Protagoras

@"Pfhorrest" I understand your views. As I said it's all speculation designed to bolster a materialist view. It contradicts phenomenal experience and ...

@"Wayfarer" Exactly. Scientists have had a lot of time to really explain or show this,but they just resort to asserting it as true. A real sleight of ...

@"Pfhorrest" So you didn't explain you just asserted that life is matter. Any examples of matter suddenly becoming lifelike? Any lab mixing of chemica...

Finished " the future of an illusion". Boy freud is an angry atheist in this one! Reminds me of some posters here. He admits at one point that secular...

@"Pfhorrest" But you haven't explained how matter turns to life.

@"Tom Storm" But there are foundational truths as well. They are axiomatic.

@"Joshs" With respect joshs. Why can't you explain in your own words. The word truth is used fine in my life and many others. We know what we mean in ...

And all those who say the mind is non physical do themselves no favours. Of course your desire is physical. Every time you raise your hand that is phy...

The latest from 180. More tripe. This is not philosophy,it's science based materialism. Spinoza is spinning in his grave!

@"Tom Storm" But saying we cannot access truth is still positing the myth of the Gods eye view. How does Rory justify ideas. Why the allergy to the wo...

@"Tom Storm":up: For your above post to valentinus.

@"Joshs" I agree with dewey. But a lot of those guys still believe in science. Rory may be an exception But making a truth out of "no truths" or every...

@"Joshs" I'm not conversant with those 3. Did they reject? But the main thing is what's their criteria for truth? And that's one of my points,half the...

@"Joshs" OK. But whats their criteria for truth? They are philosophers so how do they try to explain or argue for their ideas? Or are they just assert...

@"Gregory" Well the gods eye view has always been nonsense,so of heidegger says that,I agree. Does heidegger say go with your gut?

Great Post! A lot of good insights. Be good to see both read this and expand. What do you mean by independent existence? @"3017amen" @"Hanover" @"180 ...

@"Tom Storm" I think nietzsches writings are clear enough to not have the numerous interpretations that academia like to churn out. I agree partly wit...

@"Joshs" Did they both reject platos justified true belief? Are you saying that both say truth is subjective? If so,are there some subjectivities bett...

@"Ross Campbell" Well,academic philosophy sticks to appeals to authority and dialectic reason. Myself,I think a person's intuition and desire is the c...

@"Tom Storm" Of course real compassion is a tremendous virtue. Nietzsche was talking about compassion being in reality a form of asserting power over ...

@"Joshs" But the bottom line is the myth of rationality is still adhered to. Any philosophers claiming intuition or beliefs are primary yet?

@"Joshs" Yes,freud was fuelled by resentiment as well,undoubtedly. This does not mean anybody with resentment can write or thinks like these two. They...

@"Ross Campbell" Compassion would still be in the world without buddhism or Christianity. Sometimes in spite of them. Any religion is only as good as ...

@"Pfhorrest" So life just started randomly from dead matter? Sounds like a fairy story.

Yet the entire critique is still based on the primacy of "rationality". The myth of reason. And this critique is only from continental philosophy,not ...

All nietzsches works are fuelled from resentiment,it's obvious from his writings,especially from zarathustra onwards. But a lot of his psychological i...

@"Ross Campbell" OK,my bad. I wasn't saying all compassion or empathy is bad,of course not! I'm saying that a lot of what is called compassion and tho...

@"Pfhorrest" But this is just materialism. How does matter go from inorganic to organic? Which came first,the inorganic or life?

@"Pfhorrest" So your saying living things are made of matter? Is there a distinction between matter and life to you?

@"frank" But there are educated,healthy,employed people in secure surrounding who are Still religious. Atheism science and philosophy are just as much...

@"Gregory" The feel good narcissism is a staple of the east and other cultures as well. I know from experience.

@"Ross Campbell" Nietzsche is bemoaning the fact that pity and compassion are overvalued in the Christian and secular West of his time. He mentions th...

Another insight that Nietszsche had that was exceptional was in the small book after this one, "nietzsche contra Wagner. In this book he explain Artis...

@"Kenosha Kid" You think truth is the province of philosophy and or science? How cute!

@"3017amen" Hanover has spiced it up now with his last post. But i don't have much faith in 180. The man cannot debate without being overemotional and...

@"Pfhorrest" Are gluons living or material?

@"Hello Human" The problem is professional philosophers invented and defined these fallacies and academic logic. The answer is found outside academic ...

This is the one of the truer comments for a long time on this forum. Applies also to scientists. First part should be a pinned sticky. But,it begs a q...

180 claims logical fallacies from hanover yet most of his post is an appeal to authority to spinoza! And strawman and obfuscates hanover by mentioning...

@"Olivier5" So what drove it be possible? Possibility is not life. Possibility does not desire. Life is the first principle.

Nietzsches prime benefit is that he umasks the psychology of the priestly type. This type being a malevolent duplicitous class whose aim Is political ...

@"Olivier5" Glad to hear that! I would say life is axiomatic. It is a given. And has always existed.

@"Olivier5" You are assuming wrongfully that life comes from matter. You are making an unnecessary distinction between life and concious thinking. Lif...

Yet again another debate going nowhere. Mainly because 180 is overemotional and dogmatic,and doesn't engage with any charity. To be Frank,substance du...

Just Read "Moses and monotheism". A tremendous read. The best book by freud I've read so far. Shows how Judaism emphasises intellectuality,and what fr...

@"Wayfarer" As 180 would do. :up:

@"Kaveski" Be patient,try to get out and meet people in real life. I would say be careful about opening yourself up emotionally online. There are many...

@"NOS4A2" OK,so speaking can be powerful? So spoken words do have effects.

@"NOS4A2" Oration is speech. If you consider oration powerful then? The oration is speech. Speech is an act. Speech is powerful. What are you thinking...

Just finished "totem and taboo". A very interesting four essays in this book. Freuds obsession with his concept of the oedipus complex is on full disp...