T_Clark

I want to make clear that I don't deny the value of these writers. I think I used to, but I have met people who were saved by Kant, Dante, or other cl...

Again, I'll bring out one of my favorite quotes from Franz Kafka: It is not necessary that you leave the house. Remain at your table and listen. Do no...

I think that subjectivity is the so-called hard problem. I don't see it as a problem. There is only one subjective experience in my universe - mine. E...

When I start out with a definition, I try to use the common, everyday way a word is used perhaps adding scientific or philosophical shading. In order ...

Good question. Maybe "behavior" is the wrong word. I guess I mean any observable or measurable act or response that can be used to infer an internal s...

Way back at the beginning I told @"Jack Cummins" I wanted to talk about the subconscious and unconscious. I am very aware that there are parts of my m...

I believe part of this - I don't think there is any mystery of consciousness. Consciousness is a behavior. I don't think that means that consciousness...

I agree with the first statement. I'm trying to work out how to handle the subject of the second. I want to say that the experience is not central, si...

All I know is that things are getting more complicated as this thread goes on. Which I guess isn't necessarily a bad thing. I'm really enjoying this.

I was mostly just trying to stop the bicker-battle. I think you're the first one in this thread to bring up the fact that consciousness is social. In ...

Joshs has pointed out that my view of infant awareness may be a bit naive: Joshs provided a link to Zahavi's papers. Here it is again I'm going to tak...

Yes, this is at the heart of things for me, although I don't think that's true for some other people. If, as you noted before, experience is the impor...

I read the paper. I'm not sure if I would change anything I've said based on what I read, but I do have some thoughts. First - Chalmers is talking abo...

Thanks. I'll take a look.

This probably isn't what you were had in mind, but I think many of the arguments identified as logical fallacies are legitimate arguments. Example - a...

The level of justification needed by Tom and Sam is very low. I they're wrong, they've dressed conservatively, so they will not be cold. If it's too w...

Daleks? Geez. And they say we have problems.

Do you have a source for this? A link?

Just tripped across an article in "Discover" - "Can Plants Feel Pain?" Thought people might be interested. Here's a link. https://www.discovermagazine...

Rather than address specific comments, I'll just say this - the meanings of consciousness @"Banno" is talking about are not those I intended to discus...

I haven't read Chalmer's paper. I need to do that.

I don't think it is a mystery. I think most of the confusion comes from a lack of imagination. People can't help but think that consciousness is somet...

I don't see that a materialist viewpoint can not be used to address questions of consciousness and self-awareness. We are just machines that manufactu...

I think you're getting to the heart of it. I actually like "self-awareness" more than "consciousness" to describe the phenomena we're talking about, b...

Yes, I agree. The aspect of consciousness I set out to examine is the experience. If I had added that to my list of words in the OP, it might have mad...

You're right, experience is a good word in the context of this discussion. Perhaps I should have included it in my list. It helps differentiate betwee...

And this is why I started this discussion, to help give us common language to discuss this issue.

I try to be considerate in my posts and make sure I am discussing the issues raised in the OP. I appreciate it when others do the same for me. Thank y...

But this thread is specifically intended to discuss the definition as opposed to the phenomena. That way, theoretically, possibly, one hopes, we can a...

Yes, there are different meanings of "consciousness," but I think I've been clear. I'm talking about a particular meaning or meanings related to a par...

But, as you are aware, it's not the one I set out to discuss. It is not relevant to the question at hand.

Yes, I agree.

Except that it's not. I've tried to be clear. I want to talk about the meaning of "consciousness" in the sense it is used when one says "the hard prob...

I think Banno is being intentionally contrarian.

Depends on where the accident is. Here in the US, no one knows who the British Prime Minister is. Is it still Gordon Brown?

I agree, but there are some who believe that inanimate objects are conscious. When we get in those kinds of conversations, I just want to make sure ev...

You're right, there are many meanings for "consciousness," but I am trying to focus in on one particular aspect, which I don't think has anything to d...

I think @"Banno" was being a smarty-pants. Perhaps I was wrong.

I used to be an emergency medical technician. When we gave our reports on patients we would say they were "conscious and alert," although we never had...

First off, I didn't think your discussion of "awareness" was contentious at all. As I noted in my OP, I did not consider it because I thought it was a...

I didn't think your post was critical at all. This is the kind of conversation I want to have. As I noted, this is exactly why I started this thread. ...

I'm happy for us to look at the language issues about "consciousness" and related words as you have done, but no, the post is not about language in ge...

Headed for bed. I'll pick this up in the morning.

I have read various discussions about it, but I haven't read this. I will.

I hope you don't mind if I steal the text you linked from @"Pantagruel"'s discussion. I like this, but I'm not sure if I agree. Or at least I'm not su...

All of the words I listed have other meanings. I tried to pick the definitions I think are relevant to the kinds of discussions we have on the forum. ...

Good point. I want to add some more about that in another post. I just didn't want my first one to be too long. I don't disagree, but my post was inte...

I edited my post to include that as one of the definitions.

At least read the post if you respond.

I've enjoyed this thread, although it's been a bit frustrating. If you don't like his stuff, why participate?