...let me try again, HERE ARE MY SPECIFIC WORDS below. Can you respond to these words with a YES or NO???? Assuming Joe, John and the pie are all toge...
Firstly, you seem to be fabricating a delusional interpretation of my words. And secondly, this is not necessarily ridiculous (i.e. thousands of peopl...
I'm glad you were honest enough to end with this paragraph and not continue to falsely equate all the viruses in mankind with this one virus that we c...
If you are trying to falsely equate the virus as grains of sand, or molecules of water relative to two people (Joe and John), then the virus greatly o...
The reason herd immunity works is because it distributes a significant portion of the viral load to the healthy immune (who don't die), and AWAY from ...
Keywords: sufficient proportion of a population. Your theory is just the opposite. Your theory is based on creating an insufficient proportion! You fa...
There is no contradiction. And it's not just me saying this, but virtually all medical experts, scientists, and health agencies (e.g. CDC, etc) also s...
Not only does this contradict basic math and logic, but it also doesn't align with current science. Without healthy people mixing in with vulnerable p...
Book, you are spot on. I am just trying to play nice. "Well intentioned" is just my (nicer; hidden) way of saying exactly what you said. I think Dr. F...
The herd immunity threshold is based on having a minimum mix of healthy people to vulnerable people, typically thought to be around 60%/40% ratio. If ...
Okay, so let me try asking a different way. How does healthy people factor into protecting vulnerable people in your model? ******************* You do...
Logic always trumps science. If something is logically impossible then all the science in the world cannot make the impossible, somehow possible. Clos...
You did say this, ...right? --- "the only role healthy people play in herd immunity is by not getting infected". So then how do "healthy people not ge...
As can be seen, logically and mathematically, we are killing many, many more people by implementing social distancing on our healthy population. If we...
Also, if I understand your program/model correctly, the "protective effect" shown on your program is a function of "removing" (not "adding") healthy p...
...any virus that infects an immune person is a dead virus, ...meaning one less virus in the environment, ...meaning that immune people remove more vi...
Then there would be no such thing as "herd immunity"! I suspect it more likely that your program is not using the true volumetric ("density") calculat...
Correct. If we hide (socially distance) healthy people in mosquito proof gunny sacks then there will be more vulnerable deaths, (as per the equations)...
Isaac, look at the math and the logic. Please point out the specific error that you see. Again, if healthy immune people didn't remove more of the vir...
1. If we add healthy people, then less vulnerable people die. 2. If we remove (quarantine) vulnerable people, then less vulnerable people die. 3. If w...
Oops, I've got "Nv" representing two different things. Corrected equation: P0=Nv/Np, where P0 is initial probability, Nv is number of viruses, Np numb...
E is just the protective effect, it doesn't tell you how many (or what %) of people are saved, or have died. If you want to know how many dead (assumi...
Yes, of course. Preventing (or social distancing) healthy people from away from contaminated environments allows the contaminated environment to only ...
No. And again, the initial odds of infection are n viruses/n people in a given environment. (...if you wish to multiply this value by a 90% probabilit...
THE CORRECTED CALCULATIONS: The amount of the virus within a given environment, divided by the total number of people within that environment dictate ...
2. "the only role healthy people play in herd immunity is by not getting infected" -- InPitzotl Seriously? ...you are playing games, ...you know very ...
2. "the only role healthy people play in herd immunity is by not getting infected" -- InPitzotl InPitzotl, your coding/program/model all "beg-the-ques...
No problem with my logic. If my premises are true, then sickness is irrelevant. And if sickness is irrelevant, then your statement is false. It's as s...
Firstly, and just to give you a heads up, I am very well versed in logical fallacies. So your constant throwing of the names of logical fallacies up a...
This is funny that you say this, because this is exactly how I see your responses. Isn't it interesting how we each see the other as the "irrational" ...
Virtually all reputable medical scientists on this planet (even Dr. Fauci) agree that #1 is true. They also agree that herd immunity is our ONLY means...
So I suppose that you are also against ambulance drivers responding to traffic accidents because they themselves might get into a traffic accident? So...
You seem to be playing both sides of the fence here. Please clarify, which is it: 1. Do healthy immune people SAVE vulnerable people (via herd immunit...
Vulnerable people don't die when healthy become immune. Vulnerable people only die if we don't protect them from the virus. Vulnerable people are prot...
This is blatantly false. *********** It is not that we necessarily need to keep vulnerable people away from certain people, it is that we need to keep...
TRUE. For every virus that is killed by a healthy immune person, means one less virus for a vulnerable person to be potentially exposed to. Healthy im...
How do you propose minimizing the total number of sick people? Our current social distancing efforts only seem to be back firing on us. ********** Agr...
FALSE. Strategic herd immunity REDUCES the total number of viruses, not "increases". If it truly increased the total number of viruses then there woul...
Who said anything about infecting "EVERYONE"??? We only expose the HEALTHY to covid, not the vulnerable!!! The healthy don't die of exposure to covid,...
Your so-called "empirical data" is nothing but cherry picking certain facts to create a scary story. Look at the actual data itself of those that have...
"Atlas has argued that, if herd immunity is an inevitable destination, we should perhaps put our foot on the accelerator." Scott Atlas is absolutely c...
Empirical data tells us otherwise. Contrary to the "fear mongering" media, of the over 2 million worldwide covid deaths so far, 99.1% had at least one...
How about we just cut to the chase? Let's put aside your condescending remarks and identify the root of our disagreement, ...unless of course, you hav...
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