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It seems to me like you are doing that throughout this comment You insinuate Foolsoso4 resembles a gnostic sophist here: And there is your approval of...

The point of my post was to counter the charge against Strauss that he was an oracular figure who mystified what was there for all to see. Strauss est...

All of my other words left like deer hit on the side of the road. I withdraw from the field.

You seem to advance a view but take no responsibility for claiming it. How does likening a criticism of Strauss relate to a particular quote by a spec...

I suggest that these squabbles are no replacement for reading Plato and seeing where it goes. There is no scorecard at the end. Edit to add: You have ...

Burnyeat would have benefited from paying more attention to Jacob Klein, an important influence upon Strauss. The oracular status given to Strauss by ...

If the Burnyeat perspective is worth considering, argue it on your own behalf if it is not publicly available. I have argued that Plotinus is claiming...

I cannot see beyond the paywall on that article. I don't get what Strauss has to do with the limit of what is knowable. What I have read of Strauss is...

I don't view the differences as schools of thought as you do. The expression the "One" has a different life in different texts as do so many other ide...

Thank you for the links. We have differed in the past on what the consequences of De Caelo are on the divinity of the celestial sphere and I remember ...

Do you have a source that touches on how Aristotle's text was produced? Are you suggesting that when "Platonists" are mentioned in Aristotle that othe...

I was thinking of the difference as something Plato, the author, has two of his characters say at a particular moment. It would have been a different ...

Yes. So why was this difference not seized upon in the moment?

As it regards the current discussion of the Sophist, the statements made in Parmenides are closely linked to the other work: it is interesting that Pa...

For the Nos4ora2, all forms of exchange beyond what one body can do to another are not shown by what they seem through the evidence for them existing ...

But those are butt cheeks. The two are turned away from each other. Edit to add: I walked the boundary during one of my mega walks to avoid going craz...

More of a field of irony. The attempts at prestige are necessary and useless at the same time.

I like Unamuno for insisting upon the difference between continuing to live versus a nice severance deal when it stops.

Brooklyn as the center. The other boroughs arrayed in respectful distances from it.

Intervention sometimes takes the form of an errand. Do as you please but take care of x first. Sometimes it becomes a full-time job. I know that paren...

Starting Plotinus the Master and the Apotheosis of Imperial Platonism by William Altman. It is a polemic which I admit sympathy to before beginning bu...

Yes, that is a design conflict often encountered here.

I think the counting here is for the sake of discussing how participation (????????) in forms is supposed to work now that the Stranger has brought th...

I do not want to paper over the differences between views in Plato's time. The Stranger's depiction in the Sophist of the battle between views of "wha...

A great example of how the piano was seen as the interlocuter playing against the other players https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMq7sKePlQ0

It should be noted that Rorty made efforts to differentiate his idea from those charges. That demonstrates a general acceptance of the negativity of t...

The Stranger is saying that the sharp separation between being and becoming emerged in the battle against those who are: "dragging everything from hea...

To answer that, several features of the Sophist need to be taken into account. It begins with Socrates asking what kind of authority the Stranger will...

I think the best way to approach this is through Aristotle discussing the pursuit of knowledge for its own sake : This argument that it is okay to pur...

When Rorty says "the distinction between the past and the future can substitute for all the old philosophical distinctions", he is going to have to te...

What "naturalism" refers to is the loosest ball in this discussion. Gerson has said what he understands by that. I have been questioning the basis of ...

I ask you to consider separating what you view as a field of modern philosophy from the terrain of interpreting ancient text as carried out by academi...

I was thinking the "established interpretations" include the series presented through centuries of accounts given upon these writings. Those views cha...

In this regard, my attempts to cleanly separate history and interpretation runs into a spot of bother. The idea that ancient texts were saying somethi...

I am more familiar with Gerson as a commentator upon ancient writing than his thesis upon Ur-Platonism. He is also often cited by others doing the sam...

It does come across that way sometimes. Leaving all that to the side, the topic here is a particular thesis put forward by Gerson. How can that view b...

Your approach is very reasonable. Would you say that Gerson's thesis is a tempest in a teapot regarding the limit of philosophy? Or is there something...

I find being told to read something in lieu of a response is patronizing and consider it a withdrawal from discourse. I share your complaint.

I re-read the Perl text and I still have the same response given there: I have been reading chunks of Plotinus lately and can report that he speaks ab...

I now regret mentioning Wittgenstein because his remarks do not change my observation that Gerson is defining "naturalism" by means of Rosenberg sayin...

Yes. He made that clear in Tractatus and that thought is consistent with the following works. But he did not oppose the practice of science, only the ...

I had not considered it as difference in motivation, only as a statement about what "science" does or does not provide. I will have to think about you...

Gerson starts with: And then says: In presenting this statement, there is more than a little sleight of hand in play with Gerson joining Rorty and Ros...

Perl's use of myth echoes what I hear in Plotinus' language. My problem with this reading of Plato is that the "Theory of the Forms" becomes fixed as ...

I appreciate the reference to someone I should probably check out. I will leave arguments regarding the topic to a later date.

So, you have delved into the contents?

But that approach does not support your description of empiricism.

The Cary approach seems to consider the dynamic I proposed.

I am far from agreeing with Gerson's larger project but consider your questions worthy of response. I will think about them.

That would require re-reading Augustine yet again. I will have to think about taking on such a project. My knees hurt in the morning. I will check out...