Jack, I absolutely agree with you. ...and if we continue following the same bad advice (based on bad science), then the worst is yet to come. (...for ...
InPitzotl, you are missing the point. If you view this planet as a singular body, where part of it was being invaded by an infection, what would you d...
No, this would NOT "increase virus growth". There would be NO NET virus growth, but instead only a reduction. If the healthy population destroys more ...
In conclusion: If we continue to "social distance" our healthy population (including those recently vaccinated, and those previously infected (now imm...
Ech, I think we agree here. It is those with weak and compromised immune systems that we need to worry about. Those with healthy immune systems will b...
Use healthy people (with healthy immune systems) AND recently vaccinated people AND recently infected (now immune) people. Keeping these people hidden...
You are missing the point. 1. Healthy immune people kill more virus than they spread. 2. Vulnerable people spread more virus than than they kill. 1. F...
Yes, healthy immune people "clean up" (kill the virus; stop the spread of) covid-19 contamination. If this were not true, then herd immunity would be ...
Correct. People either contribute to the contamination or they help remove the contamination. Those that are immune (those with healthy immune systems...
Not so. This is the Mistake #2 (referred to in the OP analogy). Firstly, vulnerable people catch the virus by exposing themselves to contaminated envi...
It is the healthy people that we "expose" to the virus, NOT the vulnerable. This is commonly referred to as "strategic herd immunity". And from an ove...
Bottom-line -- I think we both agree that the more healthy immune people out there in society the more protective effect we get, and the safer are our...
Okay, and to follow along and translate using the OP analogy --- all cars have good tread (strong immune systems; healthy) or bald tires (weak immune ...
You are falsely confusing the "threshold value" as the starting point of protection. Herd immunity is not like a light switch that starts protecting w...
This is not correct. We can achieve herd immunity through infection, vaccination, and/or the combination of both. Not so. 1. Vulnerable people die fro...
I think you meant to say "with" and not "without". And yes, every life is important. The goal is to save as many lives as possible. Of all 2,077,038 p...
Who are these "few million people"? Healthy people (those with strong immune systems with no underlying conditions that are susceptible to the ill eff...
If one group of people stay in the shade, then that group of people will have their sunburns under control. But when they eventually go out and play o...
Hi Echarmion, I would agree by going even further by saying it is more futile than that. In a theoretical sense, if we could put everyone (and every a...
Just a piece of friendly advice here (if you wish to accept it)... be careful with the ad hominen attacks (the casting of insults). To many of us that...
Well said Jack. Our current policy makers (Dr. Fauci, et al), and those that blindly follow, and enforce these policies are leading us all over the cl...
Empirical data tells us that not only does social distancing NOT work, but it actually makes things worse. There is lots of social distancing going on...
Not to necessarily disagree, but this is a different definition than the one used in my analogy/OP. *********** I agree that social distancing is very...
Do you think we can "social distance" our way out of this mess? ...or do we need herd immunity (of the healthy and recently vaccinated)? I don't follo...
SophistiCat, it seems that you view healthy people (those with strong immune systems) more as "spreaders" of the virus than as "removers" of the virus...
If you are not sure, then it is best that you keep the mask on and keep social distancing. We wouldn't want to contribute to the problem But I suspect...
We have two different segments (vulnerable and healthy) of our population which should be treated differently to minimize the overall total deaths (to...
Hi LuckyR, I recognize your name from another forum. (I was "RJG"). What ever happened to onlinephilosophy? It seems they are no longer on the web. I ...
HiMadFool, I agree that we need more and better social distancing of our vulnerable population. BUT social distancing the healthy population is counte...
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