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Hey apo! :cool:

If you apply that to all the times that you've used the term "moral" some things will begin to stand out... You'll reach incoherence and/or self-contr...

I've also not received notices after replies. I'm sure we're not alone. They'll fix it.

Just a friendly suggestion... I wouldn't spend too much time arguing about some philosophical school of thought and/or position. It's much better to s...

I certainly do not mean to be. Perhaps it's easy to mistake short concise answers and/or explanations of problems with rudeness?

All morality consists entirely of thought and belief about acceptable/unacceptable thought, belief, and/or behaviour. All things moral are about accep...

:brow: The suggestion that there are two systems of creating and/or maintaining social norms was not mine. I was pointing out the inadequacy of that s...

I wrote "almost entirely" because there are undoubtedly some beliefs which are part of one's initial worldview that they do not adopt wholesale.

There is an inherent inadequacy hereabouts in the language being used to account for morality. Not all continued practice of some social norm amounts ...

Are you saying that mimicry as a means to get attention or seeking affirmation can and cannot count as rational thought? :brow: That bit of mine was s...

I meant what I wrote. During language acquisition itself, we adopt our first worldview. Your apprehension here is based upon a self-defeating, untenab...

I've raised the point above in order to begin establishing the groundwork for an evolutionary timeline of morality. Pointing out that talking of "the ...

I was simply laying a bit of groundwork. Stating the obvious, as it were, that morality evolves over time, and that we've made mistakes along the way....

The contentious pivotal matter, historically anyway, involves whether or not the 'quality' of goodness is somehow a property of all good things regard...

Interesting thread. So many things have been said by so many different people. Although I've carefully read much of this thread, I'm working from memo...

Do you understand the difference? :brow: I'm charging convention, both historical and current, with working from an emaciated notion of what counts as...

Thank you. Hoping this finds you and yours safe and well. Cheers!

"Moral" covers both. It's a difference in criterion and/or taxonomy.

I was asking about the truth of that claim in direct response to the criterion set forth - for what you claim we need - in the last paragraph of the O...

It's bad, immoral, wrong, and unjust to whack a little old lady in the back of the head with a shovel for no reason whatsoever... What's the problem h...

What counts as a moral claim, as compared/contrasted to all the other kinds of claims that are not? :brow:

You've invoked the term "race" as something to focus upon. I'm not interested.

Please reread my post that you initially replied to. This time look for your answers regarding what racist belief is, what racism is, and what systemi...

This is perhaps the stupidest comment I've read about racism in a long while. If true... then you... are almost certainly vicious. Come to think of it...

That's a misuse of the analogy. Racist belief and systemic racism. Both exist, The latter is existentially dependent upon the former. The latter consi...

Are you saying that there is no such thing as racist belief or systemic racism? That would be a problem.

I would suggest that you re-read the post you originally replied to. The answer is there. Another thing... There's no causation being attributed. It's...

Seems to me that doing that does nothing to end racism and it's residual effects/affects. Thank you for the offer, but I have to politely decline.

Given that you're a mod and the topic is dead serious, I just couldn't continue to allow myself to let this reply go unanswered. Weird that it looked ...

I suggest that you guys look into it a bit closer... I'm saying that racist belief is necessary, and is always an element within systemic racism, or i...

Oh perfect... No wonder there's been no real results based on it... Again academia is a bit lost. I've lived it for half a century.

An all too typical 'philosophical' stance... That's meaningless nonsensical language use. What we are referring to existed in it's entirety prior to t...

Ah, the convenience of leaning on an unknown realm as a logical possibility. Logical possibility alone does not warrant/justify belief... by my lights...

Not really. I think however, and perhaps you'll agree, that Zeno was using infinite divisibility in a much different way, for much different reasons. ...

All causal relationships consist of a plurality of things. First cause arguments mistakenly presuppose otherwise.

Is the problem within Zeno's paradox somehow not one here, with your(Hawking's) suggestion?

I think we agree on that(regarding the lack of need to invoke a deity to explain some observation or another). I was more asking if calculus was appli...

I'm no mathematician... obviously. But, doesn't this have the same logic as Zeno's paradox with the hare and the tortoise? Doesn't calculus solve this...

Fair enough, I didn't make it explicit... However, given your cognitive abilities, I thought it unnecessary... There is systemic racism. Hence, there ...

:smile: Not really my friend... there must be something to think about. :wink:

And yet another would be to put thought and belief at the center... :wink:

Who are the innocent?

We're on the same side, you know? I mean, I presume we want the same outcomes. Here, it would benefit us to recognize that our differences seem to be ...

The 'law and order' approach, usually meant to counter protesters, falls flat on it's face as soon as someone points out the fact that blacks are prot...

Again, unless I'm misunderstanding you, I find no reason to suppress such belief. Pass it on, for your children's sake. It is beyond a reasonable doub...

Who are the guilty?

I recently listened to a lady talking to an audience of white people. She asked for a show by raised hands of anyone who would like to be treated in t...

On it's face, this is completely false. For the system itself is existentially dependent upon racist belief, as I've argued from/for common sense rega...

We're talking past one another a bit... I think. While I understand the (legal culpability)need to avoid accusations/charges/claims of intention, the ...

Upon a second reading, I realized that this is incoherent. Racially motivated policies are required. Here, you said as much yourself. So, either racis...