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Indirect realists recognise that experience does not extend beyond the body, and so that distal objects are not constituents of experience, and so tha...
April 09, 2024 at 14:36
Assuming that conscious experience is causally determined then yes. Given the same input (the stimulus) and the same processing (the central nervous s...
April 09, 2024 at 14:28
For them to see when standing what we see when hanging upside down it must be that their eyes and/or brain work differently. I’m saying that whether o...
April 08, 2024 at 17:28
I don't see how that's at all relevant to my point. Consider some animal that has eyes in the palms of its hands rather than in its head. To see the "...
April 08, 2024 at 15:15
My understanding is that direct realism entails A Naïve Realist Theory of Colour (and related theories on other sense modalities like smell and taste)...
April 08, 2024 at 14:31
There is no illusion. There are two astronauts in space 150,000km away. Each is upside down relative to the other and looking at the Earth. Neither po...
April 08, 2024 at 12:10
That's not relevant to what I'm saying. When I hang upside down and so see the world upside I'm not hallucinating or seeing an illusion; I am having a...
April 08, 2024 at 11:28
What would a "broken" chain be? Is seeing my face in a mirror an "unbroken" chain and so "direct" perception of my face? Is watching football on TV an...
April 08, 2024 at 10:25
What your eyes and brain do when hanging upside down is conceivably what some other organism's eyes and brain do when standing on their feet. Neither ...
April 07, 2024 at 11:17
What do you mean by the flower’s properties being directly presented? What is the word “directly” doing here? The photo is hung up on my wall. The flo...
April 07, 2024 at 09:48
Why is it that when we hang upside down the world appears upside down? Because given the physical structure of our eyes and the way the light interact...
April 07, 2024 at 09:24
Deductive reasoning is when the conclusion necessarily follows from the premises. Inductive reasoning is when the conclusion doesn't necessarily follo...
April 06, 2024 at 10:56
There are paintings of things that no longer exist and books written by dead authors about past events. So in which presently existing things is such ...
April 06, 2024 at 10:09
I don't think anyone disagrees, but that doesn't say anything to address either direct or indirect realism. It simply states the well known fact that ...
April 06, 2024 at 09:29
I don't see how that answers my question. If visual experience is one thing and rain is another thing then why can't you separate them? Or are you say...
April 05, 2024 at 23:36
Why not? Visual experience does not extend beyond the brain/body, but the rain exists beyond the body, and so they must be separate.
April 05, 2024 at 21:38
I suspect the answer to that is the answer that explains how paintings can have intentional relations to the objects that they purport to be of or how...
April 05, 2024 at 14:27
Also I don't think language is at all relevant and is in fact a red herring. Presumably deaf, illiterate mutes who aren't blind can see colours. It's ...
April 05, 2024 at 09:23
Possibly shared type, but not shared token.
April 05, 2024 at 09:19
/uploads/resized/files/xa/at7193fkqjjbsawr.jpg The claim is that if it's conceivable that Mark and Alice have no relevant physical differences and yet...
April 05, 2024 at 08:55
Fair. I suppose a more appropriate response is to say that any claim that we should or shouldn't do something is true only if hard determinism is fals...
April 03, 2024 at 14:43
Yes. But asking if we should makes no sense, given that we don't have a choice.
April 03, 2024 at 14:41
If hard determinism is true then we don't choose to hold people responsible; we just do. Asking if we should makes no sense.
April 03, 2024 at 12:19
Compatibilism is soft determinism, not hard determinism. If hard determinism is true then compatibilism is false.
April 03, 2024 at 11:48
Your question presupposes that we can choose to hold people responsible or not, i.e. that hard determinism is false. If hard determinism is false then...
April 03, 2024 at 11:07
I suspect so. Global travel increases the likelihood of a global pandemic, excessive industrialisation increases the use of non-renewable resources an...
April 03, 2024 at 10:22
We shall call you Lemmiwinks.
March 21, 2024 at 12:30
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March 21, 2024 at 11:34
That’s an open question too. I don’t think colours and sounds and smells and tastes “map” to objective features at all, and certainly not in a sense t...
March 13, 2024 at 18:49
I see red things when I dream and hallucinate. Those with synesthesia might see red things when they listen to music with their eyes closed in a dark ...
March 13, 2024 at 16:09
It's what the sighted have and the blind (including those with blindsight) don't have. It's what occurs when we dream and hallucinate. If you define "...
March 13, 2024 at 14:58
The odour molecules are perceived. I smell them.
March 13, 2024 at 13:36
As referenced in the aforementioned article Direct Perception: The View from Here, "the view that perception is direct holds that a perceiver is aware...
March 13, 2024 at 13:29
This is where people are getting lost in the grammar. I see colours. Colours are a visual sensation. If you don't like the phrasing of the conclusion ...
March 13, 2024 at 09:06
Yes, I wasn't offering it as a defence of indirect realism. I was offering it as an explanation that the problem of perception concerns whether or not...
March 13, 2024 at 08:58
Dreams, and hallucinations, have various perceptual modes. I see things and hear things and smell things. The things I see and hear and smell when I d...
March 12, 2024 at 22:43
The indirect realist doesn’t claim that we see into own own skull. You’re misrepresenting what is meant by seeing something or feeling something. I fe...
March 12, 2024 at 20:43
What does this mean? The indirect realist recognises that in most cases the causal chain of perception is: distal object ? proximal stimulus ? sense r...
March 12, 2024 at 17:50
I think this and this clearly set out my position.
March 12, 2024 at 15:30
At this point I don't know if we're just speaking different languages. You seem to have a very different understanding of the meanings of the words "a...
March 12, 2024 at 15:17
The directness or indirectness of awareness is the very issue under discussion. I don't understand what you think "perception" or "awareness" mean. Le...
March 12, 2024 at 14:55
@"Luke" Also, you missed something I added in: What if, say, the cake has since been taken away and eaten, but the smell lingered. What am I (directly...
March 12, 2024 at 14:35
If awareness of sensations is direct and awareness of objects is indirect then perception of objects is indirect. So? Why is the object of perception ...
March 12, 2024 at 14:34
If we are directly aware of sensations and not directly aware of distal objects then we do not directly perceive distal objects. The odour molecules i...
March 12, 2024 at 13:55
Sensations are the intermediary that sit between rational awareness and distal objects. A sweet smell is not a property of some distal object but an o...
March 12, 2024 at 12:49
I read it, and nothing about it conflicts with indirect realism.
March 12, 2024 at 12:27
You're just reasserting the irrelevant argument about grammar. The indirect realist says that the painting is just paint. The intentionalist says that...
March 12, 2024 at 12:24
Everything you say here is consistent with indirect realism. Sensations/sense-data/qualia are (usually) caused by stimulation by some distal object. T...
March 12, 2024 at 12:19
I'm simply explaining that the "semantic" approach seems to miss the point. You say you smell a cake. I say I'm watching Joe Biden's inauguration. The...
March 12, 2024 at 08:23
Your account is akin to saying: I'm not watching pixels activate on my television screen, I'm watching Joe Biden's inauguration. This "semantic" direc...
March 12, 2024 at 06:57