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It is indeed a part of what I meant! But the additional point is that what is denoted by the symbol is an intellectual act, not a phenomenal existent....
November 15, 2025 at 23:11
Because a lot of your comments come off as if you're trolling. You're clearly educated, but in threads like this, you're not addressing the issue, bey...
November 15, 2025 at 21:25
Whereas I think you're exemplifying the problem that the OP is seeking to explain.
November 15, 2025 at 20:48
And not a valid one. The mark is a symbol. What it represents is a mathematical value, not an object.
November 15, 2025 at 20:27
You'd think!
November 15, 2025 at 12:24
If I ask you to point to the number 7, what would you actually point to? At most, you could indicate a token—a mark on paper, a glyph on a screen, or ...
November 15, 2025 at 12:15
For the record, I will never accept eliminativism because it denies the very thing that makes knowing, questioning, arguing, or explaining possible in...
November 15, 2025 at 05:08
The data recorded by such devices can’t be an illusion until it is interpreted by a user. Otherwise it’s just pixels. LLMs are different, as the opera...
November 15, 2025 at 04:59
Schopenhauer says time began with the first eye opening.
November 15, 2025 at 04:29
I'm mainly going on the SEP entry Refutation of Idealism. After the first edition of COPR came out, Kant was annoyed by the fact that many critics acc...
November 15, 2025 at 03:32
Fair enough. I'll concede that. For what it's worth, I think the Cartesian 'dream argument' is defeated in principle by Kant's 'refutation of idealism...
November 15, 2025 at 02:56
Yes, well, if you're saying that their research disproves the 'simulation' idea, but not, in principle, Descartes 'dream' argument, I guess I can see ...
November 15, 2025 at 02:39
Here, I want to come back to the reality of intelligibles. Scientific principles, mathematical relations, and the natural numbers are not dependent on...
November 15, 2025 at 02:28
There’s actually a vast literature on whether or in what sense scientific laws exist, whether they’re laws etc.
November 15, 2025 at 00:32
It’s an artifact as such an extension of human capabilities.
November 15, 2025 at 00:30
I’ve noticed Peirce’s distinctions, mainly through interactions with @apokrisis over the years, and have read up on them a little. I find them useful ...
November 14, 2025 at 23:40
Many would agree with you.
November 14, 2025 at 23:22
Besides - the article says ‘ We have demonstrated that it is impossible to describe all aspects of physical reality using a computational theory of qu...
November 14, 2025 at 23:02
Me too but I’m also aware that may be a metaphorical expression.
November 14, 2025 at 23:00
I don’t think Plato himself said that. His ‘demiurge’ was not strictly speaking the same as the biblical creator. Those conceptions came much later wi...
November 14, 2025 at 22:56
What the research proposes is a domain of abstract mathematical structure—symmetries, constraints, and relations—from which the behaviour of physical ...
November 14, 2025 at 22:36
I think any useful metaphysic has to be able to disinguish reality, being and existence. These terms all have overlapping meanings, but they’re not ex...
November 14, 2025 at 21:42
I've been a Dennett antagonist ever since before joining this Forum. I thought the title of his book Consciousness Explained was ridiculously pompous ...
November 14, 2025 at 21:03
Oh, no I didn't write it, but I feel it supports the point I was making in my comment. I heard about that article on another forum a couple of years a...
November 14, 2025 at 11:12
I’ve always felt that the basic idea behind the myth of the Fall of Man is indispensable in understanding the human condition (not that I necessarily ...
November 14, 2025 at 03:35
I have never posited consciousness as a 'thinking thing' or as an homuncular entity. And an illusion is something that only a mind can entertain. Alth...
November 14, 2025 at 02:54
Of course! Neither you or @"Patterner" are the kinds of reductive materialists that Bitbol (and Chalmers) have in their sights - but plenty are, and t...
November 13, 2025 at 23:49
I think that is just a tad cynical.
November 13, 2025 at 23:29
I should add a caveat about McGinn. His “mysterian” view is useful in one narrow sense: he at least takes the reality of consciousness seriously, and ...
November 13, 2025 at 21:20
Another snippet from Michel Bitbol, this one from a paper Is Consciousness Primary? (I’m on a Bitbol bender at the moment.) It is an example of how th...
November 13, 2025 at 20:46
All of this still operates entirely within the materialist frame. It searches for an objective correlate—some measurable physical proxy—that can be ma...
November 13, 2025 at 06:57
For that matter, why is THIS thread on the front page? :brow:
November 13, 2025 at 04:46
Fair enough. What with today's climate shenanigans in Australian politics, I'm sensitive to the downplaying of it, that's all.
November 13, 2025 at 04:39
A lot of really bad things can happen, short of civilizational collapse. For example, Bangladesh faces exceptionally severe consequences from climate ...
November 13, 2025 at 03:40
Any one-sentence OP is basically click bait.
November 12, 2025 at 22:08
What if the whole of evolutionary history is that process? That the emergence of life just is the manifestation of the subjective? And furthermore, th...
November 12, 2025 at 21:22
Excellent question! Broadly, it means humans are confronted with the fact of their own mortality, in a way that animals are not. (This is not to say t...
November 12, 2025 at 20:44
Meanwhile, here in Australia, the conservative political parties (Liberal-National Coalition) look set to dump the commitment to Net Zero emissions by...
November 12, 2025 at 09:16
At this point, I’d like to draw attention back to a book page mentioned by @"Pierre-Normand" - Hillary Putnam on Facts and Values. The cover descripti...
November 12, 2025 at 06:09
Existentialism grew out of phenomenology. But neither of them are the subjects of Chalmers’ argument in ‘facing up to the problem of consciousness’.
November 12, 2025 at 04:17
… not to forget Socrates…. It’s not all ‘lazy syncretism’. Consider for example Fathers Bede Griffiths and Raymundo Panikkar. Both exemplified Christi...
November 12, 2025 at 03:57
Hmmm… do I detect a similarity here? :chin:
November 12, 2025 at 03:43
In a broad sense, but they are not counted amongst the ‘exact sciences’, are they? Their proponents might aspire to it, but there are many difficultie...
November 12, 2025 at 00:46
That’s a reasonable point and one that turns on what “natural” means. If by natural we mean “what belongs to the order of things that occur independen...
November 12, 2025 at 00:07
There's an important perspectival shift missing in that account, somewhat analogous to 'figure and ground'. As I said, you cannot find or point to con...
November 11, 2025 at 23:49
A note on Tillich (various sources) Tillich argued that the God of traditional theism — conceived as a supreme being among other beings, a kind of hig...
November 11, 2025 at 23:46
Because it's not! You can observe other people. and animals, which you can safely assume to be conscious, and which you can safely assume feel just li...
November 11, 2025 at 23:25
I agree with you, but I already acknowledged somewhere in this thread (can't find it now) the role that ecclesiastical Chrisianity had in spawning ath...
November 11, 2025 at 23:21
It certainly puts modern Western science, as understood since Galileo, on one side of it. Unambiguously. You know that German culture has a word, Geis...
November 11, 2025 at 23:07