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Bedrock belief of the linguistic variety are those which somehow offer ground for others. These can be well reasoned or not. Some of these need no jus...

Sam is one of the most patient and kind people I have come across while on forums such as this one. He's interested in basic bedrock belief, of both t...

Why new? You've already done the work. :wink:

I'm reminded of apo... but noticeably nicer. Brainpharte comes to mind as well.

I'm taking it to be the case that I understand you. However, according to you, I need not pay attention to your words in order to do so. Now do you se...

All language less belief is not.

I'm impressed how you're arguing for the idea that all belief has propositional content without using the terms... until you invoked logical accountin...

Hey Sam! Sorry about temporarily hijacking your thread, my friend. Hope this finds you well. :smile: It seems to me that you may be glossing over some...

Indeed, you are not.

There is no doubt to me that there are certain physiological structures, including but not limited to brain parts, that are required in order for the ...

I'm done here. Thanks. :kiss:

Stolen cows...

I would say that. Does the above hold true regardless?

Mad cows...

An elucidation upon the earlier "off you go" comment... I thought we were taking account of your cat's belief; what your cat takes to be the case rega...

Language less belief is chock full of meaning, and yet devoid of all propositional content. Or... Not all belief is meaningful and/or propositional co...

Either a language less creature's belief does not have propositional content or propositions somehow exist prior to language use. I chose the former l...

Add the timeline first suggested and all remains well.

Off you go...

Taking it to be the case that the floor is solid requires paying attention to the floor.

The cat does not pay attention to what it's taking to be the case. That's a problem, isn't it?

That's what I'm attempted to unpack... or targeting.

Maybe this helps??? One cannot take it to be the case that leaves are green without thinking about the color of the leaves. Yet, it seems your positio...

Since it seems that you're advocating a physicalist account of belief. What role does the tree play in an individual's belief about the tree? The tree...

:rofl: An individual can take it to be the case that the floor is solid without thinking about the floor. That follows from your claims. Are you ok wi...

I thought that could easily have counted as a reductio ad absurdum. I'm surprised. I will be even more so if you are still ok with those consequences ...

Are you assuring me that you are ok with the consequences I've just set out?

I'm not so much as making a point at this time... I'm more involved with trying to understand what each participant here has been saying.

Indeed. And such a person would be forced to admit that taking something to be the case does not always require thinking about what is being taken to ...

That's not the only alternative.

I would agree with saying your cat took that to be the case long ago, and am more than happy to expand upon that line of thought. The correlations wer...

Taking something to be the case... The something is always a statement.

This critique is spot on. Elemental constituency is what matters here. Belief existed in it's entirety prior to being talked about. Prior to language....

Taking it to be the case that this is a sentence of English in a thread about Wittgenstein requires thinking about language use while using it. It is ...

Best. The problem you have is shared by me. Translation is not readily forthcoming. That's where we were earlier, and we remain there. I do anyway. St...

Better.

You know I've good reason(s) supporting this. Thus, you know it's not unsupported. Dogma always is.

It's the elemental constituency(the ingredients, so to speak) that matters most when talking about non linguistic and linguistic belief. All belief co...

...thought better...

Too much philosophy. There are two kinds of belief. Linguistic and non linguistic. That's all it's saying.

Hope your procedure has the best possible results... Much of my admiration for you is had in the helpfulness of your participation. You and several ot...

Banno's suggestion here to stop treating belief as a thing is spot on. Belief is not a single thing. Belief certainly does not have a spatiotemporal l...

Again... I commend that post!!! :smile:

While I still admire the clarity in your post, it does not make for much of a valid objection to a differing position, such as my own. I'm actually no...

Well done Banno... I could certainly raise issues, but those would be based upon our frameworks. What you've set out here is perfectly in line with yo...

The content of the belief(about-ness, I've seen it called).

There is no one to one correspondence between particular beliefs and neural pathways/networks.

Time machines require language.

Weren't many of his most trusted contemporaries proponents of JTB?

That's Witt's idea.