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Stage 1 and 2 find their counterpart in chapters 1-3 of Revelation: the entreaty to overcome. Stage 3: destruction of the old self. Stage 4: creation ...

Stage one and two: 1. Recognition and revolt. 2. The encounter with the will to self-transcendence. The first stage is recognition and revolt. Recogni...

Don't mind at all. At work at the moment but I may attempt a rough draft of an answer. My prose is better when I'm on my couch. :smile:

You're welcome, obviously it's a very personal subject for me. :smile:

It happened by accident. I connected John's Revelation to Campbell's take on the hero myth. Descent to the underworld followed by rebirth and dissemin...

I do: more inspiration, more insight, more compassion, more agape, more self- and world-illumination, more wisdom... ... increased creative prowess, m...

Glad you're getting something out of it. :smile:

What do you mean by the evolution of Earth consciousness?

Don't bring a fact to a feeling fight.

They've gotten lazy.

hehe, it's late

A Nietzschean logic is a manybranching monstrosity. Grotesque poisonous Yggdrasil - for the healing of the nations?!...

I was thinking strictly of the passage quoted in the OP. An all-inclusive conception of Nietzsche's oeuvre is beyond my capacity and interest. From Su...

One way or the other. Well put.

Sitting at the foot of the master. Take care.

That's your adolescent game, not mine. I don't measure my success in thread pages. Truly jejune. Rather, in self-illumination, vitality, wakefulness, ...

Has a Nietzschean ring to it. Or is that Machiavelli? At any rate, your good-faith/bad-faith shtick is far more adolescent than the provocations of Ni...

I agree with this: a revaluation of all values is a perennial necessity.

It seems evil to me.

Your specific justification for a figurative reading?...

Right. Hold fast to your agenda. It's a poet's praise for what I consider a great and beautiful - world-illuminating - inspiring and invigorating - pa...

Again, he says: One should help the botched and weak to perish. If you have a specific justification for a figurative reading, I'm all ears. As to who...

Where do you see that happening?

If you had read what I wrote instead of jumping in half-cocked you would know I wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment.

No one who has would denigrate the prophets. I'll take your word for it. To my lights you have no idea what you're talking about. I don't throw that p...

If you'd ever had a single moment of self-illumination you might have some idea what you're talking about.

It can be interpreted that way. I call it a truckload of charity. If I said it, I think you would call it an evil thing to say.

Yep, he's a shock jock; yep, the horse scene.

He's a complicated man, certainly not pure evil, but has said things I'm comfortable with calling evil. It would take a truckload of charity not to ca...

Then go away.

Gotcha. I might look into it and post here.

If you had an ounce of humility you would have a pound of self-contempt.

As usual, you respond via your agenda and not to what I wrote. Take care.

Good to hear from you. If you have time I'd love to have a reference. I've read a lot of Nietszche but it's been awhile.

It would work just as well to call it the hard problem of awareness.

The value of ataraxia.

I don't care much for him either - I admire a few passages from Zarathustra.

Your arrogance inhibits your capacity to learn. You're not a tenth the philosopher 180 Proof has proved himself to be.

You're confusing methodology with ontology.

Thanks for the interesting and fact-based post.

How do you read it and what is your justification for a non-literal reading?

Possibly everyone on this forum wants it. We all seem to want to improve our minds. But it's a leap of false charity to say everyone wants it. I've be...

I think he felt like the botched and the weak stood in the way of humankind's evolution. And literally felt it would benefit humankind to do them in. ...

I see him as passionately reactionary. I don't think he had the old tribes in mind. More what he saw as an animalesque devolution or slothful self-sat...

It says help the botched and weak to perish. I suppose an (over-) charitable interpretation could downplay that - but to my view, there's no reason no...

Nope, never heard of it. Is it a good one? I miss the Na'vi - did you design your new avatar? Pretty sweet.

Well, certainly there's nothing impressive about a dog being a dog. I see you snuck in the word "resist" alongside "transcend." A self-resistant (if y...

Dead serious. A monster:

A bit of an exaggeration. In the opening pages of Zarathustra - to my view, Nietzsche's purest moment of visionary insight - the Superman is set out a...