creativesoul

Troll? I suppose that would all depend upon what counts as a troll to the person calling him one... Both Russell and Witt are in my group of favorites...

Seems so. I did not make that claim though. :smile:

Well, some of it's not interpersonal. I don't find the question to have some rarely known 'magical' answer that is beyond the grasp of most. Rather, I...

Weren't they already respectable when doing it, or did they become respectable later? Perhaps they were already respectable when they said it, but som...

Anxiety is a horrible experience. Panic is fear-based though, so I'm left wondering... What is there to be afraid of when it comes to 'cosmic stuff'? ...

Part of it is interpersonal... Paying close attention to the affect/effect that one has on others, and recognizing the fact that others have the same ...

There ought be no leaks in a deposition.

Yes and no... Thought and belief are the building block of concepts(on my view), but, that's not exhaustive enough. Correlations drawn between differe...

That's precisely the divide that needs bridged...

Nice discussion. Kudos! :smile:

Indeed, it could get muddy, but it need not. It is most certainly quite complex, but there's also a very basic simplicity about it, as must be the cas...

You've proposed this in past. It's not a good characterization. It's not just a matter of which came first. It's also matter of what both consist of. ...

Be well . All that is needed for you to correct your (mis)understandings has been expressed heretofore... :up:

Strawman.

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More equivocation of the term "conceive"...

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Cause the practice feels so good. Swan beat me to it...

Do it again, I must have missed it..

So... Your equivocating the term "conception" is somehow my fault? :brow:

Equivocating is when an author is using two different senses/acceptable uses/definitions of the same term in the same argument. In this case, you're u...

Wonderful. So I tell myself... what on earth are you still doing arguing with this person when they believe that Spinoza's own life circumstances are ...

You're equivocating the term conception. The irony... given that you've charged Spinoza with self-contradiction and/or incoherence. Sigh...

Fer fuck's sake... The important prevailing philosophical discourse of Spinoza's time revolved around ideas of what it would take to be self-caused, n...

It most certainly is according to Spinoza. It's a particular kind of conception. Self-caused. Infinite. Etc. Sigh... :roll:

Are you claiming that being conceived does not count as conception? That's a simple question with a simple "yes" or "no" answer. Which is it?

:smile: I could be mistaken here, but I'm fairly certain Spinoza's definition of substance also has everything to do with what it would take for somet...

Either being conceived does not count as conception, and you're right, or being conceived does count as conception and you're wrong... Are you claimin...

:smile: Cheers. Til next time.

You've yet to have addressed the issue I've raised here... today. In very simple terms to understand, Spinoza's definition of substance is all the evi...

Yes. I'm no Spinozan scholar, but jeez! I've laid it out as simply as I know how.

I think there's misunderstanding here... All ethics is about acceptable/unacceptable thought, belief, and/or behaviour. That's the claim. Do you disag...

Either being conceived does not count as conception, and you're right, or being conceived does count as conception and you're wrong... Are you claimin...

By substance, I mean that which... ...IS conceived through itself... Further reduced... Substance is conceived.

:rofl: Directly address my last post, if you want me to continue here. If not, I rest my case on it.

Not according to Spinoza... Look for yourself. Either being conceived does not count as conception, and you're right, or substance is conceived throug...

Do those behaviours break the rules of acceptable conduct at your workplace? Are you allowed to act like that?

Ethics is always about acceptable and/or unacceptable thought, belief, and/or behaviour. That's the answer. I stand beside it. Rather than be a blowha...

Concepts begin with naming. They gain in complexity by talking about the referent using it's conceptual identity(name), for doing so is to multiply th...

Ethics is always about acceptable and/or unacceptable thought, belief, and/or behaviour.

Could you rephrase the question? I cannot make much sense out of it.

Of course you're entitled to believe I'm wrong. What if I'm not though? Here's what I find important to keep in mind, for starters at least... Spinoza...

Concepts do not correlate different things. Thinking and believing creatures do, and they do so by virtue of drawing correlations and/or associations ...

Thought and belief. Correlations drawn between different things.

Maybe. :smile: New thread? "What are concepts?" perhaps as a title? The SEP begins with this... Concepts are the building blocks of thoughts. Of cours...

Is it though? How can we know what a concept is existentially dependent upon if we do not know what a concept consists of?

We've had several discussions that widened the gap. That's not to say that every one will. I'm more than willing to continue this one. Are you?

Another broader point, I think, is that in order to determine a relation(or lack thereof) between two concepts, in order to even make a comparison bet...

So, we're talking about methodological approach here, aren't we? I find some of the language quite unhelpful. Unnecessarily complex. If the question i...

Call X a "witch hunt". Build the common false belief that the hunt is looking for "collusion". Perpetuate that belief by continually speaking about it...