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This thread flows out of a discussion of the link between mystical and schizophrenic experience. https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/12996/mysti...

You don't need gods to be a mystic, and you don't need gods to have a mystical experience.

Feel free to take the thread wherever you like. :smile:

That's the whole bit.

:up: wasn't sure about the best way to get you there

Check the edit. :smile:

This thread is a continuation of another thread: I'm trying to link you to it: Click on ZzzoneiroCosm below. :smile:

This rings true. The Mad Pride movement is an effort to reenvision the relation of the sane and the mad.

No doubt.

Ha, never hurts to add another good one-syllabler to the loadout. I used it, then double-checked the etymology....

Is there then no such thing as non-sense? @"Banno". What up. This is right up your alley. :smile:

I can understand that "a round square" is incoherent by juxtaposing the concepts round and square. I get that. But I can't understand what a round squ...

My position would be that you didn't actually understand. That nothing understandable was said. Let's see what the others have to say. :smile:

I'm not overly interested in this subject but thought it might be fun to hear from the town square: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/13041/if...

I think you can create a space where mystical experience is more accessible. But a focus on the external can promise false hopes and can be a roadbloc...

That's a fundamental disagreement and our dialogic terminus.

Is it not only the coherent that can be understood?

What - precisely - do you find incoherent about this? Is it correct to say that X is incoherent but I understand X.

If you understand it, then you can use it. That's all you need. Understanding and use.

Do you have the experience of location, of darkness and light; the experience of objects, of sensations (pain, hunger, desire, boredom), of thoughts a...

Absolutely. The purity of the Utopian Light at times points to genocidal cleansing as the fast track to heaven. An ugliest Marriage of Heaven and Hell...

"Speer, you are a great architect. We missed thousands of hours with this magnificent Macquette. No skyscrapers or hotels, but a center. A treasure ro...

:clap: Good point. https://youtu.be/CE_crkd4fe4

I get that an allegorical reading of the Bible is a sensible approach. But - as something of a mystic myself - the weird words of the prophets I recei...

Man on Fire :fire: :heart: :fire: https://youtu.be/08WeoqWilRQ

That's sweet. :hearts: :heart: :hearts: :heart: But I only get the mystical sort lately... :fire: :heart: :fire:

haiku I call to god, a blue flower in my throat, and rest in the breathing sky

As Saviors of God - while we are only human, god is only human. See: Nikos Kazantzakis' The Saviors of God.

As the apostles are fond of saying: This is a difficult teaching. There's plenty of the shock-jock reactionary in Blake - as in Isaiah and pals. An an...

P.S.

One inspiring dude. They anthologize the Songs of Innocence and Experience and other beautiful but harmless tidbits - but they wouldn't dare expose th...

Indeed, to Blake's lights, "the Human Imagination" is precisely "the Bosom of God."

I suppose the nasty is another bit of fallout from the stigma attached to seeking help. It's clear that schopenhauer1's best first step to improve the...

It's clear to me he would benefit - as would most of us (I consider it nearly universal) - from contact with a skillful counselor or psychotherapist. ...

We've done the back and forth a bit and I'm rarely surprised by the trajectory. As a psychotherapist-to-be, my instinct is to try to help. But neither...

...But sadly only convinces one that the world would be a far more charming and cheerful place (indeed, in which to unconscionably suffer!) with fewer...

I can't speak to authenticity writ large, but there's no question the catastrophic has played a decisive role in my personal quest for the authentic s...

Here's a place to talk about it. The symbology is confusing as hell but in the context of a psychological reading, the general thrust and arc are non-...

gotcha

His is a fine rabbit hole to spelunk.

The entire Revelation - nothing like it to my knowledge in the history of prophetic lit. Incomparable awakened energy. Every other poet-prophet should...

Gotcha, I missed the reference. Thanks! :blush:

I have volumes one and two. I wonder if you have a reference for this idea. Thanks!

This is inspiration to spend more time with this unusual book. Would you be willing to expand on the notion of utopia-as-engagement? As a generalizati...

Can you link me to this document? Thanks! Google gives me puzzling results.

Hi Kevin. It's great to make this connection with you. The forum is fairly averse to discussions of personal mystical experience, but I think the loun...

It's my view that the Utopian vision is central to psychospiritual growth. Not much else to say. Maybe I'll spend some time with the book this summer ...

I don't have much to contribute here but I have the book in my library and enjoy picking it up from time to time. I hope I can devote more time to it ...

:yum: A clown for every hamlet. :scream: