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Tom Storm

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The idea that religion was invented to manage our fear of death has become a cliché, probably since Bertrand Russell wrote this about it almost 100 ye...
July 11, 2021 at 11:14
Yep. This is a key point. Agnosticism is not necessarily a neutral position - it can be just as combative and critical of religion and god beliefs, no...
July 10, 2021 at 23:42
I think this defiantly happens. Good point.
July 10, 2021 at 23:40
I feel like I should be saying this to you given your responses. No matter. Maybe we can exchange views on something else later. All the best.
July 10, 2021 at 23:39
Never said you were. It was just an offer since I wanted to move on. Why be defensive? I have not said (or indeed concluded) anything about your motiv...
July 09, 2021 at 23:54
I'm so glad you are obedient. I would hate to think you had ideas of your own. :razz:
July 09, 2021 at 02:20
This is pretty interesting and I have to say I struggle to incorporate these ideas because they seem to be keeping two sets of books - which is hard t...
July 08, 2021 at 23:59
The mysterious, the numinous, the spiritual (however you may take that contested word) are all available to the atheist. As I often say, of the people...
July 08, 2021 at 23:33
I don't think it is ironic that atheism is treated like a substitute religion by some freethinkers. Religion's chief strength is community and shared ...
July 08, 2021 at 22:32
Very True. Mainly because Nietzsche is the only kind of atheist that Peterson wants to popularize. Perversely Nietzsche's framing of atheism is quite ...
July 08, 2021 at 22:05
Some Atheists operate on the basis that harmful ideas harm human beings. All myths of the Enlightenment aside, the reality is right now laws and socie...
July 08, 2021 at 21:35
No, you are missing something here too. An agnostic is agnostic about the notion of a deity. That does not mean they accept the claims of any given re...
July 08, 2021 at 21:14
But is that because you are projecting or you have a need to denigrate what you don't understand? It just sounds like trash talk. You're missing somet...
July 08, 2021 at 21:12
Not in my experience. I have met many agnostics who debate Christians fiercely, not on the basis of God's existence but on the basis of how a believer...
July 08, 2021 at 21:05
Indeed. How can faith be anything but the excuse you give for believing when you don't have a good reason? What can you not justify using an appeal to...
July 08, 2021 at 21:03
Nice. :up:
July 08, 2021 at 19:56
Thanks, I appreciate you spelling it out and agree mostly.
July 08, 2021 at 10:07
I like it. You're a poet.
July 08, 2021 at 08:19
It's hard to determine whether this idea of God as ground of being is useful or not. Always struck me that Tillich was embarrassed by Christianity and...
July 08, 2021 at 07:29
Can you expand on this? The expression (from the Gospel of Matthew) 'Ye shall know them by their fruits' springs to mind.
July 08, 2021 at 07:16
Many older people report that they feel 20 at 50. I am in my 50's and I would say I didn't start getting productive till I was 40. I am certainly more...
July 08, 2021 at 04:39
There it is. First lesson is free.
July 08, 2021 at 04:17
I have days that seem more real than others. And some that feel unreal. Our conscious experience is something that wavers and varies according to the ...
July 08, 2021 at 02:58
I like Eagleton, even if he is a Marxist and a Christian. But Dawkins is attacking the literalists version of God. So that is exactly how they do conc...
July 08, 2021 at 02:10
This is not my area but I am fairly sure I have heard people like Sean Carroll argue that the laws of physics would not necessarily apply in other wor...
July 08, 2021 at 00:31
Would the logical axioms be true in all possible worlds?
July 08, 2021 at 00:23
Just getting back to first principles - why is god or gods presumed to be necessary? Is the argument essentially: A being that necessarily exists cann...
July 08, 2021 at 00:15
Does this curious and venerable argument only apply to monotheism? Why not gods as necessary beings?
July 07, 2021 at 23:11
Phew... I thought it was just me.
July 07, 2021 at 22:26
That's a nice way of putting it and has generally been my take. Some theists consider atheism/nihilism to be a black hole of dread and an invitation t...
July 07, 2021 at 20:04
I understand where you are coming from. I guess Dawkins and Hitchens operate as polemicists so philosophical soundness or coherence isn't their thing....
July 07, 2021 at 03:17
I think that's useful. I was wondering when someone might raise this. My version of atheism generally concerned itself with a theistic position that w...
July 07, 2021 at 00:11
This is very nice. I forgot about Shelly's polemic. Last time I looked at this was the mid 1980's...
July 06, 2021 at 23:53
Really? I have never heard people use these logical conundrums as arguments against God's existence. That seems silly. What they use them for is disru...
July 06, 2021 at 23:49
I wasn't proposing it was an argument against God's existence, just a paradox/contradiction.
July 06, 2021 at 23:44
They are not arguments against God as such, they are paradoxes. Many Christians, for instance, maintain that God is maximally powerful but he cannot d...
July 06, 2021 at 23:00
Check out Rorty. If you are referring to things like the logical axioms, etc, sure.
July 06, 2021 at 22:54
Perhaps he did make a mess of it - or we made a mess of Nietzsche. I'm not sure, but there is a mess, right?
July 06, 2021 at 22:51
You need to dig deeper. It is not truth that is the problem - hence Rorty's view that justification is achievable in a range of areas. He is saying Th...
July 06, 2021 at 22:48
Rorty says that we know how to justify ideas, we just don't know anything about capital T truth - this being a remnant of Greek philosophy and monothe...
July 06, 2021 at 21:48
There's no question that this is true. But this unfortunate fact is misused by people constantly to drown out the idea that there may also be (as ther...
July 06, 2021 at 21:44
I've already stated my belief. Putting it in the negative makes no discernable difference so it is true that I believe there is no God.
July 06, 2021 at 21:35
I have heard no reasons to accept the proposition that a God exists. So I don't believe in God. But I cannot say that I know God does not exist. Show ...
July 06, 2021 at 21:16
There are many readings of Nietzsche; who knows? Compassion is not so unusual - the version I prefer is that experienced quietly by ordinary folk as t...
July 06, 2021 at 21:09
I think that's true but it has little bearing on whether compassion is valuable or not. Fake anything or hypocrisy is bad. Genuine compassion is not b...
July 06, 2021 at 20:48
I mean the former - fueled as in 'helped to bring about'. I don't dismiss his ideas. And he has great one liners that get you thinking.
July 06, 2021 at 20:40
One reason is that he often wrote and riffed like a stand up comedian and has always been popular with a younger demographic. I find his condemnation ...
July 06, 2021 at 19:57
Pedant corner. This wording does not appear in Dostoevsky; the actual quote: He laughed. 'But what will become of men then?' I asked him, 'without God...
July 06, 2021 at 08:17
Nice. The important qualifier for me is 'considered belief'. I have had more than a few people insist there is another option - 'don't care'. But we w...
July 06, 2021 at 08:05
I got nothing... As I said on the atheism thread, I always thought that you could be an agnostic atheist, in as much as atheism refers to your belief ...
July 06, 2021 at 07:19