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...and convert to Protestantism.
November 19, 2017 at 22:50
All of which is beside the point, but if we can go for 48 pages with you not getting the point, then I will leave it at that.
November 19, 2017 at 22:48
Cultural misotheism. It does push buttons. It was worse on the old forum, if that's any consolation. I do read Feser's blog, and am meaning to read so...
November 19, 2017 at 22:22
Spirit, perhaps?
November 19, 2017 at 22:05
That is the whole point of this thread. The meaning can be represented by entirely different symbols, languages, media types and so on - so 'the meani...
November 19, 2017 at 21:51
I do indeed regard Plato as an objective idealist, in that he believed the Forms or Ideas were real, i.e. they were not simply the creations of indivi...
November 19, 2017 at 21:45
This thread is about Platonic realism, about which you show little interest. I have owned up to not being highly educated in that field, but at least ...
November 19, 2017 at 20:32
But the discussion is about the ability to understand and interpret abstract ideas. It is not absurd to say that animals are not able to do that. And ...
November 19, 2017 at 20:26
That is interesting, I will consider that. Perhaps there's a distinction to be made between 'information' and 'idea'. However what is required to unde...
November 19, 2017 at 20:07
Yeah because QM broke the atom, that's why.
November 19, 2017 at 04:17
The historical process was not so much about atomism, although that plays a role. The key development was the ascension of nominalism, which means tha...
November 19, 2017 at 03:56
I know this thread has wandered all over the place, but am hesitant to pursue this line of thought here. So I will refrain from responding here, but I...
November 19, 2017 at 02:59
Greek ship, three masted, arriving after noon. Griechisches Schiff, drei Masten, Ankunft nach Mittag. Navire grec, à trois mâts, arrivant après midi. ...
November 19, 2017 at 02:55
The starting point of Platonism is that ‘the Forms’ are purely intelligible, i.e. they’re seen by the intellect in an act of pure intuition. Appealing...
November 19, 2017 at 02:10
How does it work? Is it the consequence of molecular action, as Dennett says? If not, then how is it ‘internal?’ Cosider Bergson’s ‘Elan vital’ - that...
November 19, 2017 at 01:59
My view is, the physical exists - as I said in that quote on objective idealism, I don’t deny scientific or even common-sense realism - but the physic...
November 18, 2017 at 23:56
In philosophy, Immanent and transcendent are mutually-defined, i.e. like ‘high’ and ‘low’ or ‘left’ and ‘right’. Been meaning to write an OP about tha...
November 18, 2017 at 23:47
I know what I wanted to say here. The debate about naturalism comes down to whether the world is 'self-organising' or whether it's 'organised by an ex...
November 18, 2017 at 23:34
I'm sorry, but humans didn't construct DNA. In any case, it's beside the point. Your initial statement is incorrect, i.e. information does not depend ...
November 18, 2017 at 23:23
There's always DNA.
November 18, 2017 at 23:15
This thread isn't about the immediacy of experience as such. What I'm trying to get at in this thread is the reality of the idea - I'm arguing for obj...
November 18, 2017 at 23:12
You kant be serious ;-)
November 18, 2017 at 22:36
'The immediacy of mystical experience' really has nothing to do with the topic of this OP.
November 18, 2017 at 22:33
If he had stuck to his biological knitting I would have had no reason to discuss his books on a philosophy forum. It's the inferences he draws from bi...
November 18, 2017 at 22:31
According to Plato, that's because the Universe is fashioned on the basis of an eternal model. There's nothing in what you say that contradicts that.
November 18, 2017 at 22:23
Welcome to the Forum. Fair points. I think I am inclined towards dualism, albeit not of the Cartesian type; 'mind' is not a 'substance' in the Cartesi...
November 18, 2017 at 21:29
Hence, the requirement for an argument for the indispensability of mathematics, required because, according to it, ‘our best epistemic theories seem t...
November 18, 2017 at 07:44
No, hadn’t heard that, although in the current climate, the question ‘who is next’ certainly looms large. *** Dawkins is known for, not only being cri...
November 18, 2017 at 06:47
Actually that was in reference to the Timaeus, particularly in this section. Plato speaks of a ‘craftsman’ or demiurge who ‘fashions’ the Universe fro...
November 18, 2017 at 06:03
Well, thank you, but not at all persuaded. However, pleased to have reached a civil disagreement over such a momentous issue.
November 18, 2017 at 00:50
I don’t believe I do. Well, back to the Wieseltier review that started this thread: Bolds added.
November 18, 2017 at 00:47
Well, this is where I think your appeal to the Aristotelian notion of 'final cause' doesn't really stack up. In Aristotle's scheme, final causes work ...
November 18, 2017 at 00:27
I can't recall what you said in this particular matter, it would be helpful if you could provide some indication.
November 17, 2017 at 23:34
To what does one refer in relation to the nature of God, if not that? It is the background of this entire debate. I've read Dawkins' characterisation ...
November 17, 2017 at 23:34
I suppose it's a case of abductive inference - arguing from effect to cause. I prefer the traditional belief that 'the heavens bespeak the divine word...
November 17, 2017 at 23:06
Perhaps you might spell out the end-point of the 'thermodynamic imperative' - what it is all heading towards. This, I presume, will be what you see as...
November 17, 2017 at 22:20
But the entire point is that Plato was concerned with a real basis for value, an objective 'domain of values'. That is the sense in which Platonist ph...
November 17, 2017 at 22:05
I recall many prior conversations with your good self about 'the ground of being', in terms of Paul Tillich, Pseudo-Dionysius, the Christian mystical ...
November 17, 2017 at 21:57
Whitehead and Hartsthorne - I’ve read a little (mainly due to Prothero). I’ve given up on Spinoza - I did a semester on him in undergraduate studies b...
November 17, 2017 at 21:46
The point of the above, is that the original conception behind the distinction of form and substance, was drawn from Plato’s conception of ‘the forms’...
November 17, 2017 at 21:21
If they’re not, then how are they theologies at all? Personally I think ‘supernatural’ gets a bad rap, it’s become a boo-word, something which no resp...
November 17, 2017 at 21:14
This is where you keep getting unstuck. You keep arguing about whether ‘the same’ means ‘the same’, or whether it means something else. Whether your i...
November 17, 2017 at 21:10
My point is, to insist that religions can be explained naturalistically is obviously to deny their central claim of a reality ‘above nature’ (i.e. ‘su...
November 17, 2017 at 20:49
Trump lies continuously , but he’s very effective at using lies to distract from lies.
November 17, 2017 at 07:42
Reasonable mark and comment in my view.
November 17, 2017 at 07:32
Beliefs get their validity because of personal prerogative - individuals deserve respect as they have a right to believe as they wish - but religion i...
November 17, 2017 at 07:27
Incidentally, speaking of 'definitions of religion' - notoriously difficult though they might be - I found a pretty good start on Maverick Philosopher...
November 17, 2017 at 06:16
OK, I didn't really start this thread to re-discuss the issues that caused me to quote from the review that I started the thread with, but as we're no...
November 17, 2017 at 06:03
Well, fair enough. When I read it, around the time of that review, how it struck me was of a piece with all of Dennett's other work, which is invariab...
November 17, 2017 at 05:31
IN the context of a discussion about Platonic philosophy, the 'higher plane of being' is the domain of forms. Given that there is doubt about whether ...
November 17, 2017 at 05:04