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Okay, a knowledge that Euthyphro and his followers lack, full of their own certitude.

A concept, in other words. Plato tried to eek out the meaning of concepts by interrogating them. That's a style of enquiry more that a metaphysical me...

Plato had a fetish for Forms? What else is new?

He's talking of what we nowadays call concepts, and their definition. He is asking "define piety". Your "interpretation" of Plato is still extremely b...

Our friends are saying that Plato believed in forms and used that concept in Euthyphro, and therefore that this MUST be the message of Euthyphro. That...

Your interpretation is quite trite though, and could potentially apply to any of Plato's work. Looks more like the traditional conceptual frame of ref...

What suggestion is that? That the moral of the dialogue is "there are forms and ideas"? Sounds a bit dry.

Average, and therefore worthy of some scorn by the wise... But I think you are not picking up the clues Plato left about Euthyphro's venality and ruth...

Or to use his expertise. From the dialogue, we can assume that Euthyphro thinks he is quite skilled at manipulating this particular tribunal. So bring...

And he would have written a dialogue about it, right? Where this Euthyphro superstitious character would be a fool, unable to justify himself... I've ...

And according to your interpretation, Plato would have agreed with his teacher Socrates' scapegoating. Unlike piety, money can be quantified, stored, ...

But then, what is the metaphysical or moral message of that interpretation? Do all you can to cleanse yourself/your house/your city of impiety, even i...

Alright. What are some of the other possible interpretations then? Let's try and be constructive here.

True. And vice versa, it is easy to hide evil under the guise of religion.

If all those who think the discussion is a waste of time could kindly walk their talk and leave this thread, perhaps the discussion would be less of a...

This is good for working, though a bit hypnotic like house music can be. It's about rhythm in life and speech in an African context. Not without its c...

This thread is dedicated to the relevance to our personal philosophies of modern popular songs and musics -- jazz, blues, rock, pop, to which I add a ...

Welcome. I love Casal for her music, now realize that the lyrics are a bit bland... Anyway. Deep is relative.

We don't know that the text implies that. Plato may not have remembered the dates so well. Naxos could just be a place reasonably far away from Athens...

You are welcome to totally ignore me, sweetie pie.

I don't really care about what you disputed and what not. This is not about you.

As I said, in Luke 10 the Jesus character is involved in a dialogue with another fellow, just like the character Socrates in Euthyphro. Both dialogues...

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For good measure... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saGVUfqTZZY And I don't care about it at all Whether you laugh or dream, what you say or what you ...

The horizon is a dark line, with no option Two bodies that were once one Break that union They gave way to indifference and disappointment I know it w...

Yes, "our" Wayfarer. :-) He also plays the piano. BTW, he titled it (or subtitled it?) "For Sophia", aka our good friend Wisdom.

You and I are everlasting lovers And I know this love will never die We will drift like clouds across the sky And watch the world spin by A lover's pa...

Spot on. This world is just too generously rich in infinite details and complexity to qualify as a simulation.

I mentioned Luke, not John, and the good Samaritan parable, which I assumed everyone knew about. But that was evidently not the case. For the edificat...

Basically, Amity and I complained to our beloved Euthyp... err... sorry, Apollodorus about his personal vendetta cluttering the thread, then Frank jok...

Not completely without reason; I believe he just chose a plausible location for his story. For the story to work, it had to be far away from Athens be...

Likewise, Euthyphro being real or not is a meaningless detail which makes no difference whatsoever to the philosophical meaning of the story. Which to...

Exactly. Any plausible place for the story.

That makes no difference. Whoever invented the story might have chosen whatever location came to his mind.

No offense, but Umberto Eco said somewhere that there can be such a thing as over-interpretation. It's about ignoring the noise/signal distinction. A ...

I take it as one of these details a skilful writer will include in his prose to make his story sound real and grounded in one place or another.

What's the essential difference between a skull and a vat?

Why yes. Sometimes though, one encounters the phenomenon of schism: imagine you like two philosophers, and in studying them you happen to read a virul...

What would be the relevance of the Naxos reference?

Do you define yourself as anti-materialist? Reminds me of some blogger who defines herself as a "chocolate mint hater". I hate chocolate mint too, and...

AP is less of a school of thought with its own tenets than a manner of thought in my view, if not a mannerism i.e. a style that progressively turned i...

Careful here. Collingwood did contribute his "2 cents"; Popper and Whitehead too, to mention only two other non-analytic philosophers. The fact that a...

Hi Amity, always a pleasure to share with you. :-) Guess I should return to the deep songs page.

Perhaps they just lacked imagination, constrained as they were in a narrowly insular mentality. The quote above is saying in essence: "Our thinkers ar...

It's never been entirely alive, the way I see it, more like a half-dead zombie philosophy, by virtue of what analysis is. It's about cutting ideas int...

The Catholic Church's corruption dates back to when it became the dominant religion in the empire. Power corrupts. The Protestants only smelled the co...

IDK. That could be a mistake of the author, writing after the fact and getting dates and places wrong. Besides, maybe one could still work the fields ...

The reader naturally understands that contrary to Socrates, Euthyphro is misguided, foolish, and bent on accusing his father in a court of law. Hence ...

He is a greedy fool plotting for his father's death or banishment, possibly for the heritage.

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