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Oh, sorry that I misinterpreted you here. Isn't that irrelevant? I don't know of any welfare kings or queens. Besides, if one were to address the issu...

Given a utilitarian rationale, yes. If the money is spent on bettering the lives of other people, instead of starting wars or such.

Well, the profoundness of the feeling, originated from seeing someone else be happy from my own deed. What do you think about seeing people as happy f...

Well, you gotta start somewhere. And, I think that enlarging one's sphere of interest is a good thing. Seemingly people do agree with this from what p...

I once gave out some cigarettes to homeless people. Seeing the happiness on their faces, really struck me as a profound feeling of happiness on my own...

I think it's socialism? No? At the very highest of peaks, it's communism, no?

So, what can be done to enlarge one's sphere of interest then? Seemingly, if more people on an individual level cared about others then the problem wo...

So, I'm wondering if all this can be said to be an argument for more socialism or social democracy? I don't like seeing homeless people, and if more w...

Same here. Although, I'm not furthering my life anymore. Kinda gave up on that.

Agreed. What kind of society would that look like, politically?

Any and all attention is good, @"Aleksander Kvam", especially for the poor and needy.

I think UBI, is the ultimate is increasing our so-called 'sphere of interest' in a capitalist based economy. The very ultimate being communism, I thin...

Yes.

They aren't all thieves. Just saying.

Speaking politically then isn't the rational solution, mores socialism?

What's interesting about it? We just don't know where the money will go, so we don't give. If we had assurance, that it would be spent on necessities ...

Well, it might help them emotionally. I'm not sure if in the long run, it would help, as you describe.

Surely, we do. To some extent. Not saying we should just abandon self-interest, just that would be the ethical thing to do.

Well, it's both, I think. We can reason that someone needs more than they already have (a homeless); but, we don't feel like giving to them at risk th...

I meant this figuratively. Just rhetorical tripe, hehe.

It just means what it says. That religious conservatives contribute more to the welfare of others in certain domains than do liberals. The same may be...

What is this a failure of? The amount of knowledge that one has about the needs of others or something different? Depends on the type of person you ar...

Cool. You seem to be of that type from what I gather. Even if this means voting for a socialist who wants to introduce something like Universal Basic ...

Yes; I agree. But, on an individual level, why is this? I guess you can take my argument as in favor of a type of social democracy or political affili...

So, just to break it down. P1: We should care about other people to be good moral agents. P2: Our sphere of interest limits this concept. P3: We shoul...

Feels more like a rant than anything that can be addressed. Care to expand on the rant?

Darn, insurance doesn't cover stolen cars. Note to self: Don't be cheap with insurance.

Mom's car got stolen from in front of the house. Hope the insurance pays a nice sum for the value of it. Now we need to buy two cars.

Well, don't you have conflicting desires at all? If you do then, there's something that's guiding you when a decision is made to act on any particular...

To the first question, yes, I suppose so; but the reasoning is backwards. It starts from the higher order volition of (in this case) love, that (the r...

What do you mean? The how in self love is just a matter of acceptance, I suppose. How much are you willing to look past your faults and accept yoursel...

I don't really have an answer to the how part. I'm still rereading the book referenced in the OP.

So, according to Frankfurt, self love is disinterested care for oneself, if I recall correctly. Love generates it's own reasons according to Frankfurt...

Well, ol Frankfurt in the book quoted in the OP makes the case that self love is the highest good from which virtuous behavior can originate. Do you t...

Agreed.

No idea Noble. But emotional or originating from a volition, passion, or desire or love sounds close.

So then what's left to say about these profound questions, since you edited your post now? Simply doing or action?

Same boat here, although due to differing reasons. I agree that we intellectualize ethics every day. I mean how couldn't we? But, again as per the OP ...

You don't give me much to reply towards.

So, this seems to be indeed a case of whereof one cannot speak thereof one ought to remain silent as I surmise from your posts, @"StreetlightX"?

Naah, it's fine. We can carry on just fine.

I'll see if I can muster a reply you deserve. I think that ethics can be intellectualized due to the fact that we do it all the time. However, as per ...

I'm fine with you being done.

So, you haven't addressed the second part of that post, which I hoped you would. But, it's alright, I won't make the false assumption that your an aut...

I'm doing as best I can. I just was wondering why you seem to be against discussing matters of what you call the only ethical question there is. If it...

Sure it can be talked about, but not intellectualized? Where or how are you delineating between the two?

Here's what you said: Then is it or is it not an intellectual issue?

So, then what can anything of meaning be said about them if they can't be intellectualized?

What? I asked how does symmetry breaking lead to the resolution of the issue, and no response on that.

So, you've resorted to ad hom's and gross over-generalizations? Fine.