Shawn

All the basic needs are taken care of. Well, it's more about identifying with depression in general. I am my symptoms but my symptoms aren't me. That ...

Yes, depression doesn't go away like that. It takes some dedication to make it want to go away. But, disidentification is a poor means of doing so, I ...

Quite interested in what do you mean by schizophrenia here? If disidentification could be applied to dysphoric states of being, such as depression, th...

Depression doesn't exist in some independent manner or fashion from the mind. It often has a manifestation in being itself. Take, for example, "I am d...

Not everyone self identifies as a philosopher here, you are aware of that?

So they hate liberals more than they like Trump. Apples and oranges? Sacha Cohen would not indicate so.

Anyone still interested in this reading group? I can cover what has already been covered in some small snippets if necessary. Edit: I'm thinking about...

There's always stuff that can be dis-identified from. It is just a matter of what content I want to disidentify from. It can or rather, should be impa...

No, it is impartial to right and wrong. It doesn't distinguish between the valence of right or wrong.

And what's wrong about that? Disidentification is a valuable tool to use when confronted with conflict, no? But, I am leaning on the assumption that o...

If you insist, then I think I lean towards being straight. But, more about disidentification, please. Why is it utter BS in your opinion?

What makes you say it's BS, for the matter?

Well, then. Then I guess, quite unfortunately, we cannot have a dispute or discussion over the issue. A shame really.

Yes, I understand this somewhat. To be honest I would call myself asexual. I am not driven (anymore, or much less so) to gratify feelings of lust or s...

I'm not sure I understand the point of this strange question. Is your point that some things are simply what they are and cannot be changed no matter ...

Makes sense. I guess disidentification can only go so far. You can keep your hand warm near the fire but not so much as put it in the fire to keep it ...

Then there is only the ability to coping with it, yes? How can you feel joy out of those things if your depressed? That seems contradictory, no? Thank...

Yeah, it's a futile concept in my opinion to address internal problems of the mind such as depression and other maladies. You don't negate depression ...

It's interesting because, in CBT, there's even an attempt at disidentification, at least not overtly. It's mainly to stop labeling oneself with variou...

Thanks for the response. Yes, that's what I was pointing out. Yes, well, the point would be not to identify with a label and simply accept the symptom...

I'm not sure you can turn down the volume on 'depression', it's a lingering feeling that doesn't just go away. It's a persistent and deep mood so to s...

This is interesting. So, how can you disidentify, at all, with depression? The otherness of depression eventually leads one to anti-depression; but, t...

I was thinking more along the lines or associating a state of mind with being itself. This is manifest in terms such as "I am...", non-temporally. Wha...

Yes, it's built into us to identify with things and such matters; but, again I reference my previous post, about the limitlessness of disidentificatio...

I agree. Transpersonal psychology seems like an interesting offshoot. But, what about setting limits on disidentification. It seems to me that there a...

@"unenlightened", what do you have to say about all this, if I may humbly ask?

So, let me reiterate my position. One has the symptoms of "X", and those symptoms point towards a label or diagnosis, such as X itself. How does one s...

How does one jump out of depression? That's quite impossible, I think. "I jooted myself out of depression." If anyone knows then please let us know!

@"Jake" So, take this for example: How do you disidentify with a thought at all?

I don't quite understand what you mean by this. Care to expand?

So, you disagree that disidentification is a useful therapy in combating depression? It seems to me that, at least initially it might not be of great ...

I feel as though it is quite obvious when you experience depression. It's a dysphoric mood of sorts. In the case provided in the OP, the mood has been...

Disidentification simply means, as tim wood has provided, freedom from being labeled by oneself or others. What about the process of disidentification...

Fine then, depression is a term laid with ambiguity, at least until it is experienced. So, then what do you have to say about disidentification?

But, disidentification is not similar to what you are describing. Disidentification is a passive process of the mind. I mean, the chromic depressed pe...

You edited your post so, I'll readdress the edited part. What about the fact that philosophy gave birth to all the humanistic fields that have attaine...

I don't have an answer to that one. Sounds about right to me, but, the quietism in me tells me that is wrong to some degree. We go along changing our ...

This is what I'm trying to decipher. It is through disidentification that those two distinctions fall apart and the dichotomy disappears. That's the p...

Wow, thanks for your service, heh. Guess not then.

My proposal is simply to invite more trained professionals to frequent the forum when issues pertaining to psychology arise. Or to put it more bluntly...

In case anyone is wondering where the term "disidentification" was founded or propounded, then there's a Wiki on a movement started by Roberto Assagio...

Ah, now I see. So, your point was to talk about issues (existential crisis, malaise, loss of loved one) in isolation or excluding pigeonholing label (...

I don't quite see what your getting at here, sorry if I'm being a dunce; but, care to elaborate?

Care to elaborate on this process? How does it come about that from connectedness people's sphere of interest shrinks to a smaller size to only (often...

I don't understand your solution. Is it just replacing thought with activity?

All this running. I can't help but feel as though this is all done out of some sense of urgency or impending doom. So much anxiety and struggles. It s...

More power to you. Minds are changing on the issue, slowly but surely.

Yes, it is different from being. Identification in some sense supersedes being. In that instant of identification is an idea(l) formed and conceptuali...

Hmm, I didn't mean to imply any of the sentiments you picked up. I wouldn't classify myself as a clinical depressive. Anyway, this isn't a cry out for...

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