional focussing power across the whole retina. We humans, by contrast, have a single point on the retina, called the fovea centralis (or simply fovea), where our colour and detail sensing cone cells are most densely packed and hence our vision is sharpest. The result is that while we can only focus on a single (central) area at a time, the periphery remaining blurred, a squirrel can clearly see what's next to, and above, it without moving its head. Squirrels, like humans, also have a blind spot caused by the optic nerve passing through the retina and, in The Eurasian Red Squirrel, Bosch and Lurz note that it forms a small strip at the top of their field of view. Squirrel vision is based heavily on movement. They will approach an observer to within a couple of feet, if she/he is standing very still, although the slightest movement can have them dashing for cover.
god must be atheistMarch 10, 2022 at 15:04#6651410 likes
Tiff, thanks. Your presence on the forum certainly has helped flared tempers to subside. The touch of a lady.
Guys lock horns. The strongest wins. Ladies smooth things out. They solve the problem of differences by making everyone to calm down take a deep breath and relax.
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 10, 2022 at 21:15#6652610 likes
Tiff, thanks. Your presence on the forum certainly has helped flared tempers to subside. The touch of a lady.
Guys lock horns. The strongest wins. Ladies smooth things out. They solve the problem of differences by making everyone to calm down take a deep breath and relax.
Thank you for being genuine. I am having to rebuild my life and I am glad you are a member of the family for me to lean on in times of weakness.
Today I am grateful in more than one way in regards to surviving this chaos we call life. :flower:
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 10, 2022 at 21:18#6652640 likes
Does anyone know what's happening with/to him? I hope he's okay and healthy.
I reached out to Banno and he and his lovely wife, both who are very dear to me, and they are doing well. Banno gave me permission to say that he is doing good just taking a break. Appreciative of being part of our family here. :heart:
Tiffers :flower:
(Banno's lap dog) :sparkle:
Just taking a break, oh sure, how many times have we heard that old line. Let’s not kid ourselves, he’s dumping us, probably found some new hot philosophy forum. Well he better not come crawling back after he gets bored with them. :broken:
Just taking a break, oh sure, how many times have we heard that old line. Let’s not kid ourselves, he’s dumping us, probably found some new hot philosophy forum. Well he better not come crawling back after he gets bored with them. :broken:
Watch yourself praxis, if I growl it's because I am not afraid to bite. :shade:
Oh, you think my little joke was a dig at your current situation? I’m a horrible person but I’m not that horrible.
I didn't think you were that is why I warned. :sparkle:
I'm quick to react right now because I am in Warrior mode and it's getting pervasive. I cannot wait until I take off my armor and just be me.
Reply to Noble Dust Things go out of style all the time, of course. The symbolic freshness of 'doviness' was used up decades ago. Sort of like over-used Christmas carols.
Reply to L'éléphant Doves are pigeons. As a famous New Yorkers described them, pigeons (and doves) are rats with wings. Sort of extreme, I suppose. 1 pigeon is OK. 500 pigeons are a smelly flock. Gertrude Stein wrote about pigeons.
From "Four Saints in Three Acts" an opera
Pigeons on the grass alas.
Pigeons on the grass alas.
Short longer grass short longer longer shorter yellow grass. Pigeons
large pigeons on the shorter longer yellow grass alas pigeons on the
grass.
If they were not pigeons what were they.
If they were not pigeons on the grass alas what were they. He had
heard of a third and he asked about it it was a magpie in the sky.
If a magpie in the sky on the sky can not cry if the pigeon on the
grass alas can alas and to pass the pigeon on the grass alas and the
magpie in the sky on the sky and to try and to try alas on the
grass alas the pigeon on the grass the pigeon on the grass and alas.
They might be very well they might be very well very well they might
be.
Let Lucy Lily Lily Lucy Lucy let Lucy Lucy Lily Lily Lily Lily
Lily let Lily Lucy Lucy let Lily. Let Lucy Lily.
Four Saint in Three Acts is odd as opera, odd as just about anything. Not unpleasant, just very Gertrude Stein (the librettist). Virgil Thompson wrote the score.
Reply to Noble Dust No. The only relief for tired doves is the same as the relief for tired Christmas carols: They must undergo a 25 to 50 year hiatus. Then, when they are allowed back in, everyone will think they are just great.
Doves are pigeons. As a famous New Yorkers described them, pigeons (and doves) are rats with wings. Sort of extreme, I suppose. 1 pigeon is OK. 500 pigeons are a smelly flock. Gertrude Stein wrote about pigeons.
The comparison makes sense in one way. "Rats" is a harsh term for pests. And you know the meaning of pests -- they're in abundance with little to no use at all (not beauty, not purpose) except to increase ugliness.
Some people are annoyed with pigeons -- the sound, the sheer number, and the droppings.
I remember a nature photographer/traveler who commented on the penguins in the Antarctic. We only see the neat, cute pictures on magazines and calendars, but never the hundreds of dead penguins lying around on the ground, the island littered with dead penguins.
So "Lo How A Rose" is back in, right? I'm confused.
god must be atheistMarch 11, 2022 at 06:28#6654580 likes
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff thanks for finding out what is happening with Banno.
As to the community, you're right, the philosophers are a big family with all the accoutrements of such a thing, including diversity, animosity, accord, harmony, screwing, loyalty, betrayal, abuse, love, support and moral guidance.
Reply to Noble Dust One of my favorite hymn. The tune for Lo how a rose is blooming was written by Michael Praetorius in 1599 for a slightly older lyric. It's a Marian advent hymn. Some protestant churches do little with advent, and they aren't all that hot on Marian hymns, And then, as every school boy knows, Catholics can't sing. Lutherans, Catholics, and Episcopalians are more likely to observe the liturgical year than Baptists, Methodists, Assemblies of God, et al.
So this 16th century hymn has never had the opportunity to get run into the ground by Muzak, radio, television, streaming, etc. It doesn't have the melodic triumphalism of Joy to the World or Adeste Fideles and like carols. O Come Emmanuel, another very old advent hymn, has also not been played to death.
It seems to me that Praetorius was Lutheran, and he wrote it for a German text "Es ist ein Ros entsprungen".
I was just making shoutbox jokes, but yes, Lo How a Rose is one of my favorites too. There's an absurdly slow version, I think performed by either the Robert Shaw Chorale or the Dale Warland Singers, but I can't find it on youtube (it used to be there). I love the hymn regardless, but the slow version was hypnotic.
There's a whole load of other favorites I grew up with... "I Saw Three Ships", "Jesus Christ The Apple Tree", "Lullay My Liking"...
god must be atheistMarch 11, 2022 at 07:50#6654760 likes
I decided to reinstall Windows 10, and while it was not too difficult, I find now that the browser and other screens look FUGLY. I can't readjust to how they were before. I can't live with this much ugliness. Everything appears neon-ey, childish, in-your-face and attention-grabbing... I already have a problem allotting and focusing my attention to the things I wish to apply it to. Now this frikkin' bullshit.
god must be atheistMarch 11, 2022 at 09:12#6654880 likes
I fixed Fugly Findows. I had installed a version of desktop display that had been designed for the visually impaired. Installed the dark version of display that is for people with a vision, and now it's very good.
What goes round and comes round? Well, a soccer ball, of course. Or a water melon. Or a bowling ball.
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 11, 2022 at 12:44#6655780 likes
Thanks for finding out what is happening with Banno.
Anytime my friend. Anytime. :flower:
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 11, 2022 at 12:46#6655810 likes
@Hanover
Are you kidding me with these on line dating platforms being legit?
It is full of guys wanting one thing.... good lord....and I am PAYING for it? :roll:
The only relief for tired doves is the same as the relief for tired Christmas carols: They must undergo a 25 to 50 year hiatus. Then, when they are allowed back in, everyone will think they are just great.
I never liked hunting all that much, but dove hunting was the best of the bunch. Can't start shooting till noon (dawn for ducks). Nice fall weather (sleety winter for ducks). Easy access across farmer's fields (wading waist deep through cold, rough water for ducks.) Taste good (dry, tough, and gamy for wild ducks.) Just give New Yorkers (or Parisians) shotguns and let them have at it.
Guys on dating apps wanting sex? I am shocked. Shocked!!!
Not sure exactly why this came to mind. Maybe your and my shared history.
Back in the mid 1970s, I lived in Cambridge Mass. There was an alternative newspaper called "The Phoenix." Good paper. Good writing. Good restaurant reviews. Really good personal adds. Talk about shocking for a naive small town boy. One Christmas I used the personals as wrapping paper for presents to my family back in southern Virginia. The wrapping was more popular than the gifts. At least those adds didn't try to hide motivations.
If you like piña coladas
And gettin' caught naked in the rain with a butt plug
If you're not into missionary
If you have less than half a brain and big boobs
If you like havin' sex at midnight
In the dunes with duck tape
Then I'm the sex slave you've looked for
Write to me and dominate
on line dating platforms being legit?
It is full of guys wanting one thing
Come to think of it... in effect, those guys who take you expensive restaurants, talk about opera and watch the ballet with you, and root for your kids' hockey team, quote Confucius and Goethe in their original Sanskrit, and say long and meaningful grace at dinner, are also wanting one thing. Essentially.
Fortunately for her, neither Goethe nor Confucius wrote in Sanskrit, so that's one less thing for her to worry about while that roaming hand is on Tiff's thigh. On the other hand, one wants to see some sign of erotic interest -- otherwise, sign up for college classes via video.
god must be atheistMarch 12, 2022 at 12:32#6659790 likes
I like this as alternative sex replacement therapy. Other therapies to replace sex in your life may include, but not necessarily and the list is not comprehensive:
- pondering whether there is a God
- thinking if there is free will or not
- what is consciousness and does it have our bodies, or our bodies have it?
- what is the meaning of life
- what is the definition of life
- what is a good way to live a life
- twenty years to life with no parole
- do we all see green as green
- who created the world and what on earth were they thinking
- do things cause things, or are there spontaneously uncaused things happening?
"Mystical Hasidic Judaism as well as other segments of Judaism believe that there exist thirty-six righteous people whose role in life is to justify the purpose of humanity in the eyes of God. Jewish tradition holds that their identities are unknown to each other and that, if one of them comes to a realization of their true purpose, they would never admit it.'
I reached out to Banno and he and his lovely wife, both who are very dear to me, and they are doing well. Banno gave me permission to say that he is doing good just taking a break.
Are you kidding me with these on line dating platforms being legit?
It is full of guys wanting one thing.... good lord....and I am PAYING for it? :roll:
They don't just want one thing, but there is one thing they all do want. That's not the problem because you want that to. The problem is that you don't want what they want from them.
They're playing the quantity game. You're playing the quality game. Eventually there will be a match. They'll be like "finally someone responded" and you'll be like "finally someone who has a job. "
Reply to frank Are there a corresponding 36 dickheads that fuck everything up and do they engage in an end of times no holds barred slugfest with the 36 righteous fuckers for the keys to the universe?
If I was king of kings, that's how I'd arrange the world. In fact, since that suggestion is so clever, it's likely I'm one of the secret holy 36.
Given how much those Kabalaists use numerology, it probably should be 18 to the 18th power = 3.93464080753e+22. Given that it is estimated that about 100 billion (1 x 10+11) people have ever lived, there's room for plenty more of those guys.
I've been watching bits of 2010's The Thing, which is about horizontal gene transfer, or gene transfer between different species instead of parent to child (vertical gene transfer).
HGT happens in the components of lichen (a fungus and alga or cyanobacterium.). That means a fungus may end up with some of the genes of an alga (the two being bound by mutualism, commensalism, or parasitism, depending on the species of lichen).
Plus, lichen have survived for 34 days under Martian conditions in the Mars Simulation Laboratory maintained by the German Aerospace Center.
Reply to T Clark I just figured something out that is really weird.
There are 203 cardinals. If you subtract 18 from that (the Hebrew number which represents life), you come up with 185. The prime number breakdown of 185 is 5 × 17. If you add 5 + 7, you get 22, which is 11x2, which If added equals 13. Thirteen is the unluckiest of numbers.
This is spooky.
god must be atheistMarch 13, 2022 at 17:38#6664250 likes
Take the definite integral of Sin(x^sin(x)) between .4 and Pi. Then subtract the possibly correct number of hydrogen atoms in the unknown universe. Given that number, divide it by itself, multiply it by 4, add 9, both 4 and 9 being squares of prime numbers, and you get the same result: 13!!!! Fucking amazing.
god must be atheistMarch 13, 2022 at 17:47#6664320 likes
What do you call a girl who has sex with a mushroom? Same punchline.
Let's define a new property, we'll call it the offensive stupidity ratio, OS. We'll also define two properties O1 - the extent that a joke is offensive because it is socially unacceptable, and O2 - the extent that a joke is offensive because it is stupid. Both O1 and O2 are measured on scales between 0 and 10. OS = O2/O1, rounded to the next highest integer. Note that OS is undefined for jokes that are not at all offensive because they are socially unacceptable, e.g. anything from Readers Digest. Typically, any joke with an OS greater than 1 would be considered "Lame."
For the joke you provided, we will calculate the OS:
I assumed it was at his request. GT was one of those posters who forced me to think twice about what I was sure of and whether my arguments were good enough. He also helped me learn, again, that some fights aren't worth the trouble. I don't mean this ironically.
So I guess Garrett Travers has ended his relationship with the forum.
I found from his arguments that he carried lines of reasoning to a point, correctly; and he stopped there and it was impossible to move him onto following a still proper continuation of the same line. It was quite annoying how he thought a lot like me, but was adamant in defending the simpler, wrong versions of the same thing that I believe in.
I don't think he was intellectually limited. I think he was emotionally too committed.
So, a user whose account was deleted would have "Deleted User" as name on OP in a thread. Then, succeeding posts in the thread would still have the actual username, it's clickable, but it would just direct you back to the OP with the "Deleted User".
god must be atheistMarch 13, 2022 at 20:50#6665120 likes
May I ask why a forum member would request an account to be deleted?
I mean, why not just stop logging in to the forum?
I see the attraction. If one were to decide participation here was bad for oneself, removing ease in responding to comments would help in following through on such a decision.
I see the attraction. If one were to decide participation here was bad for oneself, removing ease in responding to comments would help in following through on such a decision.
Yeah, I can see this happening. If one is a fervent poster like GT was, that's a way to go.
So I guess Garrett Travers has ended his relationship with the forum.
Any idea what happened? I enjoyed his energetic contributions. His level of commitment was impressive, even when I didn't share those commitments. I did wonder if he was going to burn out.
Any idea what happened? I enjoyed his energetic contributions. His level of commitment was impressive, even when I didn't share those commitments. I did wonder if he was going to burn out.
The flame that burns Twice as bright burns half as long
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? Tao Te Ching
I think Mr. Ching took some honorarium for every wise statement he gifted mankind with. Therefore it must be that it was the grateful posterity of his heritage in heart of his followers that gave him his cash-register sounding name.
GT was a feisty guy. He probably wanted to make a point.
Back in the da we discovered a forum law: "The drama of the exit is positively correlated to the speediness of the return", or something like that. So probably he will be back.
I don't think he was intellectually limited.
— god must be atheist
He seemed like a smart guy.
Seemed. Indeed. But he didn't go further than telling memories are just integrated in brains, consciousness is material (hence his thread about the unequivocal triumph of neuroscience), and links to dubious articles, some of which are interesting. I tried starting an understanding in the way he wanted, but he didn't further the invitation. He was a depressed Christian once. Maybe that's something to consider. Ah yes. And evidence. It was asked for many times.
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 14, 2022 at 21:29#6670790 likes
How?
How is it possible that the very two people who saved Cosmic Wankers life do not speak to him because of his behavior?
After answering that, which seems pretty complex but simple, right?
Tell me WHY the fuck I am crying unable to stop.
I am sooo done with this...
I can't get his voice out of my head just ruminating all the horrible things he said, how they cut me and my youngest who Cosmic Wanker now refers to us as "we" or "you two" and .....I am supposed to sit in mediation with him? Isn't there an easier way out?
Maybe I should have just walked out and whatever came my way would be enough?
Damn I DESPISE showing weakness to him like he can hear me crying now ...I was outside but I am getting sunburn. I just need to make it through this weak momeent..
The Symposium: Short Stories.
Glad to see this is now open for new comments or threads, thanks @jamalrob
To take my mind off or on reality, I started wondering about how some people cope with crises or challenging situations by writing. Then I thought of this place and all the wonderful authors who seem to be AWOL. Have you escaped into your stories?
I'm not sure, yet, how short stories can be posted as new discussion threads.
However, I'm sure that someone will come along soon and post one just to show how easy it is.
Please :pray:
I'm not sure, yet, how short stories can be posted as new discussion threads.
Now I do. Thanks to @jamalrob:
Go to the Short Stories and click on Start a New Discussion, or click Start a New Discussion and select the category Short Stories from the drop-down box. Just the same as any other new discussion.
Reply to Amity Whoever is reading this thread will see the category pre-selected when they click on the big "Start a New Discussion" button. There's no mystery.
Or did I? I'm thinking ... you know how the Italians, and their servile bootlickers, will aggressively attack anyone who claims to be making spaghetti carbonara but uses cream, or bacon instead of guanciale, or parmigiano reggiano instead of pecorino Romano, etc.
Could the same apply to the American classic, the grilled cheese sandwich? I made mine without slathering the outer surfaces with butter (trying to stay relatively healthy), using non-white bread, and without a big pickle or ketchup on the side. Does it count?
Oddly, the grilled cheese sandwich didn't exist in Britain until the early 2000s. Before that we only had "cheese on toast", and then toastie machines appeared in the 1980s. Nobody knew you could just fry the damn thing in a pan. It was my Canadian girlfriend who showed me the way, when I was in my thirties.
Before that we only had "cheese on toast", and then toastie machines appeared in the 1980s.Nobody knew you could just fry the damn thing in a pan. It was my Canadian girlfriend who showed me the way, when I was in my thirties.
You gotta be kidding me.
Been around since time immemorial; the Ancient MacDonald Clan of Scotland claim to be the first.
But I think they stole the idea from a visiting Italian dignitary, under torture.
His bare bum held close against the open fire also gave rise to the pattern/colour of their traditional tartan.
Talking about the pesky Italians; their clans and odd ways of thinking.
From: https://philosokitchen.com/mozzarella-in-carrozza-traditional/
The origin of Mozzarella in Carrozza (Mozzarella in a Carriage) is humble. This recipe came from the need to re-use the old mozzarellas and stale bread.
The legend tells the name derives from the shape of the sandwich: originally the bread slices where rounded, similar to the wheels of a coach.
The first news of Mozzarella in Carrozza appears since the XIX Century, but probably the origin is older.
This recipe is typical of Neapolitan cuisine, but two popular variations belong to the Roman and Venetian tradition.
So, did you stay long enough with your skilled Canadian girlfriend to discover her ancestry?
And damn those Scots who sailed the seas to America and sold their very souls... :naughty:
Now, the world suffers and Russia is left bereft as the McDonalds lift their Golden Arches and flee.
Now, the world suffers and Russia is left bereft as the McDonalds take their Golden Arches and flee.
I confess I didn't realize people actually positively loved the food they sell there. I thought it was just for convenience when you want something hot, quick, and cheap. Then I saw the long queues the other day and thought, "oh".
Wow. Have you traced your family history or that of the clans?
So much inter-clan warfare. Not so much about the fried cheese sandwich but of land and names.
I know a little about the battles between MacDonalds and the Campbells. The former being mine, as far as I can tell; the latter being that of a male friend. A long time ago.
But now I learn this:
There is an ancient Gaelic adage known throughout Scotland which states:
"MacDonald is the heather, MacGregor is the rock".
To decipher the above, one must remember that most of the original MacDonalds and MacGregors were of the same racial stock on the male side, that is, they were descendants of the Irish Dalriadic kings, namely Colla Uais and his family. So the ancient Gaelic claim that MacGregors date further back than the MacDonalds must refer to the matriarchal (the female) side, which by all accounts is of Pictic origin.
Well, I didn't know that.
But if you hail from the McGregors...well done you, child of the mist.
You will know the stories? Perhaps not.
The most famous character: Rob Roy MacGregor of the late 17th and early 18th centuries. The Clan is also known to have been among the first families of Scotland to begin playing the bagpipes in the early 17th century.
The MacGregor story is one of dogged survival and endurance in appalling conditions. History calls them the Children of the Mist. For nearly two centuries Clan MacGregor was a victim of Proscription. This meant that male MacGregors could not use their surname, own property or even, in the worst times, possess a knife. They were legally hunted down and tortured or beheaded, often by Campbells. Despite such catastrophic fortune, the MacGregor name survived, and today they flourish.
But if you hail from the McGregors...well done you, child of the mist.
A lowly sheep stealer and proud of it!
But no, I don't regard the history of clan warfare and squabbling with any affection or sense of belonging. And when the chiefs finally modernized they just took the money and fucked over their regular clan members. It's a nasty history, but they did leave behind some nice castles.
Could the same apply to the American classic, the grilled cheese sandwich? I made mine without slathering the outer surfaces with butter (trying to stay relatively healthy), using non-white bread, and without a big pickle or ketchup on the side. Does it count?
Tomato soup goes with the grilled cheese sandwich and you are supposed to dip it in there. I've not eaten it with ketchup. I suppose ketchup is just a thicker form of tomato soup, but it's cold and there is something important about the dipping soup being hot.
I don't slather the surface with butter because it tears the bread. I put the butter in the pan and melt it and then allow the bread to soak it in while it cooks. You need to smash the cheese sandwich into the pan with your flipper thing in order to properly flatten it and melt the cheese.
If you're making a bunch of them, you should expect to burn a few here and there while you go to feed the cat or run to the mailbox. It's up to you whether to eat the burned ones. They burn really quick.
I put jalapenos in mine, but not just a couple. You want to make it difficult to eat. I'm not sure why, but that's how I've always done it.
Chips make a good side for this meal, but it's important for the Brits to know that chips are crisps and not fries. If you make fries, you've spent far too much time on this meal and your sandwiches are going to be burnt to hell, much like the charcoal muffin you took a picture of above.
Could the same apply to the American classic, the grilled cheese sandwich? I made mine without slathering the outer surfaces with butter (trying to stay relatively healthy), using non-white bread, and without a big pickle or ketchup on the side. Does it count?
While lots of butter on white bread is important, the most important, the only truly indispensable feature is the cheese - it must be American cheese. Velveeta is ok. Pickle is not needed. Ketchup is sacrilege. On the other hand, my wife grew up eating them with maple syrup, which, while also sacrilege, is at least interesting.
Maybe the ketchup thing was a Canadian idiosyncrasy. As for maple syrup, I was dismayed to see the Calgarians pouring it on bacon.
I'm sure there is a good historical reason for that. If they were in psychoanalysis doing free association, and if the analyst said "maple syrup" most people, and all Canadians, would say "pancakes." In Canadia, it is against the law to eat pancakes without bacon. And, no, I don't mean so-called "Canadian bacon." In the course of eating pancakes with maple syrup, it is impossible to prevent maple syrup from getting on everything. And since it is perfectly legal to eat bacon without pancakes, maple syrup on bacon is a natural consequence.
If you need any more help understanding the cuisine of the western hemisphere, please don't hesitate to let me know. Don't listen to anything @Hanover says about it though. The American south is not considered to be part of our hemisphere. The south has been given its own semisphere - the Dixonian, sometimes called the Crackerian.
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 16, 2022 at 14:29#6678930 likes
If you make fries, you've spent far too much time on this meal and your sandwiches are going to be burnt to hell, much like the charcoal muffin you took a picture of above.
:lol: :rofl: :lol: Get outta the kitchen and tell the fire department that it is just ANOTHER false alarm.
Oh wait......let me go tell them...... :heart:
The south has been given its own semisphere - the Dixonian, sometimes called the Crackerian.
We were told about Texas and the Dixie line when looking for an apartment this past November. It is still "a" thing over there.
Here in AZ we are just trying to define that southern boarder of the Nation!
Make grilled cheese with whatever bread and cheese you have on hand; my favorite is cheddar. Butter is pretty necessary, and if you’re trying to be healthy I’d say just skip the whole project.
Incidentally, this morning I had an egg and sharp white cheddar sandwich on a NY pumpernickel bagel with ketchup. Ketchup on breakfast sandwiches are thing here, but it never appealed to me. I am a sauce man, though, so I went for it. It’s good!
Here in AZ we are just trying to define that southern boarder of the Nation!
In the Dixonian semisphere, the northern border of the nation is considered the Mason-Dixon Line. Since the line only goes to the western end of Pennsylvania, to the west of that the border is the border of the slave territories designated in the Compromise of 1850. Here's a link to a map:
There was a land dispute between the Penn family of Pennsylvania, and the Calvert family of Maryland, over the border between the two (British at the time) colonies. In 1763, the two families commissioned Englishmen, Charles Mason and Jeremiah Dixon, to do a survey to solve their 80 year, three-generation-long property dispute. Both families had been deeded land by British kings but the deeds overlapped. Mason and Dixon were hired to settle the dispute once and for all.
Mason was an astronomer and Dixon was a surveyor and they used celestial measurements to determine an accurate 233 mile-long boundary between Pennsylvania and Maryland, as well as an 83 mile-long boundary between Maryland and Delaware. It took them four, almost five years to accomplish this task and Charles Mason kept a hand-written manuscript journal that now rests in the National Archives in Washington D. C.
Hey, @Wayfarer. See. I did the quote thing like you showed me.
Edit: I just noticed, Delaware, where I grew up, is north of the M-D Line but is included in the slave territories.
Maybe the ketchup thing was a Canadian idiosyncrasy. As for maple syrup, I was dismayed to see the Calgarians pouring it on bacon.
Most breakfast pork products (bacon, sausage, and those fun fingerling things) at my grocery store are available in maple flavored. I always assumed pigs were fattened on syrup.
Humanely fattened pigs are put into a coma and fed with an IV drip of artificially flavored high fructose corn syrup until they reach the desired state of plumpness. Their virginal guts are taken out and straight-away chopped into breakfast sausage lengths and packaged up for you. Terminally fatty pig livers are squeezed directly into braunschweiger.
On the other hand, cruelly fattened pigs have to actually walk around and compete for calories in the hog trough. The competition leaves the pigs bitter and resentful, which gives them a nice flavor.
Meanwhile, the French have girdled their geese and stuck funnels down their throats through which corn mash is augured into their crops. When their livers are totally clogged, it's off with their heads and their livers go into expensive paté.
Milk? Cows are forced into unwanted pregnancies year after year and then after their excruciating delivery their secretions are forcibly and mechanically sucked out of their mammillary glands--all without permission. All that trauma gives the cows a voracious appetite and they madly run into the fields and chew up all the grass.
Vegans think they escape all that.
Strawberries are cruelly forced to grow in filthy dirt, have their runners snipped off, are regularly sprayed with toxic fluids, and then their delicate fruits are ripped off the plant, again and again. Kale is treated even more harshly.
The competition leaves the pigs bitter and resentful, which gives them a nice flavor.
Should one day you be cooked slowly on the rotisserie and served as a main course, what sorts of an aftertaste do you expect you'll leave with the diner? Will it be smokey hints of wild adventure, salty tearful remorse and sadness, or just the bland vanillaness of someone who has spent his time in too many DMV lines?
My plan is to eat thousands of toothpicks before my demise so that I will present as a scrawny perch with far too many small splintery bones to truly enjoy.
What I don’t understand at all, on the other hand, are patties. Why do they exist?
This will shock you, but sausage does not naturally come in little cylindrical packages. Inside those packages is ground meat mixed with spices and other things. You have to actually push that ground meet into little condoms made of animal intestines or cellulose. Anyway - people who don't want to stuff the meat into casings eat it in various ways - meatballs, ground meat in sauces, pizza topping, and, as you have noted, patties.
Reply to Hanover I wish I could say "wild adventure with notes of erudition and good sense" but it will probably be more like the bland flavor of midwestern hot dish. No tears, no artificial vanilla flavors.
You have to actually push that ground meet into little condoms made of animal intestines
Love sausage but the high speed industrial stuffing of sausages is disgusting. Anyway, we have known for a long time that laws and sausage should not be made in the sight of the nosey and judgmental public.
What I’m trying to say is I have trouble trusting people who choose patties over links.
Advantages of links over patties:
You can use them like little swords.
The crunch of the casing is the best part.
You can put them in your nose to make little kids laugh.
Advantages of patties over links:
Won't roll off your plate.
If someone says "Wouldn't you like to put your sausage in that bun, get it? Get it?" you can say "But my sausage is a patty. It won't fit in that bun."
It's what's in the refrigerator. Shut up and eat it.
What I’m trying to say is I have trouble trusting people who choose patties over links.
When I was in high school, there was this old country store that was still around long after the suburbs crept in. They sold sausage biscuits that everyone claimed were the most amazing things ever made. Teachers would let you skip class if you promised to return with a biscuit for them.
At what point does a tub of snouts, tails, and other fiddly bits that could be dog food become (instead) Ding an sausage?
You're thinking of head cheese, scrapple, or haggis. Scrapple is wonderful. I've never had head cheese or haggis. Sausage is made with meat, spices, and various non-snout additives.
Sausage is made with meat, spices, and various non-snout additives.
Non-snout or not, head cheese, a disgusting Ding an sich.
It looks exactly like a case of food poisoning. I ate some sort of jellied meat product once-and-never-again, from a Polish deli and became exceedingly ill. Ptomaine preserved in aspic. More disgusting than chitterlings.
It's just chopped meat, vegetables, and mustard seeds in aspic. Less food poisony than regular minced (ground) meat. It looks like kholodets, which is popular in Russia and Ukraine.
Reply to jamalrob Maybe the Ukrainians could weaponize it against the Russians. It isn't the contents, it's the grubby fingers, warm temperatures, and air born bacteria that make it fatal.
Reply to Bitter Crank Nothing compares to a lovely blood and tongue sandwich with spicy mustard, but head cheese is still very good. My college roommates would eat anything that fell within the realm of "normal" North American food, regardless of whose food it actually was. I learned very quickly that they were also exceedingly squeamish. I am not, and ate very well, my food stores safe from thieves. A bowl of hot noodles and broth with 3 semi cooked eggs, a can of sardines thrown on top and splashed with hot sauce is also exceedingly satisfying. And safe from food thieves.
Maybe the Ukrainians could weaponize it against the Russians. It isn't the contents, it's the grubby fingers, warm temperatures, and air born bacteria that make it fatal.
A good immune system is one that is challenged!
I have always wanted to try Lizard on a stick.
god must be atheistMarch 17, 2022 at 08:40#6682580 likes
You're right. If the story was real it would be called reality.
And you reach should always extend your overbite.
god must be atheistMarch 17, 2022 at 11:30#6683050 likes
kholodets are kalled Kocsonya in Hungarian. All but one Hungarians love it.
if you think the picture of Kholdets shows something vile, you should see the fish Kocsonya. (Pronounced exactly as you see it. Even if it kills you.) It usually looks back at you with its own two eyes.
It usually looks back at you with its own two eyes.
I've never really understood the aversion to seeing fish eyes on the plate. Something to do with an association of eyes with faces, maybe.
The face of the fish:Do fish have faces? In one sense, the question is trivial. A 10-year-old would likely answer yes: after all, a fish has eyes, a mouth and what can pass as a snout. It seems to have all the essentials of a face. But there are far-reaching consequences to this answer, and it needs to be considered carefully. Whether we perceive an animal to have what the existential philosopher Emmanuel Levinas in 1961 called ‘the face of the Other’ is crucial in determining the moral status we grant it. By ‘face’, Levinas meant a ‘living presence’, that is, a kind of expression of personhood. Faces and morality, it seems, are intimately bound up with one another.
So if the hardware is the body, the operating system is a neurological configuration (like for all tetrapods or something), the AI is "running" in a particular species, and an individual is a particular case of it, then, then, what was the question?
Reply to jamalrob Re: fish are nothing like us... "Your Inner Fish: A Journey into the 3.5-Billion-Year History of the Human Body" by Neil Shubin is a pretty good read. One of the interesting features of humans is that our inner ears evolved from posterior sections of the fish jaw. Then there are our vestigial gills, and our body plan (front back, left right, back, front, etc) is similar.
I suppose humor doesn’t always translate on the web.
@Tom Storm is an acetic hermit living on Ayers rock, eating 900 calories a day, and shitting rabbit pellets. Of course he has power and a satellite dish so he can participate in the forum.
Very close, but I do eat Vegemite so the poo is more like Koala's.
Koala feces... It says that the ridges on the fecal matter are caused by the Koala's wrinkled sphincter. So, wrinkled sphincter, Vegemite. Ayres rock. It all fits together,
Tom pulled on the package, wondering as he often did why mere plastic required so much force to open. It wasn't infrequent that his food would go flying across the room when his steady straining would finally give way to an explosion of bits which he'd then have to sweep up and sort through. .
Tim stared out the window as a cloud drifted across the moon. He washed a few nuggets that had become ensnared in dust bunnies under the cabinet.
To get back to the OP topic, I've recently got back into fancy coffee. Trying to perfect my Aeropress brewing technique. Today was a success, although fresh beans certainly help.
It's been a couple of hours now and I feel bad for attacking your coffee hipster bollocks.
— jamalrob
Your sensitivity is inspiring. I'm thinking about feeling bad about something I said once.
I think you guys should take inspiration from the Curious Case of Quick Cuddly Counselling, courtesy of the Mile High Club. Well, @jamalrob you did say you wanted to leave Moscow...
Reply to Tom StormReply to frank There is a difference between people who "just eat food" and those who are really "into food". The same goes for people who "just wear clothing" and people who are devoted to fashion. Some people live in a space with bare walls; some people decorate their walls intensively.
I tend toward plain food, utilitarian clothes, and bare walls.
Did y'all know that March 14 was national steak and blow job day?
Yep. It's actually March 15th but yeah, I was actually excited about it this year, as it was the original court date with Cosmic Wanker and a female judge.
Buhahahaha the sweet irony that could have been but no, I want to remain reasonable, as long as legally necessary.
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 18, 2022 at 18:13#6689710 likes
There is a difference between people who "just eat food" and those who are really "into food". The same goes for people who "just wear clothing" and people who are devoted to fashion. Some people live in a space with bare walls; some people decorate their walls intensively.
I tend toward plain food, utilitarian clothes, and bare walls.
My son is a former bartender, former butcher, and a great cook. He and his girlfriend are in San Francisco this week and they went to the French Laundry - the schmanciest of the fancy-schmancy restaurants. He doesn't have a lot of money, but he saves up and goes nice places. $350/each before drinks and tip.
As for me, just give me some chicken pahm and linguini with a glass of decent red wine and I'm happy.
god must be atheistMarch 18, 2022 at 19:52#6690140 likes
The forums had had a good run a little while ago. In other forums even the strictly religious topics were palatable for the reading.
But that's now all topsy-turvy gone haywire. A lot of people who are incapable of conceptualizing thoughts and are illogical thinkers opened their big mouths. The forums are replete with them, and there is no joy in fighting a Quixotic battle. This "shoutbox" has been spared so far, although it has lost a lot of the humour it once had. I shan't name names, that would be unfair.
It is incredibly hard to argue with a fool. In fact, there is a modern-age saying, "never argue with a fool for your audience may not be able to discern the difference."
Well, maybe it's the war. Or the too slow recovery from Covid. I dunno.
It is incredibly hard to argue with a fool. In fact, there is a modern-age saying, "never argue with a fool for your audience may not be able to discern the difference."
I nominate this as the least generous and least self-aware post of the year.
My pretentiousness is in the superiority complex I have in my displaying my ordinariousness. It allows me to live well beneath my means without having to spend effort appearing sophisticated yet I can silently know I'm better than everyone else.
"I need a loan", was his lame lament,
so a little was lent for his low-rate rent.
Soon aught was left of the loan they sent
but a layer of lint on the bare cement.
Does anyone here sleep in a sleeping hat? I've been thinking about adding one to my sleep attire, but I wanted feedback before I made the plunge. I flap and spin a bit (much like a caught fish) when I sleep, and I'm wondering if the material might become twisted and accidently tighten and snap my neck like a dried twig.
My insufferably pretentious coffee is unusually exquisite this fine morning. Perfect grind setting. Perfect brew time. Perfect water to coffee ratio. Sublime.
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 19, 2022 at 15:03#6694510 likes
My insufferably pretentious coffee is unusually exquisite this fine morning. Perfect grind setting. Perfect brew time. Perfect water to coffee ratio. Sublime.
Are you keeping your nuts fresh in the freezer before grinding?
So important :flower:
My insufferably pretentious coffee is unusually exquisite this fine morning. Perfect grind setting. Perfect brew time. Perfect water to coffee ratio. Sublime.
Bologna. We know you're having your coffee, extra sugar, extra cream in the styrofoam cup from Dunkies like you do every morning. We got this picture of you waiting outside a Little Caesars for you Hot'n Ready pizza.
I don't; I heard you're not supposed to do that. :chin:
Come on now, I ground frozen nuts for YEARS, daily because Cosmic Wanker wanted them ground daily. Pffffffffffffttt :shade:
ArguingWAristotleTiffMarch 19, 2022 at 17:40#6694820 likes
Can I just say that my inidans taught me something from hitting the EDM concerts that tells me I missed something that this next generation was already embracing world wide, while we have been making plans and going to war or bringing war to another town, they were procuring worldwide love.
It started with making pony bead bracelets for the shows and finding out what they were doing with them.
When at a concert, festival, gathering and you see another with pony bead bracelets on, you can ask for a PLUR Peace Love Unity Respect handoff.
You put your hand up to another as though you are going to ^5 (high five) but palm to palm, lacing your fingers with the other person, exchanging the bracelets without losing touch with the other, usually stranger. Such a beautiful way to meet a stranger and what a concept the kids had developed.
It's kind of like trading country pins at the Olympics, those who are familiar but on a completely different level.
I have soo much faith in this next generation. PLUR :flower:
I made breakfast burritos on the grill this morning. Placed flour tortillas on a hot grill with some grated cheddar on top while at the same time frying some scrambled eggs. Once the cheddar had melted the tortillas were a beautiful golden brown on the underside and it was time to plate them, adding the scramble on top and some hot Bobby Salizar green salsa. Admittedly a simple concoction but tasty. My one regret is how the salsa juice ran down my arms as I ate the things.
Reply to praxis I ate shredded wheat--for the fiber, certainly not for the flavor.
Reply to Noble Dust I have bought the very best brewed coffee available and it was delicious. I have bought the very best beans available, ground or not, and they made delicious coffee. However, Serious question:
Do we drink coffee to obtain exceptional flavor or do we drink coffee to obtain sufficient caffeine? I suspect it is more the latter and less the former. Excellent flavor is gravy, but if we could get equally excellent coffee flavor without caffeine from brewed GMO peanuts, would we continue drinking it?
Caffeine has been a valuable adjunct to capitalism since the get go. Before tea and coffee, workers drank beer during the day. Beer tends to have a deleterious effect on workers, however, dulling the edge to diligently work extra hard, or at least go through the motions till the whistle blows. Caffeine winds up the worker and can keep him/her wound up for many hours, but not so wound up that the worker can't crash long enough to start the whole thing over again and again.
For sufficient caffeine, day-old stale Maxwell House coffee will do the trick. And it's cheap. Excellent coffee can turn into a fairly pricy habit.
Reply to frank Finns are significantly happier than North Americans. How much does it cost to move to Finland and share in their inordinate happiness? Does one have to take a number to get in? For some reason, Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands Iceland, and some others were not assigned a score. Are these the hell-holes that enable Finland to be so happy?
Serious answer: we of course drink it for the caffeine. But some caffeine-adverse people like my mother still drink decaf on the daily.
Personally I’ve gone back and forth over the years between fancy coffee and cheap coffee. I’m not sure of the reason, other than that I tend to dip in and out of hobbies without much apparent rhyme or reason (philosophy, for instance. Couldn’t give a rats ass at the moment). These days I’ve just been overcome by an obsession to brew the best cup possible. I like the challenge and the focus on process.
As to flavor, I think really expertly made coffee from great beans really does taste great. Not bitter, mineral-driven, refreshing. Cheap coffee if fresh will do the trick, but if it’s been sitting in a pot for a long time (as often happens in corner stores here in NY), it has a gasoline quality that’s pretty revolting. I guess I’ve had too much of that recently.
For some reason, Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands Iceland, and some others were not assigned a score. Are these the hell-holes that enable Finland to be so happy?
Reply to Noble Dust Honey wheat bread and a white cheddar that I had to grate. . It's all we had. What saved it was the extra thick bacon (like 1/4") and I toasted the bread in butter on the griddle. The Slap Ya Mama seasoning put it over the top. Oh, and the eggs were fresh from the coop outside.
I didn't think Clark was a Massachusettsian name either. You learn something new...
Btw, why would I be waiting outside for my Hot 'n Ready when it's...hot and ready? I just run in there, threaten to pour my Dunken on them in Finnish, and I'm out the door.
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My nickname in middle school was Schwebe.
I went by I in middle school, but other people called me by my longer name. I used to think other people were talking to me when they said I, but they were just talking about themselves and naming themselves I too, probably after me, which is my other name.
It'd be cool if babies were born with language ability and gradually had to figure out pronoun use on their own.
You could raise a baby and not teach it pronouns and then cast it out into the world and see how it fared. You could then write a journal article about the consequences of pronoun deprivation. I would do that, but I'm all babied out.
Actually, that is what happens. Babies do figure things out by themselves, that is how they learn to communicate. It also works for multi language homes, the kids figure out who to speak each language to.
Kids are smart.
Quoting Hanover
How would the kid actually learn a language then? You would have to speak without any pronouns so that he could figure out how to do it.
Where's your imagination brah?
Kid comes out of the womb:
"Holy fuck that hurt! I'm scared as shit, what the hell is this place??! It was so warm and safe back in there, how the hell do I get back in??? I'm crying dammit, this is so embarrassing!"
"Jimmy, just so you know, everyone in the world goes by both 'I' and 'Me'."
"What the fuck???"
"Without that, you would not be in this situation."
Dreams where that happens always seems to trigger a sequence that forces me to wake up, grateful to be back.
So that can makes a debate about if we truly have a subconscious world in out mind that only sometimes we are aware of!
For me I reckon it's mostly when I'm on the verge of waking up. I don't know if that makes it less of a lucid dream or not.
So, were you aware that you were dreaming? I think that's the key.
Sort of; I've been reading about people's "Out of Body Experiences" and I thought I was having one of those, so that might have colored my "in dream" perception. :chin:
Quoting javi2541997
:up:
I'm having a hard time living with someone who is no longer in my life.
Thank you for your help :flower:
That light feels like it's burning my soul into ashes. :fire:
I just don't have it in me to endure anymore.
There may be various forms of lucid dreams, such as the hypopompic and hypnagogic ones. I have had one strange thing recently though. Since last autumn I have inflammation behind my right eye. It gives distortion if I shut the left one. However, what happens if I close my eyes is that not all of the time but frequently I see all kinds of visions mainly in the right one, in the including faces, scenery and all kinds of geometric shapes and symbols etc. Sometimes I can lie in bed watching it for long periods which is lucid dreaming. I am thinking that I would like to do drawings or paintings based on it and I am starting to think of my left eye as my outer eye and the right as the inner one.
Does having dreams that are as boring as my real life count as lucid dreaming? .
Depends on lucid you can remain during your boring waking life.
Good point. I guess if I'm never lucid, I can't possibly be having lucid dreams.
Or perhaps your dreams are your only lucid moments.
Or perhaps we should evaluate lucidity based on the Relative Lucidity (RL) where RL is the ratio of Dream Lucidity (DL) to Awake Lucidity (AL). RL= DL/AL.
If we do that, then I will score very high.
That’s fascinating. I wonder how the visions are being triggered, what the mechanics are. Is there any rhyme or reason to them, or anything you would potentially attribute to your subconscious, etc?
I sometimes see faces/creatures and hear voices as I’m falling asleep. Sometimes the face will make eye contact with me and the voice will be so real it will jerk me back to wakefulness. Can you be on the schizophrenic spectrum but only in the hypnogogic state? :groan: I don’t know what to make of it.
I have done some research on eyes and one of the mechanisms which is meant to be important is the phosphenes in the eyes. I have a friend who has multiple sclerosis mildly and apparently in that condition the phosphenes play a role. He does have some visionary experiences too. I am deleting the rest of the post which I have written here because it is too much of a philosophy discussion and is likely to get in the way of general discussion. But, I am starting a thread on lucid dreaming because it is probably an important area in psychology/philosophy.
Cool. :up:
My favorite oldest son bought me a ticket for the party but I am single and this party is comprised of the upper esculin of Scottsdale and I would really feel better not going alone.
Unless I can remember it through anamnesis, I think I've forgotten it. :joke:
Let's try this without pronouns and see what happens.
"Holy fuck hurt! 'm scared as shit, the hell is place??! was so warm and safe back in there, how the hell do get back in??? m crying dammit, is so embarrassing!"
"Jimmy, just so know, in the world goes by both and "
"What the fuck???"
The only thing that could make all of that become sensible language is the correct use of pronouns. Language users could possibly come up with their own words if non were supplied by their teacher/parents, but how would those people be able to communicate correct the ideas and concepts of every day life without using any pronouns?
The idea that there is such a thing as neutral/ non gender pronouns is horseshit and just as discriminatory as the pronouns that we all learned a kids.
Imagine seeing a person on the street with a big gun, and you only know how to speak gender neutral speak.
"They have a gun!!"
"Who?"
"Them over there", point towards the other side of the street where a hundred people are walking around.
"Which one?"
"They in the brown coat" Brown coats happen to be in fashion right now.
"Which one?"
"The one with the gun!!"
But i am still interested in am explanation of how the fuck a new born would have the capacity to put its feelings into words.
It was a joke, note a thought experiment. :shade:
I’d offer to escort you but I don’t golf, could not impress the upper esculin of skid row with my lackluster social grace, and live some five hundred miles away. Hope you have a good time though. :flower:
Ain't that the truth
Just for the record, esculin is "...a glucoside C15H16O9 from the inner bark of the horse chestnut (Aesculus hippocastaneum) and roots of the yellow jessamine (Gelsemium sempervirens) that absorbs ultraviolet rays..."
I think maybe the word you are looking for is "echelon," which is "...a level in an organization : a level of authority or responsibility..."
I read that this is how spell-check is built:
Companies like Google, who have remarkably intimate familiarity with what we type, "scrape" off our efforts to correct misspellings multiplied by billions. Eventually the program comes to understand that we always correct "hte" to "the". Ditto for zillions of other instances. Contrary to the obvious approach, Spellcheck does not read what we write and word-by-word consult a dictionary. How would a dictionary help it know that "esculin" should actually be echelon? After enough people have aimed for echelon, but typed esculin or echsculen, or something else, and corrected it enough times to ECHELON, will Spellcheck fix it properly.
Companies like Google are busy "scraping" all kinds of information from what we post on line, text, photos, drawings, music, porn, etc. Eventually, Amazon and Apple--listening to us through their always on "assistant" apps--will be able to tell what kind of sex we are having \ because it will have scraped so much information from porn. It will know from listening in that we are in position #19, and will not interrupt us with a telephone call until the screaming stops. Furthermore, central processors will experience a shiver of delight or disgust, depending on whether it is a gay or straight CPU.
I love words. "Echelon" is a really good one. It feels good to say - that "ech" feels a bit German. It sounds important. It's a bit technical so it makes you sound like you know something, even if you don't. I'm just defending it against the entropy of improper usage.
I'm sure someday it will go the way of "gantlet," a military punishment which has evolved into "gauntlet," which is, or once was, just a glove.
Rather than rising in echelon, gauntlet has gone the way of entropy.
I wasn't up on Gantlet vs. Gauntlet. Since you like the German sound of 'ECHelon, you will adore the German word for Gauntlet: I have thrown down the panzerhandschuh.
I actually copied and pasted “upper esculin” from Tiff’s post, because I’m such a poor speller and wasn’t confident in its spelling. Noticed the spell checkers disapproval with the red dots under the word but I liked how esculin sounded, oddly enough, so left it.
Sorry bout the entropy, Clark.
No, it's gantlet that has faded. Gauntlet has taken it's place.
Literally, that means tank hand shoe, which is similar to my favorite German word fausthandschuh, which, again literally means fist hand shoe. It actually means....try to guess before you look.
[hide="Reveal"]Mitten[/hide]
Don't apologize. It gives me a chance to show people I'm erudous...erudant...Me talk good.
Three little kittens, they lost their mittens
And they began to cry
"Oh, mother dear, we sadly fear
We've lost our mittens by"
"What! Lost your mittens? you naughty kittens
Then you shall have no pie"
"Meow, meow, meow, my"
The story goes on, but you can look it up to discover how it all turned out.
Quoting T Clark
Not so fast. German is older than WWII.
[i]Panzer[/I] is a German word that means "armour". It derives through the French word pancier, "breastplate", from Latin pantex, "belly". ... The dated German term is Panzerkampfwagen, "tank" or "armoured combat vehicle". The modern commonly used synonym is Kampfpanzer, or "battle panzer".
Gauntlet also means 'armor' or metal--wrist protection. When a knight threw down the gauntlet, what he did was take off the metal wrist band above the glove and throw it on the ground. If he was in a hurry, maybe he whipped off a glove and threw the whole thing on the ground--glove, gauntlet, and all. The challenged knight picked up the gauntlet (or maybe not), signaling acceptance of the challenge and the fight was on. One knight or the other would end up skewered, perhaps.
Maybe the knights used their gauntlets to hit the offending person when they ran the gantlet.
I used to be in the upper insulin of gophers but my handicap is too large now. Can't even remember the last time I had an albatross. :sad:
If I remember correctly when looking at ancient materials as a reference, knowing Baden the answer is certainly 'YES': ;)
I should have thought that the proper verbatim translation of original expression of the English word Tank for armoured vehicle in German is
Grabenschutzpanzerkraftwagen.
Graben has nothing to do with grabbing; it means to make a dent, a hole, a push-in.
So Grabenschutzpanzerkraftwagen (and not kampfwagen) means "poking shooting armour-plated strong vehicle". Or "Dent-or-penetration producing bullet- shooter armour-plated strong vehicle".
Legend has it that the Germans lost WWI because when the German tanks were coming, the English sentries cried, "tanks coming!" and the anti-tank weapons could be readied. While when the English tanks were coming, the German soldier on the lookout snapped into attention and shrieked, "Englische Grabenschutzpanzerkraftwagen kommen sofort jetzt schon!!" And by the time he reached the end of the sentence, the English tanks were on their necks.
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I'm glad you're back. I have felt like I needed to get away from the forum from time to time. Problem is, when I take a break, people miss me so much they beg me to come back. Can't disappoint my peeps.
Of course, he was Scottish, not Irish.
You are really something special praxis! Thank you for the offer to escort me. I have zero interest in golf myself but the party at The Birds Nest was 10k strong last night! Finally! We are able to have maskless concerts! Macklemore got a bit emotional talking about how many concerts were cancelled, how he was usually on tour half of the year. So, he said that he in no way was taking the concert we were at for granted. Such a beautiful environment! Such sexy people are drawn out to this event.
Where are earth on you located? 500 miles is a stretch for a last-minute escort, but it does offer up to where we might as a group all meet up. Vegas? Minnesota?
Ohhh hey..... @Hanover got a rockin ranch now! Maybe Atlanta?
Since my son was running the visuals, I got the best view in the house being up in a gated area where the rest of the lazer folks, mixing boards, the folks recording the concert.
It was amazing!
Okay, soon to be newly single, I have a question:
Is it wrong to have an escort to such an event?
A good friend here suggested that an escort is fine but it takes the guts out of it.
That made me feel weak.
Is it right? Is it wrong? And how as a single woman can I attend such an event, safely, on my own?
None of your Indians nearby to go with you?
Those of us with experience of the upper mescalin of society do not care to dance on Macademias nor watch Caddyscotts, thank you very much.
....
Well, my youngest is in Austin and I did live stream it for him for a few minutes, so we were all together in some way because it felt odd going to an event like his brothers without him. My eldest was working the event so once I got to him, I was good. His fiance and I wound up driving up together and there was more than one time in which I was grateful for her being with me.
I have no fear walking in downtown Chicago during the day by myself. I know what to do if I am mugged and I have had to use one method when I was leaving the grocery store and I could feel someone pacing me. I am always aware of my surroundings and make pacts on the train and plane with the people I am seated with and across the aisle, in the event of any riff raff that could start within a moving tube. Yes, I am that proactive person.
When I felt the dude pacing me in the parking lot, I made sure that I took my hands off the cart, stopped short and flipped around and asked VERY loudly, what time is it?? Adrenaline was HIGH and the guy stopped in his tracks and was like Sue.... it's me Jeff.... :rage:
A whole lot of profanity and me shoving his shoulder every time he came in for a hug to calm me down.
I said you bastard! You scared the shit out of me! He said scared the shit out of you? I said YES and he said YOU scared the shit out of me when you asked me what time it was!
It was a lesson I would like to have just kept in my pocket, but it worked, it freakin WORKED!
BTW Just typing this out has brought back an adrenaline rush :angry:
Someone told me before going that "Who knows you might meet a sugar daddy there?" :angry:
Let me make one thing clear, MONEY doesn't impress me. Full stop.
I am first to board so I go the middle of the shuttle and sit against the window, thinking it would be a full shuttle. If there was a "sugar daddy" that wanted to meet me, he failed miserably but recovered it at the sober thought he finally found. This very white, very bald man probably in his early 50's danced his way down the aisle after asking the driver to turn on Shakira, to which she obliged. He gets to where I am, and he is with a group of drunk folks clearly enjoying themselves and Jameson and Absolute who were sponsoring the show. He starts trying to dance like Shakira and then steps up on my seat and the one across the aisle and continues to get his groove on. I am looking at the driver watching this in the rear-view mirror, and I looked at him and I said dude be careful you don't get tossed off the shuttle. He steps down but keeps dancing and asks me to dance Shakira with him. To which I said you are doing a fine job. Finally, he settled down and his female friend was next to him on the window seat, and he starts the real talk. Like did you like the concert, who was going to wake up with a sunburn and to what alcohol.
Then he went up to the driver and told her to make sure she got me to my car safely, stumbled back and said she is going to take care of you. As he and the highly intoxicated group departed the shuttle, he said be careful getting to your car. I returned with be careful you aren't too drunk to drive. Flashed a smile and that was it.
Can you guess what the turn off was even as he got in his Maserati in the gravel parking lot?
My first thought was that very few can move their hips like Shakira and the thought of a drunken middle aged white guy attempting it is :vomit:
Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff
Bald Shakira.Doesn't bare thinking about.
Mr. Happy peeking out above the waistband of his sweatpants?
Was it the "Baby on Board" sticker on the rear bumper?
I used to have someone to go to concerts. These days, I would want to, but either too busy (I was a workaholic) or no one to go with. Get someone -- if you need to hire a person, do it.
:rofl: :sparkle:
Thanks for going into such detail about the problem. Maybe I neglected to turn on spookiness prevention this morning.
I did notice earlier that the site came up completely blank a couple of times. I thought it was my phone misbehaving. Is that what you experienced?
That's really bad for me. All I got is money. Nothing else. Just money, money, money, and nothing.
I am sorry I can't impress you with my dollars. Both of them.
At one point I had had three dollars, but met a woman who was a gold-digger. As soon as she got the dollar out of me, zinggg!!! she was gone like a rocketya with an escape velocity.
1. The Maserati. You expected a Lamborghini.
2. He was 4'5".
3.
4. He misspelled "you're" for "your" as he spake to you.
5. He asked others to take care of you, and tried to take credit for it. In my language we call asking a third party to do a favour to a second party without any involvement by the principal "he thrashes poison ivy with someone else's dick." I come from a country with very colorful language.
6.
7. He did precisely the same thing to every other woman as to you on the bus.
7.
7.
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8. His wife was brandishing a sharp scimitar held in the grip of her teeth.
9.
10. He was your parish priest.
11. He was an inflatable doll with a remote-controlled speaking mechanism hidden in his stomach.
12. He was the ghost of the illegitimate child of Richard Wagner and Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanoff.
13. He smelled of Opera.
14. At one point he looked deeply in your eye, and you saw his soul. His soul was frail as every human's, full of ego, insecurities, and money.
15.
16. Something spiritually indescribable happened that told you to not engage him.
go with you made me wonder whether the current cultural arrangement is optimal. Men are expected to take the initiative when courting women. I am very well aware that such mores were dictated by men but would it not be a good time to turn the tables?
Men are, if only by their physical size, a threat to women in such a situation whereas the opposite is less likely (though not absent of course). Would it not make more sense to leave the initiative to the party for whom such approaches might be more threatening? Of course I am aware that cultural change is not something you can foist on society but there are examples where I have seen women being more assertive when it comes to this sexual game, Mexico and to a lesser extent Turkey. What do you think, good idea or not? What would be won, what would be lost?
No it was like a new theme, kind of grayish or light blue header bar instead of purple, slight gradient effect and the links were "3d"-ish buttons. It looked good actually, kind of like IPB.
I thought the custom was that women were supposed to make men think the man took the initiative.
My phone loads porn every time I log in. Is that a problem you've noticed on your end too?
Not a bad idea. Just pick up a day laborer, have him do some work around the house, then dinner and a concert. Sort of like a husband, but without other obligations.
Indeed, that's the upper mescalin theme. You'll need special permissions to access or you can just bribe me by PM. Cheers.
Those are wise words, yes. True enough. However would it not be helpful if we would just cut out this illusion creation? It would make things so much clearer without all kinds of illusions...
My second thought is that he reminds you of an old flame, but that's another story...
Back in the spring of life and deep in the dusty heart of Texas two kids rode a candy apple red Schwinn stingray down the highway with Born to Be Wild blaring from ghetto blaster that Tiff held in one arm while desperately clinging to Jimmy with her other arm from the back of the banana seat.
"Don't do it, Jimmy!" Tiff pleaded.
Stung-out on Pepsi and Pop Rocks, Jimmy was peddling as fast as he could towards the train crossing, determined to cross the track just before the oncoming train. It was going to be close, very close.
"HOLD ON TIFF!"
They crossed while the boombox bellowed “Fire all of your guns at once and explode into space.” Tiff could feel the air vibrate from the steal colossus as it brushed them. Jimmy lost control and they skidded out, kicking up a cloud of dust that enveloped them.
After the dust settled Tiff screamed at Jimmy, "What is wrong with you?!"
"It's like the man says, Tiff, like a true nature's child, we were born to be wild."
"No, you were born to be wild. And how did you get so burned-out at nine?"
"Bye, Jimmy, it's over." Tiff resigned as she turned and left Jimmy standing in the gravel.
A clever - and thorough - list.
Perhaps it was the ghost of philosophy forums past.
Is Fred the big goat with curly hair at the top? What breed is he?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briard
According to Wikipedia it's called a Briard. It's also known as a Berger de Brie, which means a ground beef sandwich with soft cheese in French. So, Fred is a cheeseburger.
I think I am not comfortable investing a whole lot of time in the Shakira kind of guy.
What would be won? Time investing in something I already know is a no go.
What would be lost? Time
Oh my if only!!!! :cheer: I love trains and so the setting was perfect.
But no....
No, no, no....come on....
In other words, they knew better than to be behaving like they were. I doubt they were local based upon how they were speaking Spanglish to the driver.
But....it's literally money and the idea that it has a positive effect on people, especially when you can get public credit for it. It is just a total turn off. And as someone who cannot drink? The whole drinking till we are shitfaced is not my gig either.
Where??????
He's the "get back in the saddle" guy, where you remind yourself how it's done, make all the mistakes with, and shake off the cobwebs with. You don't want to make the mistakes with the guy you mean to keep.
I think about the first couple out of the gate just after my divorce, and I'd feel bad and maybe embarrassed if I still knew who they were. You've got to live it to learn it. That's what I think at least, but crazy as it seems, some aren't like me.
Seriously? I had a fantastic time in Chicago and there are no cobwebs.
Just long-distance longing for...which cannot happen for years...
A dance with Shakira is not my style......
If only. We all know the goal of the dance, and it would simplify things if we could eliminate the dance, close the dance hall, and have a sober conversation under the bright sunshine, but that's not how it works. You've got to do the dance and pretend it's about dancing.
I've thought of raising some backyard chickens, but it's a lot of trouble in the city. (Permit, approval of ones immediate neighbors, decent shelter for their protection from predation, etc.)
Ah that makes sense. I notice these chickens have small bodies and large wingspan.
Quoting Bitter Crank
You should move to chicken friendly neighborhood. You should take advantage of the situation with covid.
I have 5 chickens. I get 5 eggs a day in the Summer, 3 in the winter. It's easy work. Hens are legal throughout the county, but roosters need special zoning.
It's because they're noisy fucks that wake you up too early in the morn'
Is this true and not a joke? Fascinating.
What do you do with ducks? Duck eggs can't be too interesting. While Peking Duck is a delicious dish, it requires hours of preparation for a very small portion of meat and so is not sustainable unless your duck farm is burgeoning. Keeping a few ducks feels akin to keeping a few chipmunks.
One would think we hadn't had a whole conversation about my roast duck just a few weeks ago. Plenty of meat on a duck.
But, to be sure, the ducks I've known have been pets.
Isn't "plenty" a relative term? I was commenting on the inanity of keeping "a few" ducks in the backyard. I remain uncertain what the point is. Don't get me wrong, I love duck, but I've had too many bad duck dishes to remain all rosey-eyed. One time my buddy made duck tacos and I literally had to spit out all of the fat...but politely, out of site at the party. Scarred for life.
Is this the genesis of your next short story?
On the other hand, ducks vary.
Holy shit you're right. That's chicken.
I learn quickly...
And it was definitely a ducky, yeah?...
Wait so your neighbors kept ducks as pets for their kids? I'm from the midwest too, but that's crazy. :rofl: And yes, ducks make quite a meditative, restorative sound, in fact. Lovely creatures, and I feel bad for eating the Chinese version of them.
Perhaps in Russia, duck cooks you, or some questionable shit. Now that I think about it, I don't know if I want to know where we get our ducks from in NYC. It would make sense that you get better, less fucked up ducks in Russia.
Yes, certainly in comparison to geese, of which said Californian had three. The noise they made made me anxious and distressed.
Perhaps they were Canadian Geese? The worst of all.
Maybe they knew they would be eaten and had a form of pre-trauma. I dunno, I'm trying to go smoke a cigarette and you two keep bogging me down. Back in a sec dammit
When wild geese flew overhead, migrating north and south, our geese would stop what they were doing and look up, puzzled or wistful (it was difficult to distinguish their facial expressions).
People who live in expensive homes around the lakes on the west side of Minneapolis hate Canadian geese. The gather in large flocks, eat grass, and leave wet green shit on the sidewalks. They aren't as aggressive as the male geese one sister had on her farm -- they were a vicious gang.
People won't let you smoke inside?
All geese dream of being Canadian.
Quoting Bitter Crank
My roommates are asleep but would probably find reason to wake up and send me texts.
Millennials man. Passive aggressive to the core. On the other hand, I don't enjoy smoking in doors because it reminds me how nasty cigarettes are. I'd much rather smoke outside and forget that I'm ruining my body.
Freudian chicken games? The sexual hunt?
Got a video?
Ohh that does look wonderful Jamalrob and so well presented. Presentation always gets me into trouble. Made a a Mexican goat ' birria' stew yesterday, tastes wonderful but does not do much in the looks department.
Yeh it's quite important. A stew can look a mess, but appropriately confined and with a sprig of cilantro on the top, even it can please the eyes.
Will my thread be held until I meet the twenty-reply requirement, has it been dumped or is that 20 req an old rule and I'm just waiting for mod approval?
He says he didn't want ducks because they eat too much. I don't know why they would eat more than geese but hey, I'm no expert.
The hypnogogic state can be an inspiration. Kaliopy shows her face and the Sirenes sing their song.
Morpheus keeps your body captive. It's a scary and weird state of phenomenological reduction.
Indeed, I always have red onion, lemon wedges and cilantro or parsley ready. Even then it is not my strong suit. I will post a pic if I manage to make this bowl of birria look appealing...
Was it this dude?
Aaaahhh! :lol:
Happy Kidney day to you!! :flower:
Be sure to exercise that kidney to keep it in shape! :100:
Duck eggs are fine. You can use them just like chicken eggs.
Quoting Bitter Crank
It's embarrassing to have to hang around with rubes who don't know the difference between a Canada Goose and a Canadian goose. Many Canada Geese are also Canadian, but not all. There are also many Canadian geese that are not Canada Geese.
Thanks, man.
No. I have very strong associations with Canada Geese. We hunted when I was a kid and I remember putting decoys out at dawn and sitting for hours, freezing, in our blind with my father, brother, and friends. Drinking black coffee.
I have no emotional attachment to Egyptian Geese.
"The Canada goose, or Canadian goose" - wikipedia
I edited that page in Wikipedia to correct the mistake. It will take some time before the change is moderated and put in.
Did you ever read "The Lathe of Heaven." This is a lot like that.
Rule - If you kill it, you must eat it.
I thought of a joke about that, but I am too delicate to stoop so low.
Does that rule apply if you shoot a burglar?
Canadian amazement seizure disorder is pretty rare.
I know I am not the greatest food porn director, but hey I tried...
Birria de Chivo with pilav rice and my own toasted scotch bonnet hot sauce and corn tortillas, unfortunatley not home made... I had a glass of Moroccan red wine to accompany the dish. Not a usual beverage, and not a usual wine country, but tasted great...
Hey wait a minute... I can post an image no? A picture I took? How does one do that?
@frank It is indeed rare, can be mighty serious though... Sometimes I even forget Canada exists, at other times there is nothing else on my mind but Ice hocky, moose meat and infinite cold plains. (I realize I know preciously little about Canada. Must be a good sign for Canada)
It's one of the reasons I don't keep a gun in the house.
:o But...
That sounds great - and what did you have to eat?
Never had that but it looks great, though quite labor-intensive to make.
There might be a novel in there somewhere.
Concert...??? You're being so woman.
Oh, there is so much more to Canada.
- Curling (an ice sport. More boring than baseball.)
- paintings of pine trees.
- toukes.
- people bundled up to the chin, hat, mask, and sunglasses and a Columbia coat with hood.
- mysterious hydroelectric power that we don't use, yet we pay for it (in Ontario).
- living in houses we could not afford to buy.
- very potent legalized marijuana stink all over the fucking place.
- all small business store fronts boarded up, except grocery stores, pharmacies and vape shops.
- ice, slush, or construction, in an infinite loop.
- city fathers drugged out on crack cocaine.
- the man in the plow truck: the salt of the street type of person
- land of the MS (Multiple Sclerosis)
- truckers for presidents -- they rule the country already. Make that Prime Ministers.
You forgot poutine.
There's a stable wormhole over Northern Canada. When the end comes, that's how God will evacuate the good people.
I’ve been derelict in my duties.
The Unvacuous go to hell along with the Impious and Implosive.
Prepare yourself, because I am back :rofl:
Quoting praxis
Quoting javi2541997
:broken:
My carping isn't limited to Christians. :naughty:
If it's the Vacuumed and not the Unvacuumed then I am doomed.
Yes, dear. We're all very proud of you.
Vacuum is one of my favorite words. Two "u"s in a row for goodness sakes.
The phrase "The pot calling the kettle black," gets it's meaning from the fact that the pot and the kettle are both black.
Whereas double-us are commonplace.
Honest to goodness, I came here just now to say I must be losing my mind, because I've followed some religious threads about the life, work, and legacy of Jesus on our forums (may I say "our forums"?) and not only did I enjoy it, and not find it stupid, but I agreed with a lot of things people have said. And I was amazed at the point of views and approaches to the topic.
My kettle is blue.
The pot calling the kettle blue.
Happier?
My pot is silver.
Agreed.
Quoting god must be atheist
Well, I guess the biggest remaining question is whether either of you have a pot that can talk.
Surely you mean "w" s are commonplace. :razz:
Depends on levels of emotional maturity. Some men have a knack for it. Others need a baseball bat.
I thought that was obvious.
Oh my.
Forgive me but can you estimate it better as far as others would see me. I am 51 and so almost gone from a ruler who turned out to be a bad lover.
Welcome to The Philosophy Forum! :flower:
then you will have to find out what pleases you. That is what will interest or turn people off.
Natural selection, if you will.
I don't think age matters (assuming all are adults) for the emotional connection, but the problems arise from the life compatibility issues. That's what I found at least. You might not think 7 years matters if you're 55 and they're 48, but if your kids are in their 20s and off at college and theirs are mid teens in middle school, that's putting you back at little league fields and PTA meetings. Or, if you're 55 and they are mid 60s and looking to retire while you're not near there yet, that can be an issue.
I'm 55 and a 30 something I guess would make others envious, but the truth is I'd just be a tired old man having kids into my old age while trying to support a new family. Sounds miserable to me.
Or, ignore what I just said, watch The Graduate, and bang you a hot young stud.
That's why it calls the kettle blue. The kettle IS blue. It can't call the kettle bloody well silver, can it.
One would have thought so.
Ah, well, then, we shalt dwell on the obvious from here on.
How is the weather over there, Jamalrob? And how 'bout them 'Mets, huh? (Big grinning smile, teeth showing, pat on the back, a bit louder and stronger than socially acceptable.)
Been single for the first 60 years of my life. If I had to summarize relationships between singles, then the only or rather, the major criteria is this: (Pardon the strong wording)
"Everything is hanky-dory, as long as the fucking is good."
If you want to go beyond relationship, and make a major commitment, that's a totally different kettle of fish... be the kettle black, blue, or silver.
I am glad we agree on one thing...
I really think you should try to move to a chicken-friendly neighborhood before you die.
Yes, W-s are pronounced "double-u"-s. You got it!
I tried to illuminate that two u-s are not the same as double-u-s whereas theoretically they are the same. (And I don't mind expounding on the obvious, since that has become the trend as of late. :-) )
I don’t see a pot or kettle. There’s just a trash icon reversed on a gray background, which I notice is the website favicon. I’m calling the trash white, I guess, and wonder what’s going on.
The sun's come out so that's nice.
Quoting god must be atheist
Tell me about it! :chin:
The next question is whether talking kitchen appliances can see color.
Wow, what a dumb joke. Kill me now
The toaster says, “I’ll have the usual, Mac.”
The kitchen-aid says, “Give me the usual, Mac.”
The toaster turns to the kitchen-aid and says, “You always ask for the usual.”
“It wouldn’t be usual if I didn’t ask for the usual,” said the kitchen-aid while looking over the toaster and then further commenting, “Oh, and by the way, your toast is black.”
—————
Now that’s a dumb joke.
[quote=Omar Khayyam]After a momentary silence spake
Some Vessel of a more ungainly Make;
"They sneer at me for leaning all awry:
What! did the Hand then of the Potter shake?"[/quote]
And the question after that is, whether they see the colours the same way as we see them.
You can't step in the same weather twice.
I haven't heard mine talk yet, but it can think in several different languages, and it communicates by telepathy. It's also been observed to have communicated information via osmosis. That's been done mainly with its plant buddies. Budding buddies.
Thank you for adding a little class to this stupid discussion.
No, something more important is why the pot is black, could be racist to make any comments about it if it was born like that. :wink:
Good luck!
Pizza's are made by a satanic cabal of elites who are child molesters, don't have one!
That must be a pretty big cabal.
So, it's the slate calling the pot blank?
Don't order a pizza! Order two.
How's that.
So you're saying instead of having one pizza... I could have two pizzas... :chin:
No. I'm saying you should have two pizzas. At least two.
Can you justify your claim?
If you need help moving, let me know. :)
1 pizza = good. 2 pizza = 2 x good. 1 NY pizza = very, very good. 2 NY pizza = very, very, very, very good.
Damn, I have no rebuttal.
There's something about those gross mushrooms out of a jar or can...when they end up on a pizza they're transformed into one the most delicious toppings.
Then there is bird flu to worry about--chickens on their backs in beds, coughing, fever, chills...poor things.
Don't ask a cop where a good chicken friendly neighborhood is. You're gonna get stupid answer.
Ask the city zoning.
Yeah I had a similar experience the other day. I had a meeting with my parents without the masks and was a feeling of confidence/chilling that I was missing!
I haven't seen The Graduate. hmmmm....
@Noble Dust Got any leftover pizza?
Typo, been playing too much Wordle. I fixed it. :lol: :up:
But I liked your way better.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr the shaking has returned... :worry:
Yup. Should I overnight you a slice?
Yess!! I will send you a Tamale in exchange! :flower:
Sounds like a plan.
Thinking about it, it might actually have made more sense.
Pizza makers predicted your move. You can order one pizza and they deliver two (for the price of one).
Mushroom Tops Make Great Toppings
Sang to the Tune of "Jingle Bells"
Mushroom tops make great toppings
Toppings make great trappings
Trappings trap the customer
That is their calling
Call the number, order pizza
Made just like a pizza:
Out of can ingredients
Including mushroom topsies
Musroom tops make great toppings
(and again, from the beginning)
da fuq
Yah. Du faq. :-)
What does "du faq" mean?
"Du" means "you" in German. faq does not mean anything.
Get down get funky
Do you use chopsticks to eat frequently? I realised this morning that I use them a lot!
I love using chopsticks. I like to think I'm pretty good at it, but even so, using them slows me down, which is good because I eat at the pace of a rabid dog.
I have the same feeling! Whenever I see myself picking the noodles up with those I feel proud of myself :rofl:
I'll have what you're having. Noodles so good they cause an out of body experience? :chin:
The bourgeois swine would be easy to coax out of his bricked up encampment with news of under-valued real estate (previously owned by his two brothers. I have the titles, but he doesn't need to know that). Once he came out, we Amalgamated Wolves would grab him and devour him on the spot, Brooks Brothrs suit and all. Slash, Snap, Chomp. Then we would turn his brick mansion into a club house for sex, drugs, and rock and roll.
I eat all meals now only with a fondue fork. I will walk out of any restaurant in digust if they can't accommodate that simple request.
How do you navigate fried rice? A shoveling motion similar to chopstick use? Just be careful not to stab yourself in the lip or tongue. Assuming you're wolfing the rice down in a rabid manner.
Now, of course, I pick up the plate and pour them directly into my stomach.
I've done it all my life.
It makes the peas taste funny,
But it keeps them on the knife.
We'd pick out the carrots, eat them quickly, then piss all about, laughing hysterically.
I can still remember grandma, tears of laughter streaming down her face, as she hopped up on the table, raised up her flowery dress, and squatted over her plate and let a full stream burst forth.
I do miss those Passover Seders of my youth.
Rollo May
Trudeau uses assault rifles, armored vehicles and snipers to ban peaceable assembly (Feb 15, 2022)
Ignoring the hyperboles for a moment, there are a few coinciding (us-versus-them) alignments, political, religious, media, ..., the usual.
The site is kind of influential, read both by regular/casual Christians and intellectuals, and the owner posts regular/frequent analyses (including how women should behave of all things), but does not allow much by way of disagreeing comments.
Is this really the face of the contemporary US, in part, just behind the front?
It appears to belong to the Christian / Liberty-obsessed sphere, a vaguely defined area of the right/far right political zone (this scholarly conclusion based on a quick glance).
For an interesting read, The Next Civil War: Dispatches from the American Future by Stephen Marche
Marche outlines 5 imagined scenarios leading to civil war (he doesn't suggest a repeat of 1860) and then provides documentary evidence of why the scenarios are not delusional. I'm about half way through, and it's depressing/distressing because the evidence is fairly persuasive.
How Civil Wars Start And How to Stop Them by Barbara F. Walter whose work is in international political affairs is also worth checking out. Here's a review of the two books in the New York Times.
She was talking about the Fire Fighters that come in...eh you say?
:smirk:
Anyone want anything?
A firefighter to go please.
:love: :love: :love:
It's a deep dish pizza not a casserole or a kind of lasagna and I had two pieces of it when I was in Chicago and that should hold me for 6 months or so.
The NY style is good and there were firefighters at a table, three couples and I was watching the dynamics and listening a bit and I thought I had a sailor's tongue. Oh, my I would have been ducking my eyes if I was one of the gals. Anyway....I didn't even find the firefighters attractive tonight.
We built a room within our ranch house for an extra bedroom during the beginning of the pandemic.
It took Nick and I 80 hrs to build it, complete with a barn door and it took him alone, 5 hours to remove it and it looks like it was never even there. Yes, compliments to the prepper which was me and heartbreak because I miss the kid that lived in there so very much.
I'm watching my family fall apart, or fracture apart, either way I feel like a failure as a mother, a wife and a friend. Fuckin aaaa
Giving you a big ole hug
Maybe hook up with a meter reader. They serve an important community function and they need lovin too!
It's very scolery,
Wow, sorry mom.
I have yet to meet, read or even hear about anyone, ever, who has attempted to understand the truth (not merely acceptable answers but the most correct possible ones) and still been that kind of ethical failure.
It's bias, sure, but at nearly 50 and with an average of 300 books per year since at least 1996 (and more articles and papers than anyone can count) that's a whole lot of evidence in the "not very damned likely" column.
Straight Wittgenstein! (This, a compliment.) "No human can guess the motivation for another human's action." The sole and living exceptions of this unproven claim are husbands and men in relationships, whom their female lovers expect to know what the lady wants, needs, desires without first communicating it to their men.
Arghhh...Tiff has put to us a perfect example of that. At least to me. I exhausted all possibilities in answering her inquiry, to the extent and limits of my imagination, yet she said, I was actually the farthest from the truth, and it should have been obvious to all and to me why she had or had not done whatever it was, I forgot the details of the story. The lesson was clear, though: she expected us to know, really know, what only she could have known. And the ensuing responses by us and by her showed that we did not know what she expected us to know.
Hugging you Maw ..thank you for being you
Yes, yes they do. I have a good friend in a Chicago suburb that works for the city, 26 years now. Super person! :flower:
Quoting SkyLeach
You are correct in that someone who was a failure at all of life would not find let alone, yet stay in a group of otherthinkers such as myself and maybe others here as well.
I don't know what to make of this. I know we were talking about what turned me off with the Shakira guy at the golf tournament on the shuttle back to our cars.
Maybe I was being more cut throat because what I was able to read him in addition to what his mouth was saying.
What was turning me off was the statement makers of "I can because I make bank."
Like wearing the wristbands that are for open bar only tickets, then saying they had already been sun burned on Friday on the greens (tickets for the package he and his flock had are expensive af IF you can buy them. Most are awarded to companies that are big in AZ, you are part of the Biff and Brittany club of society makers, those who are sponsoring the booze ect) dissing the driver in speaking Spanglish to her while telling me she doesn't speak English, but most of all was him climbing to stand on the seats of the shuttle, stratteliing the isle while to imitate Shakira.
Then the seal of the deal was when he got the feeling that he was being a jackass and his flock probably doesn't ever call him on anything, decided he could slide right into a conversation with me and I was already over his behavior that I wasn't going to respect him the way he was looking me to. Which was a result of that entitlement from beginning to end. We were roughly the same age and he knew better, I didn't tell him that but I did warn him when he was about to get tossed off. I'm not heartless :heart:
If you read the article they are already saying it is not going to change next year by saying we want a racus crowd. :100:
My dream job is to work for the parks department, to drive around in a golf cart wearing green pants, moving limbs off the trail, and directing people to the bathrooms.
I'd let the kids jump the fence and play on the locked fields. I've got my fill of being an authority figure already by being a mod here so they'll benefit from my old age chill.
Our Park Rangers wear green but so do the Crisis Volunteers with the Phoenix Fire department. The difference is park rangers are armed and Crisis Volunteers are not armed.
You know that is where my attraction lays, someone showing up at a situation I need help with, without a firearm.
I guess I appreciate back up in more than one area of life.
Let me know when because I would like to participate in such racus behavior.
'Sorry' to disagree. How many times is that word used to signify anything but an apology?
It's good when people can say what exactly they are apologising for. As you did.
All the better to evaluate the motivation.
Most people have an instinct, right or wrong, for sussing out an insincere apology and what might lie behind it.
In this case, the original 'shout-out' was a guessing game about a turn-off.
Turn-off: a person or thing that causes someone to feel bored, disgusted, or sexually repelled.
"he smelled of carbolic soap, a dreadful turn-off".
You and others played along. With yet another game. Just another hook along the way...
Quoting god must be atheist
Hope your 'shame' is of the light and fleeting type :sparkle:
No shame and I appreciate you trying not to put me on the spot.
You are right in that I am sure a lot of folks couldn't guess my motivation, including Shakira guy. It's always a buzz kill when a stone cold sober person is mixed in with a bunch of strangers who are drunk.
~ pondering your point.
I had fun compiling that list, and it was foolish of me to think that any one of my points was dead on. Perhaps the adage is true, or maybe not, that women want guys to guess their thoughts, but it sure is true that guys' egos are prone to be hurt even with little blows to them. Mine is, anyway.
Then I blow everything out of proportion.
We are two sides of the same coin in that aspect.
GMA, I appreciate everyone here both those that I agree with and those that question my standing. I am not afraid to show my vulnerabilities here because despite our agreeance or not, I respect you. I respect the members of this forum and the intimate ways in which we operate. It takes a lot of trust and I have placed it in the hands of those here before and I will again. I learn more from those that stand on the opposite side of the topic, than I do in people that agree with me.
{{{GMA}}}
Pardon my language but Fuck love! :shade:
Perhaps it's more a case of over-thinking; caring and worrying too much...
Fair enough. Moi aussi. Guilty as charged. No biggie unless it takes over your brain cell.
If you have insight and awareness, as you have, plus good communication skills, then any potential 'harm' can be healed. Before that, you have to know rather than guess, what and where is the 'harm'...
Is it really harmful to question; to get people to look at their words, their behaviour?
I don't think so.
Especially on a philosophy forum. Especially when only one side of a story can be heard.
Important, therefore, to ask relevant questions and not play it safe just incase it might 'hurt'.
As for the so-called 'adage' -
Quoting god must be atheist
I think most here want to be understood as well as to understand.
Even if you're not religious, St Francis of Assissi's Prayer for Peace kinda covers it, don't you think?
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace:
where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
where there is sadness, joy.
O divine Master, grant that
[b]I may not so much seek
to be consoled as to console,
to be understood as to understand,
to be loved as to love.[/b]
For it is in giving that we receive,
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.
Discuss.
:gasp:
Curing? :chin:
Quoting Noble Dust
I'm sensing some internal conflict.
I object to making "Neapolitan" just another category in your range of American pizza types along with all the others, but I'll let it slide. In Iceland and Sweden they put bananas on pizza.
Quoting Noble Dust
Nice cherry (tomato) picking.
I suppose in the states we needed a word to denote the "authentic" style from Naples, from the American style, which probably originated in NY.
Quoting jamalrob
Yeah, say what you like about the US, but we've got pizza on lock.
I was just trying to cause trouble. I feel what we need right now in this world is more conflict.
Hmmm. A sweet-lock doesn't sound too bad... :starstruck:
Ah. You're just a sweetie pie :kiss:
:lol:
Say what?
Come again?
What? Come,come!
Uwot ?
Two is multiple :chin:
But...but... you only put out 2.
Yes, you did!
Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_mFVls5IAY
https://www.debisimons.com/whats-the-historical-background-of-zip-a-dee-doo-dah/
Yeah. I deliberately didn't choose the Disney version.
Most interesting to read the background...
Anti-natalist?
Or did I miss the antenatal thread?
So now? I distanced myself from the world at large and we are going to war with Russia???
I beg your pardon???
Who the hell was in charge of this when I wasn't watching??
No. Putin just wants to shove it down Biden's throat that he's impotent.
Putin wants to undermine Biden because he wants Trump back in his pocket.
Quoting T Clark
I wish this conflict ends up in peace without the life of innocent people taken away.
I think it's that Biden promised some vague retribution for Russia's interference in American elections. Putin is spitting in his face (partly).
Admittedly I am not that familiar with impotency, so forgive me if I sound naive, but wouldn't it be hard to "swallow" a flacid penis?"
I'm just cringing at the idea of yuck :gasp:
I don't think Biden is symbolically giving Putin head. :chin:
Jesus is having nothing to do with this.
Not hard to swallow, but difficult to force it.
@Frank's pronouns are indecently indefinite, Biden being the impotent one. "Putin wants to shove Biden's impotence down Biden's throat." Clumsy, repetitious. Putin would have to sever the Presidential Organ first. In fact, "His impotence" could theoretically refer to Putin or Biden, Russia, Nato, the US, the EU, Zimbabwe, or any number of placid flaccid places.
What Frank wanted to say was "Putin wants to assert his post-communist potent virility upon the agéd president of the allegedly erectile-dysfunctional United States and the recently limp-pricked Western Alliance.
We shall see who chokes first.
Thank god because that image is really hard to ahem swallow :confused:
Rotlfmao lololololol
Omgggggggggg!! I'm rolling over here!!!!
lolololol I love you! :heart: :flower: :heart:
@jamalrob You doing okay?
Aye, not too bad thanks.
Gmail looks OK too.
Exactly. Thank you.
Good and Thank you!
I remember this song with the Dave Clarke Five back in 1964-ish?? When I was just a fat little kid in the hood. This song catapulted that band into no.1. standing as my favourite band then.
Over the years many bands became favourite, but then they lost the status as I always overplayed their songs. Strangely, I am playing mostly ole' Beatles and Rolling Stones stuff. A bit of Beach Boys (Barbara Ann).
Last night I listened to an overplayed (by me over the years) band, that I hadn't listened to for twenty years, and they floored me with their harmony, structure, melody, beat, and insight of the words. Can you guess which band? Well, the Bee Gees of course. With their hit songs from the 1960s, not with their disco songs.
I remember The Dave Clark Five too. 'Glad All Over' was the one.
Overplaying songs was easy; many stayed in the Top 20 Charts forever and a day.
The Beach Boys - 'Break Away'. I couldn't.
The Bee Gees, eh? I never would have guessed.
But yeah, so talented. I had to look up BG's 60s and was reminded of ''I Gotta Get A Message to You', 'Massachusetts' and 'How Do You Mend a Broken Heart' :cool:
I return to the 60s for some sense of a better time, perhaps more innocent.
Away from the present angst to a groovy kind of love.
And then again, I enjoy being caught by surprise. The joy of the new.
Good talking to you :sparkle:
Any talk about Putin doing this or that for anything other than money is a waste of time.
He is creating havoc to hide his crimes and get western leaders, especially Biden, replaced with his puppets, especially Trump, who will give him an open world to spend his wealth.
He is invading Ukraine to expand his wealth.
Greed is Putin's motivating force.
[quote=Frank Underwood]Power is more important than money.[/quote]
The "House of Cards" depiction of the completely amoral politician seems fairly realistic to me. One can always have a bit more of both, mind ...
I have collected some 2200 songs, more-or-less, that I really enjoy. Not full albums; very few are full albums. I used to go into ecstasy listening to some of these songs. Maybe, or if you ask, I'll publish the song list, but warn you, it is formidably long to read it.
Anyway. I kept listening to them to this day. I started with about 8 GB of music, when I started the digital collection on MP3s, and it has grown to 14 GB.
Once in a while I'd pick up modern songs, and they were just as good as the oldies and goodies, but less frequently occurring, and eventually getting new music just fizzed out for me.
I am bored with it, and I hardly listen to it.
Add to the effect that according to a study I read, a newborn baby can listen to 23 hours of loud rock without any psychological damage, whatsoever; the average teenager, on the average, to about 6-8 hours; the adult in his fifties 2 hours. So the enjoyment duration of music declines in daily amounts as you age. At least this is true for loud bang-bang music. I'm 68, so I listen to ten-twenty minutes every third day. Maybe I would listen more if I could get new music to enjoy, but that's no longer my ambition.
Interesting. I've rarely been able to take even 2 minutes of rock music without my brain turning into porridge. Can't do pop music in general. I know almost none of the music of my own youth - 1970's-80's. I like some old-school blues and a little 60's soul, but usually I listen to classical music or jazz. I do have a soft spot for outliers like Tom Waits who I consider to be a kind of cabaret artist.
I could never listen to brass blown instruments. It drives me up the wall, their sound. I can't abide with it for a minute. Yet I love Jazz! if it's reduced to drum, keyboard and base. One of the rare jazz pieces I can't get enough of is Take Five by the Dave Brubeck Quartet. Or Quintet. And it's due to the drum solo. The sleeve said, "the drum solo taxes both the player and the listener by working them very hard." I'm also enamoured by the 5/4 beat. In "Do What You Like" by Derek and Dominoes; and some of the songs on "Jesus Christ Superstar".
Almost the same with classical music. Although there it's not the type of instrument that drives me out of the room, but what they play. Still, there are some pieces that move me to tears. I cherish them from the first note to the last. One such surprise for me was the Leonora Overture by L.v.Beethoven.
And Rock n Roll or rock is no exception. There are songs I could never stand and songs that I would put my right arm into the fire for.
Nothing can escape my like or dislike, no genre. Gypsy music, Bollywood music, ballroom music, Latin dancing music, African folk music, Gregorian chants, Ukranian and Russian church choir music, Edward Grieg, Eric Clapton or Eminem.
In conclusion, I have to quote an old friend, who is dead now:
"It's a misconception to believe that musicians play music on their instruments. They play music on your heartstrings."
In the west these two were connected to the Viet Nam war in America, and to peace protests all over the world, as well as free sex (the young and the hippies) and not free sex (prostitutes for older men, pining away aside from sex with their husbands for older ladies.) There were supposedly moral, free-thinking and radical changes in the divide between the old and the young in America, but now that the hippies are in their eighties, and the flower children are in their seventies, and the baby boomers make up most of the white middle class voting block, it turns out that their value systems are remarkably similar to that of their parents whose values the boomers were busy trying to disown.
I have no right to question this, but...I question this. It's a posture or something you've reinforced over the years by telling it to yourself and others. If you love music, it doesn't make sense. It's like ketchup lovers who refuse to eat anything but Heinz.
Now don't go crazy. I could be completely wrong. From my own experience it seems like some ears are particularly sensitive to certain instruments. I used to play sax but it made my ears go funny on certain notes. Doesn't happen when listening to others play though. In any case, you do you, as they say.
It's an interesting thing to think about, whether there are musical instruments that you just don't like. I used to think I didn't like the Scottish bagpipes, because they're too loud and lacking all subtlety compared to other kinds of bagpipes, but then I climbed a mountain overlooking Glen Coe and heard the piper down in the Glen. And it works nicely in the martial context too, in massed ranks of pipers inspiring awe in the enemy/audience.
Steel drums can get pretty annoying, but again, it's probably about how they're used (although I haven't found any steel drum music I like).
Violin can be horrible, but it's the same thing: in the right hands and playing the right music, it can be beautiful.
Can't think of any more right now.
Most importantly, the racist attitude of the populous remains, but in a WHOLLY DIFFERENT format of expression from what it had historically been until the late fifties, early sixties in America. Racial hatred has moved underground, and what was once socially acceptable and expected, now causes public outcry, like the treatment of Blacks by some police.
I don't live in America, and I am not Black. so I stay away from trying to sound like an expert; but to me, as a Hungarian living in Canada, there has been tremendous social progress in America due to the "love the world" and "peace to all" attitude of the boomers in the 1960s.
While I stand by that, I do not intend to discount, at all, the tremendous effect of the True Heroes of making discrimination softer, and apartheid to come to close, such as by Rose Park, Mandela, MLK, JFK and many-many others.
Don't you find it a bit pretentious that your disbelief is strong enough to challenge the sincere description of my taste?
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I love chocolate, but I can't eat dark chocolate. It makes me wanna vomit.
You know better than my lifetime of experience and you will challenge that if someone loves chocolate, then that person must love all forms of chocolate.
I tell you young man: your disbelief reflects your lack of capacity to the depth of understanding to know what human nature is.
Go ahead. Pontificate. "GMBA is not right, because his own description of his own taste clashes with my well-established and superior insight into the human psyche."
Now you know what I think of your opinion.
Just don't forget: "Philosophers of the world! Unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains!"
An intriguing idea, I like it. I think on reflection I find the sound ugly and the posturing of the artists irritating.
The first Santana concert I saw was held at Toronto's Old Roy Thompson Hall on Yonge Street, a venue famous for its excellent acoustics. Except my ticket was behind a pillar, a column of mosaicked column. Very wide. I kid you not. The sound blew me away, though.
However, the first footages of rock musicians at action which I watched in movies were of the Beatles, which brought me to tears; they were a bunch of smiling young, innocent kids. Happy, without bounds. The next I saw was of the Rolling of Stones. The RS musicians did not posture, other than Jagger. They just went strumming their guitars. Back in the sixties.
Music videos came two decades after I discovered rock, and I hardly watched any, because they always clashed with the image in my mind that the song elicited. It was never, or very seldom if ever, a visual image; it was mostly an emotional image. I can't explain it better. An image of mood, an image of perhaps complex emotions, brought out in me in intensities larger than life.
How can I have an image of an emotion, of a mood, @Jamalrob that is not visual? I admit I can't. It is a process the description of which defies my language skills. So I used an ersatz instead of precise wording, and the ersatz is hardly satisfactory. Sorry, you have to force yourself to understand what I am struggling to express; if necessary, use painful electric shocks on yourself to successfully reach the eventual happy understanding. :-)
I think that's how music is meant to work. But I find Shostakovich or Mahler do that just fine for me.
Agreed. Each to his own.
I won't ask for a long list but perhaps a sample of those listened to whenever you 'need a friend'.
Dancing or nodding along to the changing weather... or indeed to change it...
James Taylor - You've Got A Friend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_MdSu0I620
Quoting god must be atheist
Quoting Amity
When I wrote that I was thinking of 'new' to me, not necessarily modern. I don't go searching but find them here on TPF; notably the 2 music threads and one stand-out discussion started by @tim wood.
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/11845/hillary-hahn-rosalyn-tureck-e-power-biggs/p1
It's about setting a challenge to your ears and listening, not just hearing and dismissing as 'not for me'.
So much of our identity/image, potential relationships can be affected by what we share and care about.
Quoting god must be atheist
I actually prefer silence for most of the day. I have a CD collection I rarely listen to. Sometimes I listen to the radio. Are you really so routinised?
Quoting Bitter Crank
Now you're bringing back even more memories...
I was likewise shocked by Steve Ellis singing 'Everlasting Love'!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaYTNsS_m2w
His band didn't actually play; the backing provided by session musicians
As to Burden's gravelly voice, perhaps this from wiki might explain it, and his look:
'In his song "When I Was Young," he states he met his first love at 13, who was very experienced while he was not. He also says he smoked his first cigarette at 10 years old and would skip school with his friends to drink Newcastle Brown Ale.
Burdon describes his early school years as a "dark nightmare" that "should've been penned by Charles Dickens." Due to the river pollution and humidity in Newcastle he suffered asthma attacks daily.'
I think that's why I enjoyed the OU mini-music-module 'Start Listening to Music'.
It led me to listen, most carefully, to all the instruments of the orchestra.
I began to appreciate brass which had been a turn-off for me, for particular reasons.
Quoting jamalrob
:smile: That would have been a powerful, wondrous happening. The heart strings plucked.
A climactic experience combining a whole lot of everything. Unforgettable.
I felt a similar stirring on a swelteringly hot Aussie day. The Christmas Parade.
I was just standing on the pavement with my relis - my first ever visit- and didn't expect to hear the amazing sound coming from pipe bands. OMG. The tears...
Yes, I think that is true for me too.
Many songs have strong associations of time, place and people.
Emotional indeed but some I listen to with detachment.
YouTube is fantastic...
Congratulations :party:
I think I'm about 3yrs plus 2 months with gaps.
Happy to be here too, right now, with you and others :sparkle:
Thanks Amity! Glad to hear it :100:
How are you?
Take care :sparkle:
Yeah, wish I could do that too *sighs*
TPF is the nearest thing I got. Thanks for that :cool:
and the midgies. But in my dream, everything is perfect :cool:
Schmaltzy.
Clint Eastwood. "I Talk To the Trees"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn8YubD01sk
That reminds me I need a new pinch front crease hat.
Now, the question:
The colour. Black or white?
Hmmm. To hell with it. Both. For :halo: and :naughty: days.
Quoting 6 Common Cowbow Hat Shapes and Styles ( with history)
:cool: with matching boots?
Ah. So tartan baffies, then :nerd:
That's why I like them.
Oh your pretty pooochiness :grin:
I actually got my hat in Canada, where I was surprised to find they have cowboys, hiding behind bushes and stuff.
Well, that would be because they were feart of your big gun :gasp:
OK. Back to work. I suppose...
Stay safe :sparkle:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.3402/jac.v2i0.5677?fbclid=IwAR3jZsktir_6x-VQgLPP0LwQ3hLW1DuMQNMciWyE2e0qe7bQZcfZTqGlCa0
Tired of postmodernist despair? Bored with international politics? You need the diversion of a philosophical novelty. Let me see those eyeballs rolling!
Russian Celebrities, Public Figures Speak Out Against Ukraine War
(The Moscow Times is an independent Moscow-based English language newspaper that's often highly critical of the regime)
Following are some quotes from a couple of the original documents mentioned in the above article (Google translated):
From 150+ scientists:
https://trv-science.ru/2022/02/we-are-against-war/
And from 150 local authority deputies in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Samara, etc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RQwoxg7tkjM-4BhuSLftyUaPfSDPd8ONECnMtFhqkgo/
Maybe letters from some scientists and relatively powerless local authority members from around the corner in the neighborhood don't count for much (I'm not sure), but it's something.
There's also this statement from Russian journalists, published via Meduza, which is Russian but based in Latvia:
https://meduza.io/news/2022/02/24/eta-avantyura-prineset-gore-v-semi-tysyach-lyudey-rossiyskie-nezavisimye-smi-vystupili-protiv-voyny-s-ukrainoy
Ah, sorry.
Thanks for posting this here. I no longer participate in that thread. It was worthwhile and helped give context but has turned a bit nasty.
I've been wondering about Russian reaction, including your own.
Good to see such open condemnation and hopefully the start of Putin's downfall.
My heart goes out to all affected by this full-scale attack on innocent citizens.
A strong response is required immediately with humanitarian help for refugees.
It's a most grave situation which looks set to escalate.
I hope that Putin can be stopped...by his own...
It is for some.
You bring an interesting perspective to the forum. It's a good thing you're here.
Yes. No idea how that could play out though.
I'm thinking of those men forced to nod their heads in obedience to their Master. Listening to fellow Russians' condemnations, they might be spurred to action.
Also the increasing sanctions re banks etc.
A steady accumulation of hits...
Perhaps, there will be some kind of internal takeover...
Like you, I have no idea how that would work.
Who is in the position to do that?
English translation: the more distant the last war was, the more people forget how horrific it was, and they start anew.
Thanks for your comment friend. Appreciated it. I am glad to share opinions and thoughts with you too
Any insights about how the average Russian feels about the invasion?
Also see my earlier post if you didn't see it: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/658790
here's a neat little short list, mostly modern pop, from the 80s to the present.
I heard all of them first and always without the visuals. More powerful that way, you build your own guided fantasy that way.
Two of the songs is not even in English.
The best for the last. Late ninteen-sixties, the pearly-haired girl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRe9SsSFTes
Team BS Case depart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPO76Jlnz6c
Coolio Gangsa's Paradise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROGsTorwzNo
Charlotte Gainsbourg Bombs Away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svWINSRhQU0
Police Wrapped Around Your Finger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-vw1tKtgTE
Flying Lizards TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNLsmh_otYs
Omega Gyongyhaju Lany
Wanna forever be together 'til the end
And I found the problem, it starts with me
I figured out now what I want, got what I need ..."
I like the idea of unconditional love. Not because we could ever escape conditions or gain some leverage by it. It seems to me to happen despite many of our impulses. A strange unsolicited counterpoint.
Paine, I used to love the idea of unconditional love my whole life. But I have found that I do have some conditions and it's better that I know it now because some conditions would be deal breakers.
But before we get to deep in the weeds, roleplay with me for a minute.
Game?
We live a happy couple of years and then one day on the way home from a club, I look at you and say, let's rob this liquor store for kicks! You know that I love you unconditionally :heart:
And I know you love me unconditionally too :hearts:
I pull the car in front of the liquor store and say come on let's go grab some money like we agreed.
Your response is unconditional love right?
That does sound like a fun date. Too fun, maybe. But my experience of that sort of love would not put me in that situation. The sudden is the proof of secrets. True love sees all things.
I was exaggerating to make the point, that a lot of people have a core set of beliefs that they might not always realize that it is an internal guide to which action/actions go past our subconscious threshold of unconditional love.
Does that make sense?
It does make sense. I don't want to suggest I live in a different country.
Here's how unconditional love works - I offer you my love and friendship with no need or expectation that you will accept or return it. Unconditional love is fearless, but no armed robbery is required.
Well today's an exception; I assume I won't be on regularly for another couple months or so. Your
greeting is warmly taken though.
Quoting jamalrob
As will I, sooner or later. Hopefully.
What on earth doesn't have ups and downs?
The 60 cycle hum.
It would appear that even a 60 cycle hum has its very regular ups and downs.
BC getting mystical; we love to see it.
What is it that frightens you? The current situation or what is being said on the forum?
What is happening in Ukraine and beyond is horrendous. Civilians killed and fleeing for their lives. The various perspectives and analyses discussed are interesting, some informative but also a bit on the scary side...
Quoting jamalrob
Yes, needs must accept a natural rhythm I suppose. It seems all philosophy forums have their cycles.
Quoting Bitter Crank
A straight line. On a heart monitor. But that would mean death or neutrality.
The ups and downs and roundabouts of lively discussion are the life-force of philosophy.
As well as considered analysis and careful dialogue.
@jamalrob and team are central to keeping keen thinkers around. But any forum is only as good as its participants. There are more than enough good ones to keep going strong...
Quoting Bitter Crank
Yes. But such well-formed regularity isn't what happens here, I don't think.
People come and go for short, long, forever periods. Quantity and quality of discussions likewise.
There are reasons why this happens.
For me, the Plato discussions were spoiled by someone who still maintains a pattern of trolling and misrepresentation, to say the least, whose worst posts were removed. And warnings were given.
So now, newcomers don't see the behaviour and give the 'benefit of the doubt', where no such doubt exists for me and others affected. Some are now gone, some have returned. and others ignore.
Again, we all work out for ourselves if it is worthwhile to continue...or keep a distance...
@jamalrob and his hard-working team must despair at times.
I thank them for monitoring certain posters who bring a dishonest approach to discussion.
Also, other knowledgeable thinkers who recognise and call them out.
Acceptance of ups and down is one thing. What matters is the length and quality of each.
What brings the downs back up? Not people who back off, for sure.
I take breaks for my own sake and sanity.
But I haven't found a better place for keeping the mind sharp and having fun.
A learning experience in every sense. Old and new. TPF is a blast.
Thanks to all who make it so :sparkle:
Thanks. From the 80s to the present, I'm pretty much ignorant of pop music.
Visuals can enhance the listening experience. I am thinking of the discussion I had with @tim wood:
Re: Hillary Hahn's Lark Ascending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOWN5fQnzGk
I agree that some YouTube videos often detract from the song.
What do you mean by a 'guided fantasy'?
I am sure I did not use the right phrase. A leader (group or individual) puts you in a very relaxed state of mind, you are usually lying down comfortably. Then he or she, the leader, will describe images for you that you envision in your mind. Most frequently they will tell you to see yourself in a non-challenging, relaxing, and pleasant environment and they go from there. Most people come out of it saying this is the next best experience to sex.
I don't know what it's properly called. It is not hypnotism, although the two share many elements.
Mostly the situation. I should make a point to be more clear whenever I say things, I find I often leave out context.
john, we are here for you and your mind that might be restless. One of the many beautiful things about the forum is that we are worldwide, which means, there is always someone here and able to interact with you, so please, know that you are never alone. We are here in any way you need.
My private inbox is always open if you ever feel the need to express yourself in private.
Just check in with us, we are here and will be through this storm.
Stay strong! :strong:
Tiffers :flower:
Yeah, me too. I often leave things unsaid but am always glad if someone asks me to clarify.
Thanks for that.
The current situation is frightening, no doubt about that.
Imagine the fear and yet bravery of those who stand in opposition to this mad, bad dictator and his army. The Russians too - in illegal protest - show this is not what they want. For that, they are beaten and thrown into prison.
Putin has launched an all-out war by land, sea and air on Ukraine, thereby offering little in the way of escape. The front-line is everywhere.
Ukraine has a population of 44 million compared to Russia's 146. The resources to fight and defend are negligible...the suffering will be immense.
Not only that, the repercussions will be felt worldwide.
Perhaps, in Europe, we had a false sense of security. According to Ch4's Matt Frei, this is the first time in 70yrs since 2 major countries on this continent have gone to war on this scale.
We are in a new era.
Putin has said that if anyone tries to oppose him, Russia's response will be rapid with consequences never before faced in our history. That seems to suggest his willingness to go nuclear...
On top of all we have gone through, this is unbelievable and scary as hell.
In the UK, we have had Brexit and Covid, never mind a dishonest and corrupt PM.
It makes me both angry and dismayed beyond belief.
However, at least we aren't being bombed to death...yet. Hopefully never.
There is fear and uncertainty about our changing way of life.
How must children feel when they hear talk of a possible WW3; this after covid restrictions?
It's bad enough for adults but if we can talk it through it helps.
Analyses of the history and issues of blame - well, that's fine up to a point...
I'm glad you brought up the emotional side; some don't look at that aspect or share feelings.
I haven't listened to or watched any news today.
Fortunately, a friend dragged me out for a drive along a nearby loch.
Then a lunch, natter and a laugh put things into perspective.
I appreciate being given the chance to say more about it here, even if it might be long-winded.
Forgive me, I don't think I could ever write a short story.
Give my love to Oscar and the Coconut. Your writing is fantastic :cool:
Stay safe and well.
:hearts:
:pray: :victory: :sparkle:
The back-and-forths, the left-and-rights and the in-and-outs.
Unconditional love doesn't require unconditional compliance. If it did, that would be the condition.
Unconditional love means loving the person regardless of what they do. The best example is mother to child.
Thanks guys, I really needed that. :heart:
A pleasure to share thoughts and care.
With love :heart:
The Hollies - He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother (Lyrics)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oT57tjz9py8
Stay strong and keep writing.
We need you too. We carry each other :cool:
((Group hug))
You just described the Viet Nam war, the Afghan war against CCCP, and the Afghan war against USA.
I once wrote about that. It was an essay, titled "Unconditional Love, Unconditional Expectations".
Which ones doesn't what I said describe: https://www.infoplease.com/history/us/major-military-operations-since-world-war-ii
I hope not for decades.
I get the impression, I think from @jamalrob that they are pretty much like family to each other. There is a closeness. Many Russians are protesting despite danger to themselves. I think Putin has made a grave misjudgement.
Latest thoughts @jamalrob ?
Hope you are well.
Perhaps Bosnia and Kosovo. A lot of innocent lives were probably saved at a relatively low cost.
Everything you say is no doubt right. That's where the word "balkanization" came from. But, as I noted, a lot of innocent lives were saved.
To the extent that a given war involves two (or more) groups who know each other well, it seems to be worse. Fratricidal viciousness. Rwanda, for instance. Or Cambodia. Of course, strangers can do a perfectly fine job of killing people they don't know.
As we continue on through this grim century (and the next one) where food and water will be in short supply in a hotter, dryer world, there will probably be more fratricidal conflict.
Unfortunately this isn't a guarantee that things will stay that way. Serbs and Croats spoke the same language and lived in the same streets. Russians and Ukrainians lived and worked together in Donetsk etc. And what BC said.
Yummy! I like mustard when it is mixed with pork and rice :yum:
However, that is not what I had for supper. I had some baked xtra lean grass-fed beef, a baked potato, and brussels sprouts. Spell Check thinks I'm talking about Belgium.
Oh, I see: you are talking about mustard greens.
Ah, but mustard greens are in fact the greens of the mustard (?) plant. That horseradish heat is very much in play. Imagine eating collards or cooked kale but your nasal passages get destroyed. Excellent. And yes, it pairs perfectly with pork. And don't skimp on the pickled Daikon. I pickled them myself.
It was in fact quite yummy.
Goes without saying
I wish that were fully true.
Mustard greens make them have that little spicy flavor in the pork. I always tend to buy French mustard because they have all the grains around. I do not like the rest of the mustards where are full of sugar
I once described myself as a pizza asshole. When it comes to mustard, I would describe myself as a mustard ecumenicalist. From bright yellow American mustard, to grainy French. It's all mustard.
:lol: :100:
So you support unity among the various types of mustard? Can't argue with that, I suppose.
Yes, but they smoked differenent brands of tobacco cigarettes. That's a serious enough difference in pro-ethnic culture to lop his head off. This is not a joke.
Also, Croats worte with Latin letters, Serbs with Cyrillic characters. If you did not know whether to protect someone random on the street or to shoot him, you asked her (yes, females too) to spell, "Iz Voronyezh v Donyetsk."
Thanks, that hadn't occurred to me.
The first paper says you will combine your lives. Easily done.
The rest are to specify which parts of your life you want back, which you will be flexible on, which you will fight for, which you will give up, which you will burn before parting with, etc. and then all of the back and forth that goes with that lovely dance. All for $6.00 a minute, on both sides. Telephone calls, emails, etc...all at $6.00 a minute. And yes, the answer to your question will likely run you a few hundred dollars. The reality is you are entitled to 50%, so best case you get half. Worst case, your lawyer gets half, his lawyer gets half, and you both get nothing. Isn't it grand?
Don't worry, in 15 years you will have almost recovered financially. Good times.
Thanks for reminding me. I have a bag of bussels sprouts in the refrigerator. Love them. Everyone seems to like them sauteed or roasted these days, but I like them steamed. They are one of those foods that I feel good after eating. I think maybe I have a dietary deficiency - not enough sproutonium in my diet.
And speaking of brussels sprouts, they are very good pickled. My son made some.
Quoting Noble Dust
I do like some of the exotic kinds of mustard, but sometimes, especially with a hotdog, I just want good old yellow Amurican.
The sweet American mustard dominates rather than complements my sausage.
I see what you mean.
For what it's worth, that was from the 90s. We Amuricans are much more sophistimicated now.
It also burned the shit out of my sausage.
Hot mustard burned your sausage? Was the sausage raw or already cooked?
In 15 years I will be 66 omgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
That's when life REALLY starts. 40 is the new 20, and 60 is the new 40. With a little bit of logical manipulation -- should not be hard for a philosopher lady -- you can show that clearly, 60 is the new 20. Therefore in 15 years you will be precisely 26 years of age.
That's because you really needed to wash your hands before you took a whizz.
It was raw, imho.
In 15 years I will probably be dead.
They used it in chemical warfare during WW1. I remember those days. It was harsh.
Frank!! Is that you??? I was in Foxhole 8 with you right next to the gurgling latrine pit. I'm not sure which smelled worse, the mustard gas or the fermented soldier shit. Crazy times those were!!
Oh yeah! Plus I never showered during the whole war and you always ate those limburger cheese sandwiches. Boy what a stink.
All fair game right? Either do as I say or risk being defenseless if Rissia invades.
Is this that German goose step I've heard so much about? It's less imposing than I expected.
Hey! Limburger cheese makers have enough public relations problems without you adding more.
Here's a superior sandwich:
2 slices of high quality rye bread
2 slices of onion
liver pate for medium layer on bread
limburger cheese for medium layer on bread
Serve with beer
Sadly, limburger cheese is hard to find. It used to be more common. They still make it in Wisconsin (where the state motto is "Eat Cheese or Die".
Yes, it is one of the stinky cheeses; yes, it does have an earthy aroma. Tough. Get used to it. There are non-stinky cheeses, of course but no cheese is more repulsive than Velveeta or American cheese-like product.
Do you mean two small rings of onion on the sandwich, or two entire disectional slices of an onion proper? This is a crucial distinction.
2 lousy onion rings? These wimpy philistines. Of course not! Grip the onion firmly in hand (finger tips folded under), seize a cleaver, aim carefully, and whack off 2 manly solid slices of juicy flavor. Slap it onto the sturdy slice of bread. Slather on limburger cheese and (pork liver) Braunschweiger.
Devour, and be sure to breathe heavily on any wimps who find real food objectionable.
Good. You have passed the test.
I didn't know @Hanover was into young bluegrass boys. You learn something new every day.
My favorite cheese is NY style extra sharp cheddar. Food of the gods.
[s]Have you tried vegan cheese?[/s] You haven't tried vegan cheese, or you would not make such a claim.
God help me! :roll:
OKay that is a drag to think about :broken:
I was chilling at home, surfing the net and dropping in comments in some Redditt threads. Okay my eldest indian warned me about not getting in too deep with Redditt and I stepped right in it.
I was asked to private message, and I thought sure what the hell, right? Oh my, my, do I have an answer now, NOW.
The guy had quick wit and seemed fairly friendly, but I had no idea of his age, but I quickly disclosed that I was 51 and he was like cool. I said are you of age? He said "Yes, Ma'am I am 23. I said I don't really care because we were just chatting. We were batting back challenges like guessing where in the world we each were located. He said "I am gentleman so he would give me three chances to guess, okay?" When I didn't guess it, he said would you like a hint my lady? (First flag) I said sure and I still didn't guess it. I asked for another hint to which he responded, "I am a gentleman but a strict one my lady." (Second flag)
I said okay tell me where in the world you are. He said "I'm feeling generous with you my lady. I will give you one more hint." I didn't get it so we moved onto where I am located in the world. He didn't guess it correctly the first or the second time. I said you have got one more chance. He said "Would you my lady be fair and give me a hint?" I said sure. He then wanted to know what he would win if he got it right. I said what do you think is fair? He said "I get to ask you any questions for 60 seconds, fair?"
I said okay and I will be dipped if he didn't guess my country and state. I was like damn...
He said "So I won, do I get to collect my prize?" I said absolutely.
Shoot with your questions and the first one out of his mouth was "if it would be okay for him to call me his Queen?" (THIRD flag) I said what are the rest of your questions as you are running out of time.
He said "Is it okay with you if I call you 'Mommy'?" :gasp:
Ummm NO to both of your questions. I said I have that title already and the two that call me Mommy is way more than I will ever need, I promise you.
Akward moments of silence on my part as he continued to ask for maybe in the future that I would be okay with him calling me My Queen....omg no.
Tiffers 0/ Men 2 (Shakira and Mommy dude)
Is this really necessary to go through to find friends?
I'm ok with it. I'm having a pretty good time now, and I'd like to live a while longer, but my children are all grown. I know they can take care of themselves and each other.
Hey - that Video was validated by the BBC's Anti-Deception Orifice and they say it was definitely done in southern somewhere. Ukraine? Iowa? Australia?
Lol. Iron Maiden has a nice line to characterize such situations: "Everybody's got their vice". From the masterpiece '22 Acacia Avenue".
TOBI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just shot me already and take me out of my misery!
This kid is following me around Reddit. So anytime I post a comment, he responds to me with "Hello?"
OMG! Why can't it be a guy, maybe an attorney or Professor, that is looking for something other than a stroke of their expensive ego?
Remember Marco, the guy from the Netherlands who harassed the forum a couple of months ago? I think it may be him.
Yeah I think I just caught him in a lie. The place he said he was from is different from what his other comments suggest. Now it could be that he is of x and y descent, and living in z.
OIE I cannot even imagine having to pay to an online matching group and dealing with this.
I was told to remain loveable...
Go out and see what's out there....it will be fun they said... :confused:
I thought I was lovable!!
That's not really just isolated to pay sites.
So I quit looking for dates (for other reasons, too) and concentrated on participating on their forums.
To wit, I don't think I ever got contacted by a woman on dating sites. Ever. Not even once.
I have a feeling this is where the real story lies.
My dating site experience is that you quickly realize it's a numbers game, where you have to send out hundreds of messages with the hopes of getting a few hits. Those few hits turn into fewer exchanges of numbers, which turns into fewer actual dates, which turns into a few actual relationships, which turns into a single wife. Which is how mine ended. Actually that's what happened.
Yes it's frustrating, but it does work, and it beats actually leaving your house. I found my wife playing around on my phone, which is what I would have been doing anyway.
There's an art to it, which once you master, you no longer need it, although I do find my online charm and wit helpful here, endearing me to all.
See that "endearing me to all" comment? It's comments like that that make me endearing.
I'm going to have my kids take care of me when I get older. I have an end of life directive that if I'm old, confused, unable to care for my basic needs, and have no reasonable expectation of recovery that they spare no expense in keeping me alive as absolutely long as possible, regardless of the emotional and financial burden it poses. I want to be sure I'm not deprived a single sacred breath.
I understand the pain that might cause, but I won't be aware of it and then I'll die and never know, so it won't make much difference to me.
Absolutely.
I could play the demure, secretive, passionate man of mystery that I am not, or I could relate the naked truth: I was fat.
This is where anti-natalism has it wrong....
I think that's a good policy if your children have any money. Mine don't.
Wish me luck!
It must be from almond milk. What sort of deviant milks an almond anyway?
Except that anti-natalists are the kind of people that, if they did have kids, their kids wouldn't take care of them. I guess it's like that country song - If your phone don't ring, that'll be me.
No question - I was thinking about the rest of us...
Which reminds me of the old line - if everyone you meet turns out to be an arsehole, it's you that's the arsehole. I say this because my daughter recently had a look at one of the discussions here and muttered this under her breath as she slammed my laptop shut.
How old is your daughter? She sounds quite perceptive.
Another 1997 fella! I turned 25 in April.
were you still typing at that moment?
I have two end-of-life directives:
1. Don't let it happen
2. When the time comes when End of Life is imminent and unavoidable, then refer to point 1.
I was fat too, and after being quite svelte for a few years, I am now quite overweight. This means, first, that I can empathize with your plight, and second, that I am free to call you a fat fuck. :joke:
You must have misunderstood me. I was fat, but lacked sexual favours from otherwise potential and desirable partners.
A tall, willowy blonde walks into a bar. Sits down, orders a drink. Everybody is hushed, she's quite the woman. Attractive. Finally a short-ish, but otherwise fat and middle-aged, balding, sweaty-type guy gathers up all his gumption, walks up to her and says, "hey, lady, what do you say to a little fuck?" She looks at him, pats him on the head, and says, absent-mindedly, "Hi, little fuck!"
So long as you don't mind if I call you Little Fuck. :razz:
I have one more anecdote to spare. But I'll spare you for the time being.
Guy driving home gets a call from his wife. She says: "Darling, be careful. I've just heard on the news there's a maniac driving the wrong way up the motorway." He says: "What do you mean 'a maniac'? There's hundreds of them."
Looking forward to that
Lose weight, find someone, gain the weight back. Duh.
Worked for me!
Bin der, dun dat.
Great Assholes think alike.
Well, I am lying a bit. As in I'm fibbing. I lost the weight, and it did not quite do the trick. The clincher was that my cardiologist (you got to have one, if you want to be somebody) prescribed hormone replacement therapy for me.
That changed my whole world. It gave me some immediate difference in muscle structure, in posture, and I bet in the way I looked at people. I was still short, but for some reason I became noticed again, by women; they started to give me the time of day again. It could also be that I produced pheromones again in larger quantities. (Haha, I said 'tities'.) I don't know.
Then I met my lover. Seven years ago. Maybe six? Eight? Who keeps count?
Yes, the only lover so far who loves me, and not only for sex. I actually don't know why she loves me. I asked her once, and she was unable to give me an intelligible answer. We are both stumped.
I stick with her now, because love does not come with every scheduled delivery of plexiglass dividers.
I'm leaving the house now. Can I deliver tomorrow? If your curiosity allows you to survive 'till then. By "deliver" I meant the story, not from evil.
Good lord, someone needs to update me on this...
The gym guy and I still say hi but it hasn't advanced beyond that. However there is a guy, about my age, who does that single large wheel that you roll down on your knees until it's out in front of you and then back to his knees.
My heavens he isn't strikingly gorgeous but the imagination needn't wander far with muscles that can perform that move.
No problem. I await your wonderfully immersive and entertaining story with great anticipation.
You good?
I found the man for you:
Can you?
Can he do this?
I'm sorry to know that you are going through rough shit but I do know that I wouldn't leave my mate either because at the time, I could never have imagined life without him.
I'm going to keep you and your family in my prayers.
God's speed to you :flower:
Can't the two of you just live off the proceeds from here?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXMTyMcgQS8/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
If he wants to leave, I am sure we could accommodate, right?
We have been living in this home on the internet for how many years?
I do believe we have a balance due...
~sighs
I could see it as the 12 days of Christmas countdown...?
I do find it quite ironic that we go before the judge on March 15th, "Steak and Bj" day.
Such a rich reply! Full of wit that I should behave on :cool:
Ugggggggggggggghhhhh :shade:
A wanking calendar brings OCD to a whole new level.
I could put both of you on the same account and you could do a 2 for 1 deal.
Just let me know when you want me to get it going.
I'm game now
In the seventies those who were promiscuous, could live it out, without any repercussion by social standards. STDs were kept at bay, until of course Herpesvirus Hominis reared its ugly head, and soon after, when AIDS hit the single's markets.
I did not practice promiscuity in the seventies; I was too little a boy, immature, an immigrant, runnin' scared. But come the eighties, I found my niche: I joined a "meet-and-greet" club in a church. They had started to run a singles club, to encourage the church members to find compatible mates and settle down. The plan backfired: the singes in town used it as a musical-chairs sort of meeting ground.
I was the youngest, and I did not mind, I enjoyed the company of older women. I dated several in the club; in fact, I went after all of them, with a gusto, and I only did not date those who refused me. Some women became lifelong friends, some, lifelong enemies.
There were of course some permanent cliques, like in all loosely associated social organizations. I was one of the lone wolves; people actually laughed behind my back, or were jealous, or indignant, or fearful. Because I had a handful of ladies to date. Some people were supportive of me, because they saw some potential there. (No pun intended.) Intellectual, social potential.
Some ladies (at that time you could not call them ladies; you could not call them women; you could not call them dames; you could not call them females; anything you called them, there were some in the group that took exception to the collective noun used) hated me at first, and therefore they refused me; then they hated me even more, when I never asked them out again.
As all things in North America, this club had its heyday, then its decline, and finally it folded after a twenty-year run.
Many years passed, and I bumped into one of the ladies that did not like me along with the other members of her circle. We were on talking terms, nothing hateful, we just did not mingle. She told me they had names for everyone; they called the guy who danced by stomping his feet the exterminator; the lady who was popular the scarlet lady; the pipe-smoking guy the wretched-mouth. I asked her what my nickname was. She said, "The Fucker."
And boy, was it ever apt.
It is a derogatory term, yet I wear that nickname with distinction.
On a sadder note: most of my dates have passed on. On the average, they were twenty-some odd years older than I. I've been checking the obituaries, and there was one year back about six years ago when four of them died, and each one had old age dementia. According to the obits, which their children must have written, they were so out of it that they could only smile in the last few years of their lives. They had lost all their language skills. These four were highly trained professionals, with their children spanning an even more spectacular career path.
True enough, one could have lots of sex without becoming an outcast -- at least in many circles. In some circles you'd be an outcast I you didn't. There were enduring and significant health consequences, however. STDs are not a picnic. Syphilis can still be cured with penicillin, but gonorrhea has become immune to penicillin and requires larger and larger doses of newer antibiotics to cure. There are now multi-drug resistant strains of gonorrhea.
For many people, HPV was a non-event--like me, for instance. Didn't know I had been infected until 30-40 years later when I developed throat cancer caused by types 16 and 18 of HPV. Fortunately it is more easily cured than smoking related cancer. When I was working in AIDS education I often talked to people about HPV, not knowing I carried those two types. Hepatitis B can be quite bad (I know from experience) and Hep C has the unfortunate habit of causing liver cancer.
Chlamydia has become a bigger deal, especially after a fast test was developed to detect it. It has more serious consequences for women than men.
Some gay men developed recurrent cases of intestinal parasites. (Let's not go there.). Treatable, but unpleasant. Worms are endemic in developing countries, not so much in Manhattan. I never had them.
Then AIDS, of course. HPV, herpes, shingles, and other viral infections that had been dormant often flared up in people with AIDS, some of them causing a lot of misery on their own. AIDS had been circulating in the 70s. It's still out there, though there is much, much less excuse for anybody to become infected now, as opposed to 40 years ago.
The beat goes on.
This is a consequence of not dying young. The older you get, the fewer of one's past dates, flames, friends, lovers, spouses, fellow workers, worst enemies, etc. that are still on earth.
I was diagnosed with non-specific urethritis twice. They were STDs, but for some reason I got them for different reasons. I told both partners, and they went to the doctor and had a clean (negative) test.
Now I need to be very careful with hygiene, because I take a pill (among many others) for diabetes that allows the liver to NOT retain sugar in the blood stream. That makes the urine prone to bacterial diseases, since the urine is full of sugar, which microbes just LOVE to feast on.
As far as I know I have never contracted any different kind of STDs, oh, yes, except for recurring things on my lips, which is clearly Herpes. Got it from a girlfriend, whom I dated for about 6 months. Another gf of mine had Herpes, but we used protection because of that.
Herpes has a tendency to appear less and less often, and it is only infectious when it appears. I haven't had an outbreak on my lips now for at least 5 years now, while in the beginning I'd have them as often as 4 times a year. People call it politely "cold sores", but those people just don't want to face the music.
I drove taxi way back when for two Russian Jewish garages. And I lived in a rooming house with a Russian Jewish landlord.
All these three people whom I was in a dependent relationship with, abused me. Not physically or sexually, but financially and any other way they were able to.
None of these people were aware that I was Jewish too, because my last name is typically Hungarian, not at all Jewish. Dad was an RC Christian.
So... question (which they did not teach us in school) : do the Russians, esp. Jewish Russians, have something in for the Hungarians? I would not be surprised if this dated back to WWII, as Hungary sided heavily with Germany then, and we fought bitterly on their side against the Red Army.
Also, 1956 could have been a sour spot on Hungarian-Russian relations. Hungarians assume it was one-sided, but it could very easily have been reciprocal.
Any insight in this matter will be welcome.
This has been bugging me for decades now.
I am sorry about your mistreatment and your continued bitterness, but I have no idea. I know one Jewish Russian family and I see them quite often. They're well-travelled, know a lot about the world, and they're basically liberal. It's quite possible that they have an opinion on Hungary, but so far it's never come up. Maybe I'll ask them about it when I next see them: "hey, a guy I know online wants to know what you people have against Hungarians".
Ha ha ha!! Brilliant point. The beauty of knowing people off-line is that it's so much harder to apply sweeping generalisations when confronted with a real human being in front of you. I was sharing a dinner with a Palestinian and discussing the two state solution. I never thought to ask him - "Why do you people keep trying to murder Jews?"
I know I do have paranoid tendencies, evident ever since childhood; but this is not one of them.
Not sure if that's true, but if it is, it seems to have worked.
My nickname was The Jackhammer. I just gave it to myself.
Reminds me of a song:
Maybe you were annoying. That's been my Achilles heel.
possible.
EDIT: Hungary, I assume. I know nothing about the Russian presence in Hungary in Soviet times or later, aside from the brutal crackdown following the uprising in 1956. Safe to say that some Russians probably didn't have much respect for local concerns or, I guess, local people.
When I was a wrestler, my nickname was "Killer." People would say "Hey, Killer," and then laugh.
Let's face it, that is everyone on the forum's Achilles heel, although calling it that is probably giving it more dignity than it deserves.
Question - Should it be "everyone on the forum's" or "everyone's on the forum?"
I'm sure they were laughing with you, not at you.
When I was a volleyball coach, my nickname was ________.
When I was a pool boy, my nickname was _________.
When I was a gynecologist, my nickname was ________.
When I was a sheep farmer, my nickname was ___________.
I think "Jackhammer" works well in all these examples.
:rofl:
Deep dive works too.
Fortunately I didn't have everything I described. Oddly, I've never had herpes simplex (cold sores). I've had nonspecific urethritis and it appeared years after the last contact with anyone, a testimony to enterprising bacteria. Urinary tract infections can be hard on older people, producing disorientation, pain, fever, malaise.
Quoting god must be atheist
I would think the sore spot for 1956 would be the other way around -- Hungarians having a major grudge against the Russians, Jewish or not.
You guys scare me sometimes.... :rofl:
How in the hell am I ever going to meet a guy that even comes close to measuring up to the standards you all have set?
I am serious!
It's all talk and no trousers on this site. Your dogs will give you much better advice, and probably hold you to a higher standard.
Thank you.
Reminds me of a legendary champion at our local chess club. He was a strange fella, but cool, especially compared to us, nerdy chess players wearing glasses. He played an adventurous style of chess too, attacking play, tactical, not always correct but keeping on the pressure.
When he would see is opponent in a difficult position, in the silent room with only the ticking of the clock he would go: "That's why they call me... Overkill!" Or "That's why they call me.... Hardball!" With a rather booming voice startling everyone. Totally illegal of course but because he was a funny and cheerful guy he got away with it. He left the club after a couple of years and I heard he became known in the local arcades as "The Mortal Combat God".
Yes, that's why I thought of the non-obvious... that perhaps it was reciprocated.
Canada. It all happened in Canada.
A literary critic once compared me to Shakespeare. He wrote, "This guy ain't Shakespeare".
I don't know. I should have thought that it should not be so hard to find a middle-aged, balding, fat and sweaty white privileged fat slob with a foul mouth living in his mother's basement, who verbally abuses everyone around himself. But hey, I never been a woman, maybe these sort of guys are really, but really, hard to come by. Oh, and herpes. I forgot the herpes. He's gotta have it.
When I was a volleyball coach, my nickname was The Coach.
When I was a pool boy, my nickname was fuck-boy.
When I was a gynecologist, my nickname was yewww.
When I was a sheep farmer, my nickname was Dr. Pasteur.
I still have the suspicion that that country does not actually exist... Perhaps it is a figment of our imagination, or worse, we have been indoctrinated with Canadianism, thinking that it is a place that actually exist, whereas it really does not...
[i]dicens, advena fui in terra aliena.
[Moses] said, I have been a stranger in a strange land.[/i] :flower:
Here's your problem - the correct country name is not "Canada," it's "Canadia." Lots of people get that wrong. Confuses things. Many people think the North Pole is just north of Angle, Minnesota.
Ouch, that's woof.
I guess their national anthem changes depending on what the authorities like us to think about that place. Usually it seems to be benign, but with a place that does not exist, one can never really be sure. One moment Canada might become some sort of fairytale country that is held up for us to emulate, but when it suits the powers that be, it becomes some sort of Mordor I guess, Icy, with wildlings.
Quoting T Clark
Hmmm, highly suspicious. Do you have shares in Canada, or are you one of those Canadaddicts I have heard being mentioned? People that cannot get enough of Canada, but especially of telling other people about Canada in order to bring them to the fold.
You're not listening! It's "Canadia." You're like @Noble Dust who went on an on claiming that the correct name was Canadian Goose instead of Canada Goose.
Dignified, unlike the cornball piece sung to a British drinking song (Anacreon in Heaven)
O say, can you see
By the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hail'd
At the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars
Through the perilous fight
O'er the ramparts we watch'd
Were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket's red glare
The bombs bursting in air
Gave proof through the night
That our flag was still there
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free
And the home of the brave?
This anacreontic nonsense goes on for 3 more verses, by the way.
O say, the horrible tune was composed for use by the Anacreontic Society, a group of bar-fly professionals in 18th Century London. Franz Joseph Hayden attended their soiree once. [Bierce's dictionary defines "once" as "enough".]
Just O sayin.
Is Canadia at war with Eurasia?.... or.... East Asia? This is all very puzzling....
Think about it. If the US has accepted ownership of Detroit and Trenton, Canada (or whatever it calls itself) has to be even worse than those.
Who doesn't have pines and maples? Like that's something to brag about? Why don't they sing about their buzzards and rocks while they're at it?
What also is VERY suspicious is that the Canada song is written in American. Why wouldn't they write it in their own gibberish?
Because then they would be singing about Arizona. Silly :razz:
I know right. It is clearly just a hoax. Having an anthem in a language practically everybody understands... just too much of a coincidence.
Yes, all dignified and stuff with stalwart sons and gentle maidens. Elokent... elikwint...good. Give me the bright blood red glare of a rocket any time.
Moses spoke languages. Nobody understood him, since Latin came some 2000 years after he spoke it. But that did not stop him from speaking.
It's very hard for a nation to sing about something that only they have.
O Canada should have lines about prime minister dynasties, with pretty boys in line to the chair, and what else... oh, maybe clubbing baby seals. Yes, that definitely ought to be in there. What else... the longest outdoor skating rink, the Rideau Canal. OH, and the education hoax. That's one of our biggest industries. Unemployment... strikes by public service sector workers... fresh water... clean air... eagles and snow... goose and geese... dams and locks... lucks and box... ducks and you-know-what.
Although I suspect the you-know-what goes on all over the king place.
Think nothing of it. Elizabethan English didn't come along for another 1600 years, but everybody in the Bible speaks it, with a Shakespearean accent.
God who knows all things between the Alpha and the Omega apparently thought that at the time Latin was pretty good, and then 1600 years later, modern Elizabethan English was even better. That goes to show that while the Jews were the chosen people, Hebrew apparently wasn't the chosen language.
that's not unique per se... but Canada is the only country where the most expensive paintings (local production) shows nothing but snow, rocks, pines and maples. The locals lap those up as if they were maple syrup.
Canada is clean. (Yecch.) Canada has fresh air. (Ugh.) Canada has tons of clear water, blue skies, hot springs, oil wells, clean and healthy prostitutes, happy lumberjacks, smiling labour force, free medical service, expensive housing and the longest ocean shore property in the world; it has also a well-organized and prosperous crack cocaine distribution system that requires no handguns for its everyday operations. Oh, and NO democracy; we elect an absolute tyrant every four years. If we don't like the way he oppresses us or rails on us, we elect another tyrant and hope for the best.
What would America want to do with that? Honestly? It turns every American's stomach just to think of these things.
O Canada! Our home and native land!
that slop, poutine, does not come can'd.
Stale Fries, bad cheese, and rancid gravy
O Canada, let us die of poutine poisoning.
Well... it is. Even America is a part of America, while at the same time it is apart from America. Apart from The Department of Apartments, America has many compartments; for instance, the Glove.
WE, Canadians, as much as we don't exist, still have developed herd immunity to this poison. We hunt the woolly American with putting poutine in the tourist traps. Hence the name: put-in, or poutine. Like labour-labor, valour-valor, etc.
Conversely, there are many bald eagles in Canada (in British Columbia) but the US got it as its national bird, leaving Canada with the gray jay, a lowly bird in comparison.
When I was a child in Scotland, teachers and other adults led me to believe that the golden eagle was peculiarly Scottish, and I was shocked when I found out later that it's the most widely distributed eagle in the world, soaring on thermals and eating rabbits from Kazakhstan to Kansas.
Same with thistles.
Oddly, I only found out recently that the national animal of Scotland is the unicorn.
... and their national bird is the Frisbee.
Quoting jamalrob
I won't argue with you. I, as a non-existent Canadian, am unable to tell if a tree is a Bitch tree, a Maple tree, or an Apple tree. Show me a tree, and if you say it is located in Canadia, then I say it's maple or pine.
Quoting Hanover
An insider's story: we change the wording every five to seven business days. The official wording, not the la la la la part. This is for privacy reasons. We also must include upper-and-lower case vowels, numbers, and at least 3972 special characters such as the Hash (short for hash brown) and the Hash (short for hash brownies).
There are special lobby groups with huge money behind them, who compete against each other to change the words of the National Anthem to ridicule one province or another. "OH, Canada, Ontarians got acorns in their ears" or "Oh, Canada, Albertans' hockey sticks bend with the wind when they piss", etc.
Don't settle for anyone that is intimidated by your mind. Also, maybe start by looking for mostly sober guys...just a thought.
But we have options! We can vote for what type of footwear the tyrant has! Is it a hiking boot? a steel toed boot? Tap dance shoes? I mean, talk about amazing choices, what type of foot wear would you like to have step on you for the next four years? Feel the freedom!
So we have Japanese tiger mosquitoes and now a Japanese spider to eat them.
The world has many languages, but the subtitles are all in Hebrew.
They can't survive in Itstu Cold.
Steamed? I prefer them sauteed and at some point adding a dash of water and covering the pan for a few minutes to lightly steam.
I'll share my youthful tales as well. When I was a laddie back in Scotland, we were of a most modest income, my father earning barely a farthing per fortnight as a street urchin exterminator. My kilts were all tattered and far too short, leaving my burgeoning manhood peeking menacingly just beyond the hem. My repeated vigorous attempts to subdue it only provided temporary relief, so seeking a more permanent solution, I fashioned paper adorned cards with my favorite footballers' faces to cover it. Mum prepared cellophane strips dipped in molasses to affix the cards to the pendulous visitor in order to conceal it, which worked quite well and created much ado in our tiny peat covered village.
And that... wait for it...
Wait for it....
Is where Scotch tape came from.
I do like me an origin fable
Just discovered this:
No, no, children. Scotch Tape comes from Saint Paul, MN -- because Minnesotans have never been able to hold it together without it.
BTW, if the dick under your kilt was pointed the same way it is in the phallic stelae above, and not this way º|º ] you wouldn't have needed to cover anything with your two little English postage stamps.
Sauted or roast is the most common way of getting brussels sprouts these days. Those are ok, but I love them steamed with just a little butter and salt.
I've never been to Kazakhstan, but I have been to Kansas, and I ain't never seen no rabbit-eating thistle.
Looks good! How was it? Stroopwafels.
It reminded me of a warm chocolate cookie.
The texture of the cookie was wafflesque, which was odd, considering waffles typically come from Belgium, not Holland, although I'm not really sure there is a difference between the two.
Yeah, that sounds really good. Where did you get it?
Now I get it. That's what keeps Minneapolis/St. Paul together. I always wondered what kept one moving off and from doing its own thing.
Marshall's, which is where I go for all my discount needs. They have an assortment of unusual spices and foods these days.
I also bought a ceramic cat with a toilet brush in it. Snowball (the name I gave her) sits proudly beside the toilet, awaiting whatever is asked of her.
What's Marshalls? Like the store with departments? [I'm stupid about a lot of things, just letting you know]
Quoting Hanover
haha. :sweat:
That was prehistoric art depicting a prominent local wanker.
It's a US discount chain store. I think it's in Canada too, to the extent Canada actually exists.
It's strip mall based, as opposed to mall based, which means nothing to you if you're not US based. It's like TJ Maxx, but it has more random stuff there. It seems to be near Target a lot of times, which is good place to get housewares, if you're in need of that.
I'm not sure if you've ever pumped gas, but if you drive off with the nozzle in your car, it breaks off and turns off the pump. No matter how funny you think it is when you walk in with the hose and put it on the counter, the attendant doesn't.
I saw a documentary once where this lady's house was swirled up in a tornado and it landed in Canada on top of a witch and little midgets came out and danced around. It was pretty terrifying.
Oh I know those stores. I thought you're in some other place else with "Marshalls". I mean there could be a store called Marshalls that's like a supermarket.
Quoting Hanover
:sad: I've pumped gas. Why'd you think I'd never pumped gas? That's weird. I live in the US of A. :roll:
Wasn't sure where you live is all.
The cat (toilet brush and holder) and her placement.
I learned the hard way, that women like to place the toilet brush right beside the tank, shre toward the wall from the actual bay.
This is not good if you have a man in the house.
Normal men spray every which way around toilets. Not because they are rude, although they may be that, or stupid or a bad shot. It's just that urine comes gushing out not ONLY in a straight stream, but also as a spray at the same time. Therefore everything and everyone who is near a toilet when a man is facing it gets a bit sticky.
But not the toilet brush with a neat holder!! It instead collects the spray in the little lathel-like compartment that is under it. AT the bottom. Then the urine ferments there. (Kids, don't try this at home. This is a different type of fermi from wine or beer.) In little or no time, there is a brownish liquid in the bottom of the lathel; it is putrid, vividly compostatious, and vile. Once in a vile you empty it.
Fools! You have no perception! The stakes we are gambling are frighteningly high. Put... the... damnded cat and lathel away to somewhere where it better can hide.
Cat and the lathel... better can hide,
Can hide, can hide where it can hide
So just like the spraying won't be caught and collected
Can hide, can hide, this spraying this spraying this spraying can hide.
Unless, of course, there are no other persons in your household but women.
Unnatural.
To be honest, I tried it. It is cumbersome, unnatural, and... just is not right.
And it should have at least 25% dairy butter.
Nevertheless, does look scrumptious so I hope you enjoyed it!
Interesting that you say, "mostly sober". May I be so bold as to ask the theory behind it?
I really didn't think I was intimidating by my mind. Having said that, I do believe one of the biggest reasons our marriage is ending is because my desire to finish my schooling, graduate with the degree necessary to do what I want to do with my career that I willing and with no regrets, left to come home raise our family.
I thought he would see this a bonus as he has been the sole bread winner for so many years.
~shrugs~
~bratty grins~
Really? A kitty cover? :razz:
UNLEASH THE FURY OF WOMEN AS A MIGHTY FORGE FOR PROLETARIAN REVOLUTION!!!
Had no idea there were radical Marxian feminists in the neighborhood. Beaming with pride.
Have a proper urinal installed. In Toto.
Or the sink.
Not much difference between a sink and a urinal, except urinals have no hot water. Turn the water on and pissaway. Neater, quicker, cheaper.
Funnel?
or something more masculine, automotive...
But one last one:
I don't know who did this, but Kohler in Sheboygan, Wisconsin [bathroom fixture company]
encourages its designers to come up with creative designs for toilets, urinals, sink, and so forth. 99.9% will never see production, but it's an interesting project.
Was a cactus or a venus fly trap the inspiration here?
The last one looks like what the Wizard gave the Tin Man in the porno version of the Wizard of Oz.
https://www.artsy.net/artwork/hieronymus-bosch-christ-in-limbo
I was born and I was dead.[/i]
Greatest drumming ever!
I've always thought that Dali's 'Young Virgin Auto-sodomized by the Horns of Her Own Chasity' is a beguiling landscape, especially if you are sharing your home with a maiden aunt called Gemima.
A painting of your cat. Or fog-soaked, deserted city street at night. Not sure what you're like. What are you like? Your personality?
The juxtaposition is killing me.
A thoughtful choice, but I fear a bit too autobiographical.
You or me? I'm a performance artist.
This what a rhino horn looks like:
This is the alleged virgin about to be rudely and robustly sodomized by something vaguely resembling a rhino horn:
Wikipedia says:
The conical penetrator of the alleged virgin allegedly resembles a rhino horn. Was Dali a sick chicken, or just full of stool?
For International Women's Day, March 8.
Which reminds me of Ambrose Bierce's definition of the GARTER, n. An elastic band intended to keep a woman from coming out of her stockings and desolating the country.
This one will brighten up the room.
Dead Baby Shoes, 8” x 8
Relatively simple really: us non-drinkers are quite rare. So if you are ok with a mostly sober type it ups your odds of finding someone. Having said that, I am a fan of not settling for anything less than flat out amazing. Always be you, anyone that isn't cool with that can keep on walking. And it is simpler and way easier to remember as you don't have to try to remember how you behaved the last time you were out.
I have a Parkes painting: Gargoyles chasing bubbles being blown by a girl. One of the gargoyles is leaping from it's post to get a bubble. He will most likely fall to his doom as he has no wings but it has always resonated with me. My wife says it reminds her of me.
I might write that story. Hopefully it has a happy ending?
I would like to show you, but I am not able to post photos 'ere.
Simpler, but less effective. A person who changes his or her attitude, behaviour, underwear, Myers-Briggs type, height, weight and species between consecutive meetings is always more alluring than a plane person.
If a person is "plain", the opinion of the beholder, then they are with the wrong person. What is plain to Bob may be world shattering for Carl, and visa versa. If one wants a solid relationship, be yourself. If you want fantasy, break out your wallet, count your cash, and order it.
I understand you can get this at a discount, since it is slightly damaged.
Just paint it black.
That rhino looks like pastry.
Did you paint that? And do you sell your paintings?
Pastry or pottery. Not real, in any case. The jpeg file of an real rhino, horn and all, was apparently defective -- it wouldn't upload. The time budget for that Shoutbox post had been exceeded, so I settled for the fake rhino.
You like my rhino?
The body looks like an elephant. But somehow when their heads were forming, they went through some photoshop and eliminated the trunk (pesky and heavy) and ears (not aerodynamic, so they replaced with trumpet-like folds).
Very likable photo.
Yup! They run -- all four feet off the ground. That's a white rhino.
The eyes are weird, I thought only chordates would have eyes on the sides, like fish eyes are on the sides.
Any recs on where to get good blood oranges?
I have taken the bold words to heart and am carrying them with me. Thank y6u for reminding me that I have worth. :flower:
Lame self image I know but I am working on it.
Looks like someone also removed the horn so there would be no reason to poach the animal.
Rhinoceroses are chordates, as are fish, as are we all.
Looks like it must be a pup, or kit, or joey, or foal, or fawn.
If you can't get them at your grocery store, just take regular mineolas and soak them in blood. Any kind will work. I like chicken, but whatever you can find.
Geez...you are rivaling @Hanover with that recipe.
Rhino tusks pulverized is sold in China as an aphrodisiac. It commands top bucks.
:fire:
If someone responds to one of my posts with this, does that mean they agree or disagree?
What if I can only find Cara Cara oranges?
agree
With Cara Caras, you have to use duck blood.
Quoting Noble Dust
Thanks.
Damn, duck is expensive. And not easy to work with.
:fire: Burn in hell??
Or.... you totally nailed it
Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff
So, it means I agree with you, but you should still burn in hell. Makes sense to me.
I am as confused as you.
Who put it up?
No particular instance in mind. I just see it around and keep wondering what it's supposed to mean.
"What does Fire emoji mean? The fire emoji is a flame that is mostly yellow with a little red on the top. It is used to signify that something is cool, awesome, exciting, or more colloquially, “on fire.” It can also convey that someone is sexy, (i.e., hot), or refer to other various metaphorical fires."
That makes sense. I think I'm confused by the fact that to flame someone is to say something unreasonable and very harsh about them.
I think it's rather strange though that it says something is cool...
I think you are giving too much weight to meaning.
I haven't seen Banno around. I just checked, he's been active within the last hour, but he posted last 15 days ago.
Does anyone know what's happening with/to him? I hope he's okay and healthy.
haha! Except the owls. :razz:
Quoting T Clark
Yeah I know. That's a baby. But still.
Right. Puzzling.
Birds, including owls, are chordates too. All vertebrates - fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds, mammals.
Seriously? Wow.
We are drenched = tears of the gods? They are overdoing it for sure.
Vision
Quoting https://www.wildlifeonline.me.uk/animals/article/squirrel-senses
The gods certainly fool around there. First fire, now rain. What's next? Boxing kangaroos?
I've reached out to @Banno to see if he is doing okay.
:flower: GMA.. Thank you for caring :flower:
It's going to rain chocolate! Please! :pray:
And lets pray they don't spray it in fire. Though a river of molten chocolate taking the bed you sleep in out of the house is not a too bed vision...
Yessss!!!
Such a sweetheart you are~
Guys lock horns. The strongest wins. Ladies smooth things out. They solve the problem of differences by making everyone to calm down take a deep breath and relax.
Thank you for being genuine. I am having to rebuild my life and I am glad you are a member of the family for me to lean on in times of weakness.
Today I am grateful in more than one way in regards to surviving this chaos we call life. :flower:
I reached out to Banno and he and his lovely wife, both who are very dear to me, and they are doing well. Banno gave me permission to say that he is doing good just taking a break. Appreciative of being part of our family here. :heart:
Tiffers :flower:
(Banno's lap dog) :sparkle:
Good one! Squirrel eyes are one heck of a pair of eyes. They're big for their head, and very bright. So makes sense.
Watch yourself praxis, if I growl it's because I am not afraid to bite. :shade:
Oh, you think my little joke was a dig at your current situation? I’m a horrible person but I’m not that horrible.
I didn't think you were that is why I warned. :sparkle:
I'm quick to react right now because I am in Warrior mode and it's getting pervasive. I cannot wait until I take off my armor and just be me.
Tom Petty said it best.
They're beautiful.
Did they go out of style?
But you're saying they're back in style?
Four Saint in Three Acts is odd as opera, odd as just about anything. Not unpleasant, just very Gertrude Stein (the librettist). Virgil Thompson wrote the score.
Here: Pigeons begins at 1:24
The comparison makes sense in one way. "Rats" is a harsh term for pests. And you know the meaning of pests -- they're in abundance with little to no use at all (not beauty, not purpose) except to increase ugliness.
Some people are annoyed with pigeons -- the sound, the sheer number, and the droppings.
I remember a nature photographer/traveler who commented on the penguins in the Antarctic. We only see the neat, cute pictures on magazines and calendars, but never the hundreds of dead penguins lying around on the ground, the island littered with dead penguins.
Sorry, can't comment on the opera.
So "Lo How A Rose" is back in, right? I'm confused.
As to the community, you're right, the philosophers are a big family with all the accoutrements of such a thing, including diversity, animosity, accord, harmony, screwing, loyalty, betrayal, abuse, love, support and moral guidance.
So this 16th century hymn has never had the opportunity to get run into the ground by Muzak, radio, television, streaming, etc. It doesn't have the melodic triumphalism of Joy to the World or Adeste Fideles and like carols. O Come Emmanuel, another very old advent hymn, has also not been played to death.
It seems to me that Praetorius was Lutheran, and he wrote it for a German text "Es ist ein Ros entsprungen".
I was just making shoutbox jokes, but yes, Lo How a Rose is one of my favorites too. There's an absurdly slow version, I think performed by either the Robert Shaw Chorale or the Dale Warland Singers, but I can't find it on youtube (it used to be there). I love the hymn regardless, but the slow version was hypnotic.
There's a whole load of other favorites I grew up with... "I Saw Three Ships", "Jesus Christ The Apple Tree", "Lullay My Liking"...
What goes round and comes round? Well, a soccer ball, of course. Or a water melon. Or a bowling ball.
Anytime my friend. Anytime. :flower:
Are you kidding me with these on line dating platforms being legit?
It is full of guys wanting one thing.... good lord....and I am PAYING for it? :roll:
I never liked hunting all that much, but dove hunting was the best of the bunch. Can't start shooting till noon (dawn for ducks). Nice fall weather (sleety winter for ducks). Easy access across farmer's fields (wading waist deep through cold, rough water for ducks.) Taste good (dry, tough, and gamy for wild ducks.) Just give New Yorkers (or Parisians) shotguns and let them have at it.
Long talks about philosophy I suppose.
A deep and meaningful relationship based in love and mutual respect, no doubt.
Not sure exactly why this came to mind. Maybe your and my shared history.
Back in the mid 1970s, I lived in Cambridge Mass. There was an alternative newspaper called "The Phoenix." Good paper. Good writing. Good restaurant reviews. Really good personal adds. Talk about shocking for a naive small town boy. One Christmas I used the personals as wrapping paper for presents to my family back in southern Virginia. The wrapping was more popular than the gifts. At least those adds didn't try to hide motivations.
And gettin' caught naked in the rain with a butt plug
If you're not into missionary
If you have less than half a brain and big boobs
If you like havin' sex at midnight
In the dunes with duck tape
Then I'm the sex slave you've looked for
Write to me and dominate
Don't really like pina coladas. Too sweet.
What do you mean, "not legit"? It's proof that it's legit. If it were any other way, it would be fake.
Come to think of it... in effect, those guys who take you expensive restaurants, talk about opera and watch the ballet with you, and root for your kids' hockey team, quote Confucius and Goethe in their original Sanskrit, and say long and meaningful grace at dinner, are also wanting one thing. Essentially.
Fortunately for her, neither Goethe nor Confucius wrote in Sanskrit, so that's one less thing for her to worry about while that roaming hand is on Tiff's thigh. On the other hand, one wants to see some sign of erotic interest -- otherwise, sign up for college classes via video.
I like this as alternative sex replacement therapy. Other therapies to replace sex in your life may include, but not necessarily and the list is not comprehensive:
- pondering whether there is a God
- thinking if there is free will or not
- what is consciousness and does it have our bodies, or our bodies have it?
- what is the meaning of life
- what is the definition of life
- what is a good way to live a life
- twenty years to life with no parole
- do we all see green as green
- who created the world and what on earth were they thinking
- do things cause things, or are there spontaneously uncaused things happening?
Lamed Vav Tzadikim
Good to hear. I was wondering too.
They don't just want one thing, but there is one thing they all do want. That's not the problem because you want that to. The problem is that you don't want what they want from them.
They're playing the quantity game. You're playing the quality game. Eventually there will be a match. They'll be like "finally someone responded" and you'll be like "finally someone who has a job. "
If I was king of kings, that's how I'd arrange the world. In fact, since that suggestion is so clever, it's likely I'm one of the secret holy 36.
I think there are around 8 billion dickheads. You have to be Jewish to know the exact number.
It has to be in an increment of 18 I'd think.
Given how much those Kabalaists use numerology, it probably should be 18 to the 18th power = 3.93464080753e+22. Given that it is estimated that about 100 billion (1 x 10+11) people have ever lived, there's room for plenty more of those guys.
HGT happens in the components of lichen (a fungus and alga or cyanobacterium.). That means a fungus may end up with some of the genes of an alga (the two being bound by mutualism, commensalism, or parasitism, depending on the species of lichen).
Plus, lichen have survived for 34 days under Martian conditions in the Mars Simulation Laboratory maintained by the German Aerospace Center.
That joke use to kill.
There are 203 cardinals. If you subtract 18 from that (the Hebrew number which represents life), you come up with 185. The prime number breakdown of 185 is 5 × 17. If you add 5 + 7, you get 22, which is 11x2, which If added equals 13. Thirteen is the unluckiest of numbers.
This is spooky.
Shit. I was thinking the same thing. In first person singular, not of you.
If you think that's spooky, try this:
Take the definite integral of Sin(x^sin(x)) between .4 and Pi. Then subtract the possibly correct number of hydrogen atoms in the unknown universe. Given that number, divide it by itself, multiply it by 4, add 9, both 4 and 9 being squares of prime numbers, and you get the same result: 13!!!! Fucking amazing.
What do girls call a mushroom with a 12-inch stem? Same punchline.
Let's define a new property, we'll call it the offensive stupidity ratio, OS. We'll also define two properties O1 - the extent that a joke is offensive because it is socially unacceptable, and O2 - the extent that a joke is offensive because it is stupid. Both O1 and O2 are measured on scales between 0 and 10. OS = O2/O1, rounded to the next highest integer. Note that OS is undefined for jokes that are not at all offensive because they are socially unacceptable, e.g. anything from Readers Digest. Typically, any joke with an OS greater than 1 would be considered "Lame."
For the joke you provided, we will calculate the OS:
O1 = 3
O2 = 10
O2/O1 = 3.333...
OS = 4.
Good point. I'll add another condition to the definition of OS - it is undefined if the joke is meaningless. There, now you're all set.
Better idea: Just subtract all 203 cardinals.
Account deleted at his request.
May I ask why a forum member would request an account to be deleted?
I mean, why not just stop logging in to the forum?
I assumed it was at his request. GT was one of those posters who forced me to think twice about what I was sure of and whether my arguments were good enough. He also helped me learn, again, that some fights aren't worth the trouble. I don't mean this ironically.
Ohh, come on what's wrong with that?
GT was a feisty guy. He probably wanted to make a point.
5 X 37. Bloody amateur numerologists. :sad:
I found from his arguments that he carried lines of reasoning to a point, correctly; and he stopped there and it was impossible to move him onto following a still proper continuation of the same line. It was quite annoying how he thought a lot like me, but was adamant in defending the simpler, wrong versions of the same thing that I believe in.
I don't think he was intellectually limited. I think he was emotionally too committed.
He seemed like a smart guy.
I agree. I just think he was intellectually lazy, while intellectually gifted.
I see the attraction. If one were to decide participation here was bad for oneself, removing ease in responding to comments would help in following through on such a decision.
Yeah, I can see this happening. If one is a fervent poster like GT was, that's a way to go.
I am not very fervent but am not sure about continued participation. I am glad to know that one can cancel the account if desired.
Any idea what happened? I enjoyed his energetic contributions. His level of commitment was impressive, even when I didn't share those commitments. I did wonder if he was going to burn out.
The flame that burns Twice as bright burns half as long
-
? Tao Te Ching
"It's better to burn out than to be forgotten"
--- Neil Young
I think Mr. Ching took some honorarium for every wise statement he gifted mankind with. Therefore it must be that it was the grateful posterity of his heritage in heart of his followers that gave him his cash-register sounding name.
Killjoy.
Quoting god must be atheist
No one knows if that's his real name. Maybe Lao Tzu. But yeah, it has a ring sound to it.
I assume it was just his way of telling us all to go fry ice.
No, I literally meant what happened. Was there an argument, did he cross a line? I haven't read anything by GT for some days.
I don't know. He wasn't banned. He quit.
Ok. Fair enough.
I found a number you can factorise in two different ways. Yay! Oh. Hang on. Um, hold on a minute, no. Sorry.
I had to look this up. No. I don't even know what an 'action role-playing game' is... I played Monopoly a couple of times in the 1970's...
Back in the da we discovered a forum law: "The drama of the exit is positively correlated to the speediness of the return", or something like that. So probably he will be back.
Seemed. Indeed. But he didn't go further than telling memories are just integrated in brains, consciousness is material (hence his thread about the unequivocal triumph of neuroscience), and links to dubious articles, some of which are interesting. I tried starting an understanding in the way he wanted, but he didn't further the invitation. He was a depressed Christian once. Maybe that's something to consider. Ah yes. And evidence. It was asked for many times.
How is it possible that the very two people who saved Cosmic Wankers life do not speak to him because of his behavior?
After answering that, which seems pretty complex but simple, right?
Tell me WHY the fuck I am crying unable to stop.
I am sooo done with this...
I can't get his voice out of my head just ruminating all the horrible things he said, how they cut me and my youngest who Cosmic Wanker now refers to us as "we" or "you two" and .....I am supposed to sit in mediation with him? Isn't there an easier way out?
Maybe I should have just walked out and whatever came my way would be enough?
Damn I DESPISE showing weakness to him like he can hear me crying now ...I was outside but I am getting sunburn. I just need to make it through this weak momeent..
Glad to see this is now open for new comments or threads, thanks @jamalrob
To take my mind off or on reality, I started wondering about how some people cope with crises or challenging situations by writing. Then I thought of this place and all the wonderful authors who seem to be AWOL. Have you escaped into your stories?
I'm not sure, yet, how short stories can be posted as new discussion threads.
However, I'm sure that someone will come along soon and post one just to show how easy it is.
Please :pray:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/categories/40/short-stories
Now I do. Thanks to @jamalrob:
Short Stories, here:
Quoting Amity
Unless I've set the permissions wrong?
EDIT: Ah, forget it, wrong thread.
:grin:
My fault for spreading the word all over the place.
Well, at least nobody can now plead ignorance :wink:
Personally, I cannot remember the names of any of those that got banned. But I do remember a few that just never came back.
Or did I? I'm thinking ... you know how the Italians, and their servile bootlickers, will aggressively attack anyone who claims to be making spaghetti carbonara but uses cream, or bacon instead of guanciale, or parmigiano reggiano instead of pecorino Romano, etc.
Could the same apply to the American classic, the grilled cheese sandwich? I made mine without slathering the outer surfaces with butter (trying to stay relatively healthy), using non-white bread, and without a big pickle or ketchup on the side. Does it count?
Oddly, the grilled cheese sandwich didn't exist in Britain until the early 2000s. Before that we only had "cheese on toast", and then toastie machines appeared in the 1980s. Nobody knew you could just fry the damn thing in a pan. It was my Canadian girlfriend who showed me the way, when I was in my thirties.
You gotta be kidding me.
Been around since time immemorial; the Ancient MacDonald Clan of Scotland claim to be the first.
But I think they stole the idea from a visiting Italian dignitary, under torture.
His bare bum held close against the open fire also gave rise to the pattern/colour of their traditional tartan.
Talking about the pesky Italians; their clans and odd ways of thinking.
From: https://philosokitchen.com/mozzarella-in-carrozza-traditional/
So, did you stay long enough with your skilled Canadian girlfriend to discover her ancestry?
And damn those Scots who sailed the seas to America and sold their very souls... :naughty:
Now, the world suffers and Russia is left bereft as the McDonalds lift their Golden Arches and flee.
McGregor, like half of my own family.
Quoting Amity
I confess I didn't realize people actually positively loved the food they sell there. I thought it was just for convenience when you want something hot, quick, and cheap. Then I saw the long queues the other day and thought, "oh".
Wow. Have you traced your family history or that of the clans?
So much inter-clan warfare. Not so much about the fried cheese sandwich but of land and names.
I know a little about the battles between MacDonalds and the Campbells. The former being mine, as far as I can tell; the latter being that of a male friend. A long time ago.
But now I learn this:
Well, I didn't know that.
But if you hail from the McGregors...well done you, child of the mist.
You will know the stories? Perhaps not.
Raise your kilt if you're a Campbell! :naughty:
A lowly sheep stealer and proud of it!
But no, I don't regard the history of clan warfare and squabbling with any affection or sense of belonging. And when the chiefs finally modernized they just took the money and fucked over their regular clan members. It's a nasty history, but they did leave behind some nice castles.
Ah well. Life moves on. Cheese toasties an' all :cool:
Christ on Toast!
A work of art in embryonic form :cool:
Putin in Marmite or just plain Scorched?
Something you made earlier?
Yeah Toast!! :starstruck:
Toast Cartoon Song (French Toast included) - Heywood Banks (2:35)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKD9V80ubGY
Tomato soup goes with the grilled cheese sandwich and you are supposed to dip it in there. I've not eaten it with ketchup. I suppose ketchup is just a thicker form of tomato soup, but it's cold and there is something important about the dipping soup being hot.
I don't slather the surface with butter because it tears the bread. I put the butter in the pan and melt it and then allow the bread to soak it in while it cooks. You need to smash the cheese sandwich into the pan with your flipper thing in order to properly flatten it and melt the cheese.
If you're making a bunch of them, you should expect to burn a few here and there while you go to feed the cat or run to the mailbox. It's up to you whether to eat the burned ones. They burn really quick.
I put jalapenos in mine, but not just a couple. You want to make it difficult to eat. I'm not sure why, but that's how I've always done it.
Chips make a good side for this meal, but it's important for the Brits to know that chips are crisps and not fries. If you make fries, you've spent far too much time on this meal and your sandwiches are going to be burnt to hell, much like the charcoal muffin you took a picture of above.
While lots of butter on white bread is important, the most important, the only truly indispensable feature is the cheese - it must be American cheese. Velveeta is ok. Pickle is not needed. Ketchup is sacrilege. On the other hand, my wife grew up eating them with maple syrup, which, while also sacrilege, is at least interesting.
Maybe the ketchup thing was a Canadian idiosyncrasy. As for maple syrup, I was dismayed to see the Calgarians pouring it on bacon.
I'm sure there is a good historical reason for that. If they were in psychoanalysis doing free association, and if the analyst said "maple syrup" most people, and all Canadians, would say "pancakes." In Canadia, it is against the law to eat pancakes without bacon. And, no, I don't mean so-called "Canadian bacon." In the course of eating pancakes with maple syrup, it is impossible to prevent maple syrup from getting on everything. And since it is perfectly legal to eat bacon without pancakes, maple syrup on bacon is a natural consequence.
If you need any more help understanding the cuisine of the western hemisphere, please don't hesitate to let me know. Don't listen to anything @Hanover says about it though. The American south is not considered to be part of our hemisphere. The south has been given its own semisphere - the Dixonian, sometimes called the Crackerian.
:lol: :rofl: :lol: Get outta the kitchen and tell the fire department that it is just ANOTHER false alarm.
Oh wait......let me go tell them...... :heart:
We were told about Texas and the Dixie line when looking for an apartment this past November. It is still "a" thing over there.
Here in AZ we are just trying to define that southern boarder of the Nation!
Make grilled cheese with whatever bread and cheese you have on hand; my favorite is cheddar. Butter is pretty necessary, and if you’re trying to be healthy I’d say just skip the whole project.
Incidentally, this morning I had an egg and sharp white cheddar sandwich on a NY pumpernickel bagel with ketchup. Ketchup on breakfast sandwiches are thing here, but it never appealed to me. I am a sauce man, though, so I went for it. It’s good!
In the Dixonian semisphere, the northern border of the nation is considered the Mason-Dixon Line. Since the line only goes to the western end of Pennsylvania, to the west of that the border is the border of the slave territories designated in the Compromise of 1850. Here's a link to a map:
https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3701sm.gct00482/?sp=31&st=image&r=-0.261,0,1.522,0.721,0
Here is some history of the Mason-Dixon Line.
Quoting Janet Sever Hull
Hey, @Wayfarer. See. I did the quote thing like you showed me.
Edit: I just noticed, Delaware, where I grew up, is north of the M-D Line but is included in the slave territories.
Most breakfast pork products (bacon, sausage, and those fun fingerling things) at my grocery store are available in maple flavored. I always assumed pigs were fattened on syrup.
:chin:
Humanely fattened pigs are put into a coma and fed with an IV drip of artificially flavored high fructose corn syrup until they reach the desired state of plumpness. Their virginal guts are taken out and straight-away chopped into breakfast sausage lengths and packaged up for you. Terminally fatty pig livers are squeezed directly into braunschweiger.
On the other hand, cruelly fattened pigs have to actually walk around and compete for calories in the hog trough. The competition leaves the pigs bitter and resentful, which gives them a nice flavor.
Meanwhile, the French have girdled their geese and stuck funnels down their throats through which corn mash is augured into their crops. When their livers are totally clogged, it's off with their heads and their livers go into expensive paté.
Milk? Cows are forced into unwanted pregnancies year after year and then after their excruciating delivery their secretions are forcibly and mechanically sucked out of their mammillary glands--all without permission. All that trauma gives the cows a voracious appetite and they madly run into the fields and chew up all the grass.
Vegans think they escape all that.
Strawberries are cruelly forced to grow in filthy dirt, have their runners snipped off, are regularly sprayed with toxic fluids, and then their delicate fruits are ripped off the plant, again and again. Kale is treated even more harshly.
Sounds like a perverted euphemism.
Should one day you be cooked slowly on the rotisserie and served as a main course, what sorts of an aftertaste do you expect you'll leave with the diner? Will it be smokey hints of wild adventure, salty tearful remorse and sadness, or just the bland vanillaness of someone who has spent his time in too many DMV lines?
My plan is to eat thousands of toothpicks before my demise so that I will present as a scrawny perch with far too many small splintery bones to truly enjoy.
Sorry for that outburst, but a sausage was just plunged into my soft eggs.
I wish Bugs Bunny had been there, to speak for me.
I’m a bacon guy but can tolerate breakfast links. What I don’t understand at all, on the other hand, are patties. Why do they exist?
The spicy ones are pretty good I think.
This will shock you, but sausage does not naturally come in little cylindrical packages. Inside those packages is ground meat mixed with spices and other things. You have to actually push that ground meet into little condoms made of animal intestines or cellulose. Anyway - people who don't want to stuff the meat into casings eat it in various ways - meatballs, ground meat in sauces, pizza topping, and, as you have noted, patties.
Love sausage but the high speed industrial stuffing of sausages is disgusting. Anyway, we have known for a long time that laws and sausage should not be made in the sight of the nosey and judgmental public.
:ok:
to make use of all the random left-over bits of things, originally. Then they became a thing in their own right.
Advantages of links over patties:
Advantages of patties over links:
Yes. It is one of the perennial favorites. I keep promising myself I won't get involved in them, but I usually do.
When I was in high school, there was this old country store that was still around long after the suburbs crept in. They sold sausage biscuits that everyone claimed were the most amazing things ever made. Teachers would let you skip class if you promised to return with a biscuit for them.
They were meh. The legend always exceeds reality.
Gosh, in my day you had provide hand relief for that result.
:lol:
You did handicraft school?
You're thinking of head cheese, scrapple, or haggis. Scrapple is wonderful. I've never had head cheese or haggis. Sausage is made with meat, spices, and various non-snout additives.
Non-snout or not, head cheese, a disgusting Ding an sich.
It looks exactly like a case of food poisoning. I ate some sort of jellied meat product once-and-never-again, from a Polish deli and became exceedingly ill. Ptomaine preserved in aspic. More disgusting than chitterlings.
It's just chopped meat, vegetables, and mustard seeds in aspic. Less food poisony than regular minced (ground) meat. It looks like kholodets, which is popular in Russia and Ukraine.
To be sure, it's not my favourite delicacy.
:yum:
A good immune system is one that is challenged!
I have always wanted to try Lizard on a stick.
You're right. If the story was real it would be called reality.
And you reach should always extend your overbite.
if you think the picture of Kholdets shows something vile, you should see the fish Kocsonya. (Pronounced exactly as you see it. Even if it kills you.) It usually looks back at you with its own two eyes.
I've never really understood the aversion to seeing fish eyes on the plate. Something to do with an association of eyes with faces, maybe.
https://aeon.co/essays/fish-are-nothing-like-us-except-that-they-are-sentient-beings
Mother
All of @Hanover's stories are real, but very few of them are true.
Plus we are mutually edible.
I hope not. I'm not into food so there'd be nothing in it for me. :wink:
You're still alive, though. :chin:
I suppose humor doesn’t always translate on the web.
@Tom Storm is an acetic hermit living on Ayers rock, eating 900 calories a day, and shitting rabbit pellets. Of course he has power and a satellite dish so he can participate in the forum.
Yours or mine? :wink:
Quoting T Clark
Very close, but I do eat Vegemite so the poo is more like Koala's.
I relate most to the alien itself, being a loner and somewhat ill-tempered and antisocial at times.
Living on a rock sounds cool. Good if you're the exhibitionist type of hermit.
Koala feces... It says that the ridges on the fecal matter are caused by the Koala's wrinkled sphincter. So, wrinkled sphincter, Vegemite. Ayres rock. It all fits together,
Quoting Bitter Crank
It's like the Rosetta Stone of shit...
Really?
So what do you normally eat?
I normally eat food, Frank.
Tom pulled on the package, wondering as he often did why mere plastic required so much force to open. It wasn't infrequent that his food would go flying across the room when his steady straining would finally give way to an explosion of bits which he'd then have to sweep up and sort through. .
Tim stared out the window as a cloud drifted across the moon. He washed a few nuggets that had become ensnared in dust bunnies under the cabinet.
The dog stared up at him and licked the air.
And then Tom picked up the gormless chihuahua by the tail and consumed him whole in a single angry swallow. Never could stand that dog...
I'll put you down for the alien.
Wow I feel betrayed
Which nation?
Every nation except Canada that doesn't exist and the Island of Lesbos.
Your sensitivity is inspiring. I'm thinking about feeling bad about something I said once.
Just realized it has been most of the eternity since I have posted anything. SO HERE I AM!!! WITH COFFEE!!!
I think I use different types of humor on here, which doesn’t help the jokes translate... I was being sarcastic about feeling betrayed.
But you're too nice to say anything mean.
Welcome back to the coffee club.
I think you guys should take inspiration from the Curious Case of Quick Cuddly Counselling, courtesy of the Mile High Club. Well, @jamalrob you did say you wanted to leave Moscow...
Watch and not spill your coffee, now...
I tend toward plain food, utilitarian clothes, and bare walls.
The Party is proud of you. See you at the Struggle Session.
It's a dog's job to clean up food on the floor. Their inner scavenger feels fulfilled when they find some odd edible under the cabinet.
Excellent response!
Thank you. Thank you very much.
Yep. It's actually March 15th but yeah, I was actually excited about it this year, as it was the original court date with Cosmic Wanker and a female judge.
Buhahahaha the sweet irony that could have been but no, I want to remain reasonable, as long as legally necessary.
Yes Pleaseeeeee!!! :heart:
So impressive
I’m “into” food, but wear pretty plain clothes and don’t decorate my walls...
My son is a former bartender, former butcher, and a great cook. He and his girlfriend are in San Francisco this week and they went to the French Laundry - the schmanciest of the fancy-schmancy restaurants. He doesn't have a lot of money, but he saves up and goes nice places. $350/each before drinks and tip.
As for me, just give me some chicken pahm and linguini with a glass of decent red wine and I'm happy.
But that's now all topsy-turvy gone haywire. A lot of people who are incapable of conceptualizing thoughts and are illogical thinkers opened their big mouths. The forums are replete with them, and there is no joy in fighting a Quixotic battle. This "shoutbox" has been spared so far, although it has lost a lot of the humour it once had. I shan't name names, that would be unfair.
It is incredibly hard to argue with a fool. In fact, there is a modern-age saying, "never argue with a fool for your audience may not be able to discern the difference."
Well, maybe it's the war. Or the too slow recovery from Covid. I dunno.
I nominate this as the least generous and least self-aware post of the year.
Drink it for lent. Ashes to ashes, and all that.
I feel honoured by this nomination and accept it with pride, seeing from whom it came.
You've clearly not met Peanut and Pretzel. Here they are just before going out to dinner and then to the picture show.
You could drink it with lint.
"I need a loan", was his lame lament,
so a little was lent for his low-rate rent.
Soon aught was left of the loan they sent
but a layer of lint on the bare cement.
Thoughts? Advice?
It's certainly worth a try.
Make sure you place your neck by your feet before you try it to avoid snapping your neck like a dried twig.
Helpful advice, thank you, but the ankles to ears position, while adding safety from neck fracture, creates other certain vulnerabilities.
There could be no other vulnerabilities you would suffer greater than what the sleeping hat could produce.
I spend most nights sleeping in a trailer among circus carnies, and you might imagine there could be fates worse than death.
Like twisted mind?
That was my condition before falling asleep.
Uh huh. You know it!
Yet it is perfectly acceptable for guys to think of this with a woman as .....(censoring) :zip:
Are you keeping your nuts fresh in the freezer before grinding?
So important :flower:
I don't; I heard you're not supposed to do that. :chin:
Bologna. We know you're having your coffee, extra sugar, extra cream in the styrofoam cup from Dunkies like you do every morning. We got this picture of you waiting outside a Little Caesars for you Hot'n Ready pizza.
My expertise is in making breakfast food. My dream job is to work at Waffle House serving loud drunk college kids at 2 am. Everyone must have a dream.
Come on now, I ground frozen nuts for YEARS, daily because Cosmic Wanker wanted them ground daily. Pffffffffffffttt :shade:
It started with making pony bead bracelets for the shows and finding out what they were doing with them.
When at a concert, festival, gathering and you see another with pony bead bracelets on, you can ask for a PLUR Peace Love Unity Respect handoff.
You put your hand up to another as though you are going to ^5 (high five) but palm to palm, lacing your fingers with the other person, exchanging the bracelets without losing touch with the other, usually stranger. Such a beautiful way to meet a stranger and what a concept the kids had developed.
It's kind of like trading country pins at the Olympics, those who are familiar but on a completely different level.
I have soo much faith in this next generation. PLUR :flower:
Oh I grind them before brewing, but they’re room temp.
Well, that is a photo of me, so...
I have bought the very best brewed coffee available and it was delicious. I have bought the very best beans available, ground or not, and they made delicious coffee. However, Serious question:
Do we drink coffee to obtain exceptional flavor or do we drink coffee to obtain sufficient caffeine? I suspect it is more the latter and less the former. Excellent flavor is gravy, but if we could get equally excellent coffee flavor without caffeine from brewed GMO peanuts, would we continue drinking it?
Caffeine has been a valuable adjunct to capitalism since the get go. Before tea and coffee, workers drank beer during the day. Beer tends to have a deleterious effect on workers, however, dulling the edge to diligently work extra hard, or at least go through the motions till the whistle blows. Caffeine winds up the worker and can keep him/her wound up for many hours, but not so wound up that the worker can't crash long enough to start the whole thing over again and again.
For sufficient caffeine, day-old stale Maxwell House coffee will do the trick. And it's cheap. Excellent coffee can turn into a fairly pricy habit.
Serious answer: we of course drink it for the caffeine. But some caffeine-adverse people like my mother still drink decaf on the daily.
Personally I’ve gone back and forth over the years between fancy coffee and cheap coffee. I’m not sure of the reason, other than that I tend to dip in and out of hobbies without much apparent rhyme or reason (philosophy, for instance. Couldn’t give a rats ass at the moment). These days I’ve just been overcome by an obsession to brew the best cup possible. I like the challenge and the focus on process.
As to flavor, I think really expertly made coffee from great beans really does taste great. Not bitter, mineral-driven, refreshing. Cheap coffee if fresh will do the trick, but if it’s been sitting in a pot for a long time (as often happens in corner stores here in NY), it has a gasoline quality that’s pretty revolting. I guess I’ve had too much of that recently.
Love a bacon egg and cheese, perfect hangover food. What type of cheese and bread? Important questions.
I figure they're just high all the time. Look at that smiley face.
Quoting Bitter Crank
Could be.
I'm Finnish-American and I'm miserable af.
Sweet mama that sounds good. A cup of Folgers and you're out the door.
That's strange. "Dust" is not a Finnish name.
I didn't think Clark was a Massachusettsian name either. You learn something new...
Btw, why would I be waiting outside for my Hot 'n Ready when it's...hot and ready? I just run in there, threaten to pour my Dunken on them in Finnish, and I'm out the door.
You don't seem miserable. Do you just keep it all tucked inside?
Not only do I tuck my shirts, I also blouse them. I'm not a heathen.