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Fair enough. Point is, not all seemingly pious folks care much for what amounts to a pretty big challenge to civilization as we know it.

IOW, you don't know and you don't care. Après moi le déluge. Such an attitude is irresponsible and therefore unjust. According to papa Francesco, it i...

So what is the right thing to do about global warming?

Well then, forgo theology. God couldn't care less, as in Job's final chapter He doesn't have to justify His acts to us. Our mental tools are only of a...

Yes, I could not agree more.

That's only pointing to more conceptual confusion. I think we can confidently conclude from human experience since Plato that not all pious person is ...

But you do exactly the same. You too try to box gods into your own logic. You are forgetting that if god(s) created the world, then the logical rules ...

He does not even register Job's concerns as worthy of His attention, 'cause where was Job when God built the world? That's the whole point. The creatu...

I suspect a simple conceptual confusion is at the root of this charade. It may be that the dialogue assumes as obvious what I shall call the transacti...

Ok, makes sense. So the pious (he who loves the gods) is expecting that the gods will love him in return and hence favor him in this world. This impli...

Or perhaps vice versa, given that "god" seems to function in this thread as a place-holder for our "best self", our moral sense, what we believe is ou...

Thus pointing at situations where piety may be detrimental to being good. E.g. human sacrifices.

Thus pointing at situations where piety may be detrimental to being good. E.g. human sacrifices.

I am a great fan of the comparison between philosophers and plumbers, and have used it on TPF several times. One advantage is that it deflates philoso...

But trivial... Science or the economy are not absolute either by this definition, and neither is the coffee that I'm drinking right now. If nothing is...

Everything exists in relation to other things, though.

What would it take for evil to be legitimately described as "absolute", in your opinion?

Youtube algorithms brought up those two guys. It's like inspired country music, or seriously deep folk music. Listening so far, not going into the lyr...

I found this translation of The Spanking, pretty mischievous: The widow and the orphan, what could be more moving? An old school friend of mine died l...

Most welcome, and thanks for La Jeanne which I didn't know. Brassens was one of a kind, a UFO from some lyrically anarchist planet. After praying Mary...

All this to say that there is no evidence that the number of gods is equal to 1. Could be 2, 3, 4, a dozen, a million, or 0. There could be 3.75 gods ...

Quiz: How many gods and goddesses are you able to identify on this Raffaello fresco? https://caligraphite.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/raffaello_concil...

3 is the current number of gods. There's always one god who thinks the other two are against her, so they can't agree on anything. That's why the worl...

And that too is theory...

Not sure any economic theory "holds water" though. Marx helped us understand capitalism a bit better, but nobody ever has the final word. That seems g...

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You don't know me. I have impeccable anticommunist credentials. Theoretically, Popper's radical critique of all historicism including communism is wha...

I commented on them repeatedly. If all you are trying to do is piss off random people on the interwebs, you're doing okay. Not great but okay. If you ...

To pretend that a quote says X when it says Y, is a lie. To post the same quotes several time, when once suffices, is the behavior of a mindless troll...

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Yes, that would come close to a fair historical judgement in my view.

It has to do with my suspicion that you are just another scatterbrain MAGA internet warrior, busying himself with insulting Marx and Engels ad nauseam...

Well, that's you I guess. What about being a black slave in the antebellum South? Would you like that better than being a Jew under Hitler, or a farme...

If I ever wish to reply to one of your posts in the future, I promise you that I will read it very carefully first.

You are repeating yourself. I would rather be a farmer under Stalin than a Jew under Hitler.

That's usually how people are impactful: by convincing other people to act. I disagree. I think he was genuine and correct on many issues, like his an...

Marx has been the most impactful philosopher of all times, if one excludes Jesus from the race. He inspired millions of people to do things that were ...

Fair enough. Nobody did much to try and stop the Holocaust. Even the people in the known and able to do something impactful, like the allied, did very...

Georges Brassens was never a believer ; he lambasted priests for a living, and used gods in his verses “only for poetic reasons”. Yet he could recogni...

Any time now, the anti-papists are going to tell us all the good deeds done by the Lutherans, the Evangelicals and the Methodists to stop to Holocaust...

If that's your story, go for it

The apology was for not having done anything to stop the Holocaust, not for "their role in the Holocaust". Try again, with less hatred in your heart.

Facile anti Catholic hatred aside, it is a fact that the Catholic Church resisted Nazism to a greater degree than any other Christian denomination. It...

I was not critiquing anything, mind you.

I would place chattel slavery on a par with the Holocaust in terms of the atrocities committed, so I concede the point that monotheists can do pretty ...

Complementarity of skills is a good thing in a couple. But there need to be some common ground on values I believe. You must know the saying: Marriage...

La nuit dormait dans son verseau, Les chèvres buvaient au rio, Nous allions au hasard Et nous vivions encore plus forts Malgré le frette et les barbar...

Why yes. So your point is? Marx achieved far more than Hitler. You can say what you want of Stalin but the USSR was a country of peasants in 1917, and...

I didn't. Stop being so confrontational. Just because I didn't mention the moon's of Jupiter either doesn't mean I FORGOT them. The concentration camp...

Indeed. The best you can do is ally yourself politically, maritally or otherwise with some who do share enough of your values, in the hope of promotin...