I would rephrase that to say that Pop can know my opinions and such, but Pop can never know my consciousness because to know it Pop would have to expe...
No argument is required. I'm merely pointing out that you can only assume that I'm conscious, you can't know that I'm conscious, so I could not be exp...
Then how is it that I can’t even prove to you that I’m conscious? I could be a series of algorithms or an AI that lacks consciousness. There’s no way ...
Clark's artistic opinions are not his consciousness and it's a big stretch to say that they reflect his consciousness. He may, for some reason, expres...
I doubt it would do well at even the neighborhood swap meet. More evidence that bad art can still be defined as art though. :razz: https://designpraxi...
You have to admit that this is an odd thing to say. Especially odd because in your very next post you say: So is Clark revealing his consciousness or ...
If you know what a letterbox is, and you know the color red, you'll experience a red letterbox. If you don't know what a letterbox is, you'll experien...
As I repeatedly pointed out with Constance, we can easily dismiss context with our imagination, but in real life it may not be so easy. What does it e...
Unless you have perfect pitch you couldn’t hear a musical note and identify it. You could learn how to do this with practice however. Just because sen...
Don’t ya hate that?! When all else fails click the edit button, which sits at the bottom of posts to the immediate right of the time stamp. You may ne...
What's the problem with it? I basically interpret it to mean 'art for aesthetics' as opposed to art for profit, or art for deliberate messaging as in ...
Your point is still far from clear. I've heard of 'art for art's sake', but I've never heard the expression 'art about art' and I don't know what it's...
It wasn't about words, so no, I wouldn't be satisfied with that erroneous assessment. I could post something about words and then you could accurately...
There's a couple of issues, I'm afraid, that prevent your 'reductionist' theory from rising above the level of nonsense. I already pointed out the fir...
Suppose that no human ever bothered to distinguish the color of red from other colors. They would need to learn the distinction as well as learn the w...
We all know that people have the capacity for aesthetic experience. Was that ever in dispute? Remarkably, in that long post you didn't use the word 'c...
You may have noticed that people can and often do BS as they please about all sorts of things, well defined or not. Art should probably be the least o...
So you’re saying that there’s genocidal glee, just the concept of glee, and your mind can separate glee from any actual instance of glee, such as Hitl...
If you mean to try making sense out of nonsense, we'll need to go back to what you wrote earlier: For starters, I don't think it's a good way to start...
Obviously, a painting done yourself reveals a lot more about a person than a painting done from a paint-by-numbers kit. A dozen people could do the sa...
Mind activity is expressed in everything we do, so you must mean a specific kind of activity. Let's call it 'neural art activity' or NAA for convenien...
Right, you appear to be claiming that aesthetic experience or art is embedded in experience, which is like saying that 'good' is embedded in experienc...
You're making the same fundamental assumption as RussellA, that inherent value exists in all things, which I suppose is some form of idealism. All obs...
This is a very poor simile because temperature is a physical fact and in that way objective. Under the same conditions, anyone can measure the tempera...
This is like saying that all people are sexy and some are just sexier than others. The fact of the matter is that we don’t always view others in terms...
That is obviously not true, and Dewey doesn’t hold to this. I spent a few minutes reading about Dewey this morning and he appears to claim that there’...
So I experience the poor garden. In the most basic sense it could be said that I'm aware of the garden, and that I'm aware of how I feel about the poo...
To see something aesthetically. You’ve claimed that the aesthetic is an integral part of experience itself, however, which seems to mean that we alway...
What about your claim that the aesthetic is an integral part of experience itself? You seem to be describing situations where there is not an aestheti...
None of that explains how “the aesthetic is an integral part of experience itself.” In the etymology of the word aesthetic, it at first only meant per...
Except when it's not (as when frozen), of course. :razz: No-self is just a common term in the enlightenment biz and nothing to get especially excited ...
I'm curious what you think of Buddhism and other Eastern belief systems, which have existed for thousands of years, and its doctrine of no-self. They ...
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