creativesoul

It's no bother Posty... :smile:

And yet... you just did.

What part would you like to see elaborated upon? The rest of the thread has been slowly and steadily elaborating upon exactly those things... I'm unsu...

Witt poses no problem for that which has no precisely measurable spatiotemporal location. Nor is there any reason to believe that we cannot know about...

I've been actively editing it Posty. If you're interested, I'd be more than happy to discuss this in as much or little depth as you like. This is pret...

Rudimentary thought and belief are formed by virtue of the attribution/recognition of both causality and meaning. All attribution/recognition of causa...

I've boldly asserted that everything ever thought, believed, spoken, and/or written consists of and is therefore existentially dependent upon physiolo...

Yeah, in a way. We justify our claims by virtue of using those three(and other) notions as a means to convince others to assent/agree with what we're ...

And yet we have three main concepts of "truth"... Coherence, Correspondence, and Pragmatism.

Double yup. For the reason I've just put forth...

By virtue of truth being necessarily presupposed in all meaningful thought, belief, and statements thereof...

We have arrived at a point where a bit of summarizing seems needed. There is no argument that humans have rather complex thought and belief systems. T...

Rudimentary human thought and belief is already happening long before we are able to carefully consider it by virtue of identifying it and then isolat...

Existential dependency. What must already be the case, or what must be happening, or what must have already happened in order for some thing or other(...

Existence does not require being taken account of. Identity does.

If there were no taking account there would be no identification happening. If there is no identification happening there is no identity. Identity is ...

One finger cannot point at itself.

There's yet another way to look at this... Every example of identity includes something to be thought of and something else to think about that. Ident...

And yet "is true" is. So, "is true" is not equivalent to truth.

Language requires correspondence. Deflation requires language. Deflation requires correspondence.

The deflationary account has issues, but the OP here doesn't talk about them. I've mentioned a few already.

It seems to me that the T-sentence puts correspondence on display, better than any other way I can see. Fully grasping how correspondence 'fits into' ...

Put what you deem to be a valid objection or argument forth. We'll go over it. Let the chips fall where they may.

Not interested. Valid objection against the argument I've presented or a valid argument for your position. Nothing else will suffice.

Your last few posts seem misguided. You argue as if truth is existentially dependent upon language. It's most certainly not. While I would readily agr...

Where there has never been language, there has never been the "law of identity"... If you disagree... be my guest. I've nothing further. I've offered ...

You lost me here...

So you do not believe them. Is that a problem aside from irrelevancy? The conversation is about belief statements.

Problems will certainly arise from conflating verification with truth.

We can say that it's true regardless of whether or not it is, and regardless of whether or not we already know. If you already believe the statement, ...

"A is identical to A" is a customary linguistic practice. We partake in this practice by virtue of positing an undefined entity in two separate instan...

No. Relations are 'between' different things. What does the law of identity have to do with this? I see nothing and could effectively argue that point...

I actually reject this account. Here's why... Adding "is true" to a belief statement adds no additional meaning. That is because all belief presuppose...

I'm not sure what the above has to do with what I claimed. I objected to saying that differences constitute relations.

I'm not sure I would put it like that. Truth is correspondence between meaningful claims and the world. Well, let me re-phrase this... to be perfectly...

You see, the blatant ignorance here is had by assuming that there is no way to possibly measure intelligence. And yet who would argue that a slug is a...

Well, hopefully you would have some standard of measure in place. Preferably one arising from extensive observation and comparative analysis of what a...

Placing a sharper point on it... Saying "the cat is on the mat" involves meaning between "cats" and cats, "mats" and mats, and the phrase "on the" wit...

"Is true" is all about belief, not truth. Again, assuming sincerity. "Is true" is insufficient for truth. Adding "is true" to a belief statement does ...

In the bigger picture, I am quite confident in saying that truth, meaning, thought, and belief are all irrevocably entwined. The fundamental error is ...

It seems to me that there's an underlying conflation in the deflationary account between truth and meaning. Redundancy is all about meaning, not truth...

The problems with the deflationary theory, assuming the account in the OP is accurate, start with a non-sequitur. While adding "is true" to a statemen...

That's just not true. Take an apple out of an apple pie:It's still an apple despite it's no longer being a part of an apple pie. The apple pie is stil...

I don't like the historical notion of essence. I like talking in terms of existential dependency. One can reduce something(not necessarily an object) ...

There's this idea of 'wearing a different hat'... So, it's basically the idea that the same person acts differently in different situations. This revo...

Is Rudy money hungry and starved for fame so much that he could be working for the other side? I mean, it doesn't seem like he's provided much help in...

Well, I could envision many cases where it would be, and many where it would not. But yeah, sometimes it's easier on the person to not know they way t...

The irony here is that all the defenses that are being bandied about are conspiracy theories. That being said, why does it seem so hard for Trump supp...

Collusion isn't a crime for the president or the campaign. That's a legal term in the arena of price/wage fixing. Conspiracy against the United States...

Indict them both if they are both guilty.