Wayfarer

I've only just now noticed this earlier comment of yours, and I commend you for it. The idea is that modern science assumes a strict division between ...

I’m not claiming that perceptual convergence explains what ultimately exists; I’m claiming that any account of what exists has to start from the fact ...

From whence do the pre-sentient denizens of the cosmos derive 'a perspective'? Unlike our various panpsychist friends, I'm loath to admit they have an...

But it can, though. We live in a shared world, because we have highly convergent minds, sensory systems, and languages. So we will converge on similar...

There’s an anecdote I sometimes re-tell that bears on this point. It concerns the arrival of the Endeavour in Botany Bay during James Cook’s voyage in...

I hear you! Obviously this is a deep and difficult question, but again, my orientation is shaped by my reading of Buddhist philosophy. You will recall...

Individuals - the person, the ego, individual self - are contingent as a matter of necessity. Interesting that the term 'individual' used to denote th...

‘There are no necessary truths’ is self contradictory, because if it is true then it is necessarily so.

Right! I was going to add that the salient point of the Schopenhauer passage is the ‘co-arising of mind and world’ which becomes central in later phen...

Beg to differ. Schop as one of Kant’s principle interpreters is very much part of the phenomenological lineage. Not that any of them endorse him whole...

But that question is still being asked from an external perspective i.e. treating consciousness as a phenomenon, something that exists or may not exis...

Do you recall that that blog post about Schopenhauer that you posted - how time began with the first eye that opened?

Yes. That is plain materialism. Of course it can. It can be played on another instrument, recorded, or transcribed into notation. In every case the mu...

Pretty well how I see it also.

Notice that the term 'immaterial' came up a couple of times, first in this post of 180's and then shortly after by Janus (they seem to be in furious a...

Yes, I know what you mean. I'm actually looking at The Idea of the World again as I write this - I bought the Kindle edition a year ago. The chapter I...

Caution needed here. I think Kastrup's natural tendency is much more convergent with the Hindu mok?a than Christan eschatology, Are Vedantic or Buddhi...

In Kastrup’s analytic idealism, everything is mental in origin but not everything is a subject of experience. Non-living objects are the extrinsic app...

You're the one who made the suggestion in the first place: And then: You're still seeing the debate through the apparent dichotomy of material/immater...

I think you’re right that phenomenology alone doesn’t “explain” why the world is intelligible — but Bitbol’s point is that intelligibility isn’t the k...

The comparison to a 'spiritual belief' misses the mark because energy is a strictly defined physical property, not a metaphysical posit. While it isn'...

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However, the subject is not.

None of which is the point, as you acknowledge. The point is, the term ‘immaterial’ has appeared twice in this discussion, the assertion being that I ...

On the contrary, you’re already imagining yourself able to make the distinction between the world as it appears, and how it truly is, when that is the...

I think there’s an inherent contradiction in the question you’re wanting to pose. At issue was the discussion between Janus and myself, regarding ‘mat...

it means, can't be eliminated from the reckoning. The salient point is again that in pursuit of objectivity, the presence or contribution of the subje...

I don't think the passage you're citing does present a 'metaphysical position'. Looking at it part by part: 'For Bitbol, phenomenology is the real sta...

What 'metaphysical claim' do you think is being made? There's a categorical distinction you seem to be missing. Where in the world of apples and pogo ...

Incidentally the article on which the OP was based can be found here Is Consciousness Primary? (.pdf) A representative passage:

And you say I'm putting words in your mouth :rofl: Thank you, I value your opinion. This is, as said, an introduction - as much for me as for the read...

Here was the original exchange. If you wish to recapitulate it, perhaps it belongs in that thread. And indeed "...so there is something more here than...

I see it like this: you are still very much under the sway of post-Cartesian dualism. Accordingly you habitually interpret what I write, and what Bitb...

What are 'material conditions' and why are they significant?

Not so much begin with it, as remember that it has been forgotten, and why. Phenomenology is ameliorative of that, but I do know that most Anglo philo...

Why thank you. But there is no 'one correct view' being promulgated here. One of Bitbol's video talks I reviewed was about the idea that Buddhist 'mid...

Descartes is undoubtedly an influence (although I will also mention that this is another example of your 'presentism', that virtually all philosophy b...

I think you're misreading it, but I won't press the point. I'm a beginner with Bitbol and much of phenomenology. But it resonates with me on several f...

Sort of. Our families are now far-flung and there's not many at the table. But, thanks, and same to you. And, not really sure how that cuts against th...

Nothing in the OP, or anything I've said about it, suggests an 'immaterial consciousness', although the fact that it will always be so construed by yo...

Indeed it does, but outside that imaginative act what remains? The point of Bitbol's line of criticism, is that both the subject and the objects of sc...

Phenomenology has a role in understanding mental illness by taking proper account of the first-person experiences of subjects. Some references: Phenom...

Well, hate to come across as unfriendly, but I think this is a mistake, and a mistake that characterises a lot of shoddy thinking in modern culture. E...

Energy per se is devoid of intelligence. What you’re seeing is the projection of your own mind.

Nope. Not the point. The profound point is that there are real degrees of reality.

(I have to briefly sign back in - shhhh - to mention an article I've found interesting, about how Heisenberg re-purposed Aristotle's 'potentia' in res...

On that note, I’ll be signing out for Christmas. My dear other has made it clear that festive time is not ideally spent arguing with my invisible frie...

I agree, with an important qualification. I wouldn’t claim that I personally possess privileged insight into “the way things truly are.” But I do thin...

Not at all. He doesn mention Kant, but he doesn't go into all the intricacies. That's one of the good things about that book - mercifully free of jarg...

Pinter’s book, Mnd and the Cosmic Order, is a cognitive science book, not a book about transcendental idealism.It definitely has a philosophical compo...