creativesoul

What a fucking bunch of horseshit... Republicans and Democrats have both fucked over a large swathe of the American population. There is no difference...

Well, the student maintained their average. They've never had less than an "A". I had to be very careful how I spoke though, for my understanding is n...

That's only a matter of time. There's soooo much at stake. Mueller will do it right. I suspect that there will be many many currently unknown people i...

I recently witnessed an introduction to philosophy professor who actually put forth this argument. :gasp: I was helping an intro student, so I ignored...

Didn't say that my friend. Not at all. I agree that those four things are distinct from one another.

Solipsism is 'intellectual' language game. It is impossible in reality. Language requires shared meaning. Shared meaning requires a plurality of minds...

A mind is existentially dependent upon a brain, amongst other things...

I'l wait for this... :smile:

I think that thought, belief, truth, and meaning are inextricably entwined.

I've abandoned the attempts to draw a distinction between 'linguistic' beliefs and non-linguistic beliefs in terms of the content. There's good reason...

Yeah, I think these all will do a good job of describing some beliefs.

What is Jack's belief that his bowl is empty if not the connections he draws between what it looks and smells like when full, what it looks and smells...

A thing... Not the rest. Do we agree that belief is foundational? That is not to say linear. The web description is better, I think. But it begins sim...

Our belief system('mind', if you prefer) works in many ways that are autonomous. We've all experienced a gestalt, I imagine. We've all had something o...

Ok. Here's where I'm at... The internal/external dichotomy - if applied in such a way that everything is one or the other - cannot properly take accou...

Hmmm... In what way does belief require such dissipation? I mean, what is the term "require" doing?

Any reasonable person can look at a comprehensive timeline of events. I'm sure there's a mathematician out there somewhere who could put some statisti...

So, I think we were here... Belief requires the internal, the external, and a creature capable of connecting the two. I want to peruse the thread in i...

Interesting... Some will hold to archaic convention even when it has been proven to be very problematic. The notion of belief suffers much the same fa...

What makes it go from being mistaken to self-deception? For that matter, what makes it either? Your opinion? I mean, she was right after-all.

I'm still waiting on a criterion which when met by a candidate counts as self-deception.

Not at all. I've never claimed otherwise. Self-contradiction is not self-deception.

Rudimentary belief requires no consideration. Not all belief is rudimentary. Forgetting and remembering. We either know something or we don't. I find ...

Point taken. Some false belief can be recognized by the believer without an other. So... Self-deception is not being able to correct one's mistaken be...

Rational process can involve putting certain kinds of logic to use. Para-consistent logic qualifies. Para-consistent logic holds that a statement can ...

So not all deception is deceitful and... ...what makes deception deceitful is when it breaks the rules of acceptable/unacceptable behaviour. Install a...

Commitment isn't enough though Un. Necessary? Surely. Sufficient or adequate? Not even close. I think we agree. We may get somewhere helpful thinking ...

Looks like a situation where all examples of self-deception only have one thing in common that makes them so... they are all called "self deception". ...

For those who argue in favor of self-deception... What is the difference between being mistaken and self-deception?

Setting aside this notion of blameworthiness, but taking on the rest... One has a deeply held belief. That is, one has unshakable conviction that some...

Responsibility for consequences of mistakes belongs here(is in line with my position). Blameworthiness doesn't. Both are tangential enough to warrant ...

I don't even know what "ruling it our a priori" is supposed to mean. If it is impossible for one to deliberately misrepresent their own thought and be...

I will...

My what a tangled web we weave...

One cannot make a mistake intentionally. Mistakes are accidental. Blameworthiness doesn't belong here.

Non sequitur. As if someone called 'Honesty' cannot be a plurality called 'Honesty'. Surely there are plenty of sensible ways to divide up one mind......

The process you described is nothing more than using inadequate reasoning. Using inadequate reasoning is a mistake. Mistakes are accidental. That whic...

One heap is a plurality of grains. One mind is a plurality of thoughts. One brain is a plurality of cells. One body is a plurality of cells. One mind ...

It makes intentional self-deception impossible.

What are the chances? :lol:

How long's he been there? :razz:

Where's Snowden? :grin:

I think we're in agreement here. We know what it is to deceive another. We know what it takes. We know some things that must be both present and not i...

Unintentional is accidental. Deception is on purpose. Unintentional self-deception is accidental. Intentional self-deception is on purpose. :wink: On ...

On the splitting of one into more than one... One cannot intentionally misrepresent their own thought and belief to themself. That is, one cannot lie ...

Hey, I'm going to deceive you by telling you what I'm going to do, how I'm going to do it, and when I begin doing so. You wouldn't be deceived, and ne...

My apologies. I'm at a momentary loss here. I presumed that that was obvious. I am rather prone to mistakenly assuming that my interlocutor has read m...

It's not at all irrelevant, my friend. Oblige me... So... This conversation could not be happening if my mother had not given birth to me. You agree w...

If it takes talking about one person as though they were a plurality of different selves in order to make sense of lying to oneself, it seems to me th...

I'm at a loss here... One can most certainly change the way that they look at the world by virtue of changing the way they talk about it and/or themse...