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@"skyblack" Absolutely. Greed and fear are the sole factors. In fact,I would say greed and fear are one,a unity.

@"Apollodorus" Yours is a commendable use of platonism.

@"tim wood" Save your preaching for the sheep.

@"Alkis Piskas" I just did. Brevity is the soul of wit.

@"tim wood" Another who hasn't understood epistemology.

@"Alkis Piskas" Yep and yep. By pointing. By saying now.

@"StreetlightX" Is there any state in history or currently you think was just? If not,is this because any state is intrinsically unjust,or do you have...

@"Christoffer" The proof from epistemology that justifies reason as being true.

@"Jack Cummins" Obviously sometimes the law criminalises things which are not really criminal. And sometimes there are factors like self defense etc i...

@"Apollodorus" I think your summation on the tenth page of the thread is excellent. I would just add that assistance of the work of the divine is impl...

@"Apollodorus" I think in this dialogue plato is trying to show how monotheism is the correct way. His use of piety as a form,and the forms ultimately...

@"Jack Cummins" It's good to be selective about those you socialise or associate with for the reasons you gave. Those people you met who commited crim...

@"Christoffer" Nietzsche,Wittgenstein,foucault,William James,and others. So any epistemological proofs for reason?

@"Jack Cummins" These people's intrinsic personality is one that wants to control others. They enjoy deceiving,cheating,robbing and making people suff...

@"Christoffer" Typical ad hom clichéd response. Where is the epistemological justification for rationality? Have you not read your plato? The meno? Ju...

@"Jack Cummins" Well there we fundamentally disagree. Yes good people can make hurtful mistakes and even be a bit nasty at times. But evil is a whole ...

@"Christoffer" Epistemology has no foundations,no conclusions. So you just have faith in reason. In reality you are worshipping the ideological biogra...

@"Jack Cummins" I think we have to get away from the "we manifest every evil from our shadow side" thinking. A lot of evil is from evil people. I don'...

@"Christoffer" Epistemology you say? Is there any agreement or conclusions in that field of philosophy? If not,your whole post is moot. And to be hone...

@"Jack Cummins" I don't feel they are poles. I think superiority or striving for such is a sign of inferiority. Inferiority expresses itself as hubris...

@"Jack Cummins" This applies to a whole lot of people. Bang on the money!

Where is the logic and reason to prove that logic and reason are better than experience and belief? Logical positivism is inconsistent. And most athei...

@"Foghorn" That is rationality in a nutshell! A peacock trying to hide the fact it's an ugly bird,unable to rival a beautiful creature like a bear!

@"Foghorn" Because many people love to try to one up other people. It's social anxiety being medicated by trying to assert your superiority with high ...

@"Cuthbert" A lot of truth in that video!

People love to preach and be sanctimonious. Makes them feel better,temporarily. And for some this procrastinates the actual real work they should be d...

Excellent thread! People have worldviews and strong opinions,and when these are contradicted or threatened people react viscerally. The degree of reac...

@"Apollodorus" Agreed. I'm stating that neoplatonism and its concept of the One,and the merger with the one are what plato intended,rather than the ob...

@"skyblack" That is 100% true.

@"Apollodorus" I think the big thing is platonism can be used for good or evil. The same with kaabalah. Sufism is very interesting. It's amazing to me...

@"skyblack" You understand me well brother!

@"baker" Go and play some tennis or something! Don't mope around!

@"Apollodorus" Platonism is the definately the most influential system in Western philosophy and influenced the church a lot. I've read all of plato. ...

@"baker" It's not luck if you don't believe in evolution,which I don't. No,it's like saying try any of the various sports or meditation that suits you...

@"baker" Confidence is not luck. With confident people it is their intrinsic nature,hence my Buddha nature comment. Meditation and sports. General so ...

@"Apollodorus" That's good we have that in common. I'm interested in both,the psychology of religion/science/philosophy and religion itself. I was bro...

@"Joshs" phenomenology or personal experience transcends this false choice of idealism or materialism,and subjective objective dichotomy. But I don't ...

@"baker" Why should it be luck? It can't be taught. But like Buddha nature it can be nurtured back to full power. Meditation and sports helps a lot.

@"Apollodorus" I have a history of interest in religion and its derivatives,philosophy and science. Its very interesting to study the motivations and ...

@"baker" If they can do so without philosophy,what does that say about philosophers? Looks like the OP is correct.

@"baker" And what of the people who instinctively strive for happy lives,and intuitively try to do good,without hand wringing or philosophy?

@"Wittgenstein" Your looking at this too much from the media side. Look at all the ugly old men with fashion model wives and children. And look at the...

@"Apollodorus" Yes. I box,weight train,yoga and meditate. I see a lot of philosophers jumping down rabbit holes and coming to no conclusions. Just loo...

@"skyblack" Sounds interesting,though I'm not a fan of krishnamurti. Any snippets you can relate?

@"Apollodorus" I see many things as self evident. I see many problems in philosophy as being pseudo problems because of a tradition of neglecting intu...

Of course all the people who consider themselves not good looking will get triggered by this OP! But although I am devilishly handsome I disagree. Soc...

@"Apollodorus" You misunderstood my question. I'm saying you don't need reasoning to know that you exist. It's self evident.

@"baker" And what do you consider consequential?

@"baker" So,would not consider it obvious that you type on your keyboard or that fire is hot?

@"Apollodorus" Is there anything that you regard as true without reasoning? The fact you exist,does that need reasoning?