There is no reason to think that Plato would have held different views at the time. "The Platonists" is not my proposal. It is in the English translat...
The reason for my insertion is the translator's (Hugh Tredennick's) own note: Aristotle, Metaphysics, Book 14, section 1091b Tredennick actually says ...
OK, so you corrected the "28e" bit. However, I can’t find a single English translation that has “poet”. All of them have “maker”: Lamb’s translation s...
Correct. Communist Russia’s population growth dropped by more than half from 1.8% a year in the 1950s to 0.8% in 1980-1981, due mostly to declining fe...
Interesting post. A few questions though: Where did you find “Timaeus 28e”? Is this from any particular translation, or your own? From what I understa...
Correct. Plato provides his “tripartite division” of the soul by way of explanation and because it serves his purpose of comparing the soul’s three as...
Aristotle says: (A) A Cause is prior to that of which it is the cause. (B) The One is the cause of the essence in the Forms. (C) Therefore the One is ...
As I said, I was looking at it from a Platonic perspective. Of course the Good is prior to all Forms. I just don't see why the One should be a Form, o...
Sure. However, to be fair, Socrates does say that justified belief or "right opinion" (orthe doxa), though not knowledge as such, is nevertheless as g...
But it can be one, no? My point is that you choose to see the One as a “particular”. I choose not to. And I doubt that Plato does. You asked me to “de...
I think most human experience - consisting in thoughts, feelings, emotions, desires, etc. - tends to be personal and unverified by others. Unless we a...
If we are saying that religious experiences are "real", then presumably we know that they are real. In consequence, we cannot insist that "we don't kn...
The same is true of everything else, though.As per your own below statement: In normal circumstances, I think an intelligent and educated person is qu...
There is no need to explicitly mention the One everywhere. The point is to follow the logical process suggested in the dialogues. Once a principle of ...
That isn't necessarily true. If another world or dimension exists, then there may be a possibility of establishing contact with it. Otherwise, if we d...
It could be but it doesn't have to be. 1. You think. You don't know. 2. You can't exclude the possibility. 3. I didn't say "necessarily". Sure. But (1...
Well, you don't know that, do you? You only think so. Plus, the person who has been outside the cave does not necessarily know the whole truth or know...
Basic logic. Either someone has access to truth, or they don't. If they do, then they know that preaching the truth, as suggested by Tom Storm, will "...
That's why the enlightened don't go around preaching to the unenlightened. By definition, special knowledge is the prerogative of the specialists. The...
Correct. “Intellect” means the Divine Intellect. The Divine Intellect contains the Forms, the human intellect thinks or philosophizes about the Forms ...
Sure. But I’m not saying that Forms are “at rest”. On the contrary, Forms seem to be nothing more than a particular function of intelligence (in which...
That is correct. I am only saying that the Forms cannot properly be said to create - in any case not on their own - as it is the Creative Intelligence...
Good point. However, to begin with, we need to establish what is meant by “create” or, rather, who creates. The way I see it, it is not the Forms that...
Apparently, Adonai comes from the root “dn” from which “adon” that can mean “lord” or (especially in the plural adonim) “God”. For example, Joseph is ...
This is not exclusive to Kashmir Shaivism. In his commentary to the Brahma Sutra, Shankara speaks of M?y? (“Illusion”) as the creative power of Brahma...
I agree. It's hard to tell what actually happened there. Quite possibly, he does have some psychological or personality issues. I'm not excluding that...
Correct. Total waste of time, money and other resources that could be put to better use. And other powers are taking full advantage to increase the di...
I agree that this was a big faux pas as was his "debate". But I'm not sure about "dementia". I think his biggest problem was that he had no knowledge ...
Depending on the type, psychology tends to be science-oriented, but I think it should be borne in mind that psychology emerged out of philosophy and t...
Something doesn't seem quite right with the EU. It isn't for nothing that the UK got out and apparently Poland and others are beginning to have second...
That's an interesting point. I think some people consciously or unconsciously steer themselves in the direction of psychology due to certain issues th...
The OP title says "What should the EU do when Trump wins the election?" So I think it is about the EU. And the EU has close economic links with China,...
I think he is. Not (yet) militarily, but certainly economically the EU is becoming dangerously dependent on China. With economic influence, sooner or ...
1. I think that unless Biden makes some serious blunders or fails on health reasons, it is unlikely Trump will be elected. 2. Trump is less fascist th...
Of course different things are the same as others to the degree they share the same property or properties with them, and different to the extent they...
Personally, I would have preferred the discussion to remain free of any accusations. Unfortunately, given some participants' persistent claim that cer...
I think one of the factors leading to the misconception of Forms as "kinds" may be the tendency of looking at them through Aristotle's categories. In ...
I think the question of self-awareness is a very interesting one. What is "self"? Presumably, what (individual) "consciousness" identifies with, e.g.,...
Correct. For the previously stated reason(s) the answer to the question "what are Plato's Forms?" cannot be "Kinds". So, Forms and Kinds are not the s...
As a matter of fact, it was they who accused me of being "ignorant" (and of lying) and not for the first time: I didn't accuse anyone of anything. I s...
I don't think so, Mr Valentinus (Fooloso4?). ??????????? is masculine. Nothing whatsoever to do with what you are claiming there! Really?! How about t...
Well, that's where the problem is. 1. How would you say "a noble lie" in Greek? 2. The English phrase "a noble lie" is only three words. It should not...
Of course they do. However, "form" and "kind" do not seem to be the same thing. Normally, "form" refers to shape or the visible aspect of something. "...
I know how Liddle & Scott defines "?????", thank you. However, Liddle & Scott does not say "Forms are Kinds". That is YOUR statement: So, since you ma...
The sensible world certainly seems to be fairly chaotic and confusing. This is why Socrates says: I think there is an element of Heraclitus there. Awa...
We already know this. But that is beside the point. The issue is not finding a "perfect match". The issue is your statement below: If you think that y...
This is a preposterous claim. The text you provided was this: As I pointed out to you, quoting a line of 17 Greek words (!), does not amount to showin...
"Consistently" translating Kind for ???? and Form for ????? is complete nonsense for the obvious fact that meaning changes according to context! Besid...
Correct. And if he asserts that "Forms are Kinds", then he should (1) define "Kind" and (2) show that a Form is a Kind. Otherwise, his assertion is me...
Nonsense. It is the other way round. You deliberately cherry-picked Cornford which is one of the worst possible translations. As you can see for yours...
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