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If I draw an association between a bell and food, and I grant your argument, then it only follows that the bell, the food, and the association between...

Where is the parent/child relationship located after childbirth?

Indeed Jeep... The Russian investigation began with the intent of investigating any possible Russia interference. And look where it has led... There a...

So then, if I grant the above... The biological parent relation no longer exists in the womb once the child is born. It is located wherever the child ...

Interesting question. Applying what's been set out thus far... The child seems to have drawn correlations between your behaviour and your wanting the ...

Yup. I believe that that's what you said before. There is a relationship between a mother and child. What is the location of that relationship? I'm cu...

On my view, meaning has multiple different necessary elemental constituents with mental correlation being but one.

Meaning is not the sort of thing that can be coherently said to have a location. Inside the head is insufficient for meaning. We've touched upon this ...

It would be much more accurate to say that not all meaning is social.

John wrote: Many people do not accept the notion that meaning is prior to language. Even more, perhaps, reject the idea that truth is as well. I would...

You thought that I was arguing that the sound had meaning to my cat in the fullest sense associated with understanding symbols? That would have been t...

Science identifies statements that are grounded upon logical possibility alone and places them in the appropriate container. That is not the same thin...

You've just contradicted yourself. Earlier you said that the sound did not have meaning to my cat, but was instead significant(had significance to her...

Fair enough John. It would follow then that signs aren't meaningful.

Indeed Banno. Employing a symbol is already using language... Note here that intent is required. That was not the case with my cat. I do not make soun...

A distinction that makes no difference. Either way, the cat has drawn mental correlations between the sound and treats. The sound is meaningful. The s...

That claim requires justification. Care to elaborate upon both, the proper distinction between sign and symbol, and then show the relevance?

Indeed. There is most certainly a way of understanding language(and of showing that much) by way of using it. I fail to see the relevance that that ha...

We've talked past one another my friend... Following a rule rather than stating it says nothing at all about what's 'beneath' language. Whereof.... Un...

It only makes sense to say that a symbol stands in for the symbolized when the candidate in question is being used to do so... That is, when intent is...

If symbols are taken by convention to stand for what they symbolize, then convention is presupposing intent where none is warranted... in some cases t...

Indeed. It is often thought/believed that a symbol stands for what it represents. The problem with this focus, and indeed... most discussion thus far....

Representation and symbolism differ in their necessary elemental constituents.

If meaning is prior to language, then any such example would need to consist in/of something other than language. Obviously, we have to report upon su...

Same premiss. Still false.

Ah yes. I suspected something of the sort. Secondary premiss is false.

Hmm... So then, can you offer an example which is exhausted by neither the semantic nor the foundational approach?

Ok Banno... Having read Austin's How To Do Things With Words, I readily agree with the notion that not all words refer. That is of no consequence to w...

Interesting claim, particularly the part about "structures of language" being genetically wired into our nervous system before birth. Care to unpack t...

No one outside of the intelligence agencies knows what evidence they have and/or where it is leading. Some folk consider the length of time the invest...

All philosophy consists of thought/belief and statements thereof. Whatever thought/belief consists in/of and whatever it takes to form and hold... suc...

Sigh... Although I've read much, I haven't read the entire thread. Too much irrelevance. I have watched it devolve. Here's how I'd begin talking about...