SteveKlinko

Ok. So if the Principle itself doesn't say anything about Consciousness how can it tell us that Consciousness is a Software feature? I guess I am miss...

Science talks about Dark Energy and Dark Matter like that, You do not get closer to understanding these things if you just use different language. Dar...

"I thought" he had drifted from the topic. Anyway, it is also standard practice to deny scientific results, like the Church-Turing-Deutsch Principle (...

You say "Red is a Color" dismissively as if saying that explains anything. Red is a Conscious experience that exists in the Conscious Mind. We experie...

Here's what you have said: I thought the discussion was about the Hard Problem being solved by your framework. The question is the Hard Problem. You t...

The only thing left is Infinity.

So If I just say the Mind is the Brain that explains it all. Sorry it doesn't work for me. Even if Mind truly is the Brain then I would still need to ...

Yes that is the question. If Red is something that exists in Physical Space then it has to be made out of Matter or Energy or some aspect of Space its...

We don't even need to consider Correlations. I'm talking about the Red experience itself. How does the Red experience happen in the Conscious Mind? Wh...

Thank You for that well written and lengthy reply. But I think a lot of people miss the Primacy of the Conscious experience. Think about the Redness o...

Synchronicity in Groups, Circuits, Specialized Neural Firing, Calcium Channels, 40 Hz synchronized Firing, etc. all involve Neural Activity of one sor...

But you never see the actual Physical Red object even when you are looking right at it. You are always only Seeing the Mental, or Conscious, Surrogate...

The book says things like there is a Virtual Reality generated by the Mind. it assumes this Virtual Reality without explaining what it actually is. Yo...

I guess we will have to disagree on the Hard Problem. I have given it my best shot and have obviously failed to convince you.

Even if Mind World is part of Physical World there has to be an explanation for Conscious experience. You cannot say the Mind (Conscious) World is all...

You make this statement while saying there is no Problem. Here's the Problem .. Given: 1) Red-Neurons are firing in X 2) Conscious experience of Red h...

I agree with this. But where does this leave us? If you agree that there is a separate Mind World where Conscious experience exists then you must agre...

It is a slightly internally redundant statement that I use to get people to concentrate on the Conscious experience itself. Just think about Red.

I think most people recognize that animals probably have some kind of Conscious existence and experience similar to what humans have. So how would you...

Doesn't matter what I call the Red experience. The red experience is still an experience of Redness. The Redness of the Red is beyond any words that y...

When you say this you imply that you have some deep insight into Consciousness. You very well might be right. But you have to provide us with better e...

It is the Redness of the Red experience that we are trying to explain. Regardless of how Complicated the Neural Activity is, and regardless of how muc...

All you just said is that it is Complicated and involves Memory and some kind of Interpretations. Maybe this is all true but there is no explanation i...

Your Smoking analogy has added a step in front of the problem. Smoking could be analogous to Looking at something Red. If I said that Looking at somet...

Ok I was just playing along with you in answering the question the way I did. The reality is that we don't know anything about how our own Conscious e...

Explain to us what we have to do with our Thoughts and Beliefs to solve the Problem (I'm assuming the Hard Problem).

I think it would be proper grammar to say that I want to know the Mechanism that Causes the Conscious Red experience to happen. I believe this means t...

I doubt it but who knows? If we knew how maybe we could ask the Conscious Mind, if there is one, that is connected to the camera if it had a Red exper...

There may be multiple reasons why the Red experience happens but with a normal Human being, if Red Neurons fire there will be a Red experience. Seems ...

Science has made tremendous progress with regard to measuring, scanning, probing, mapping, and understanding the Brain. But that all goes to solving t...

Thank You

If you think progress on the Hard Problem has moved beyond Step A then you don't understand the Hard Problem.

Yes jkg20 that's correct. But Uber is not alone. There are a lot of people that think we are close to explaining or even already have explained Consci...

Since we have no idea what Conscious experience actually is you cannot say anything definitive about Consciousness. We know nothing about whether Cons...

What other types of activity?

I think the problem with Biology and Brain Mechanisms can be summed up by asking a simple question about a one particular aspect of Consciousness ... ...

If you agree that the Hard Problem is not solved then you must agree that we are no closer to understanding Consciousness now than 100 years ago. The ...

Proof of that would probably solve the Hard Problem of Consciousness and eliminate the Explanatory Gap all at the same time. I have also toyed with so...

Details like this ,,, Given: 1) Neural Activity for the Color Red happens 2) A Conscious Red Experience happens What is the explanation for 1 causing ...

You are probably directing this to Tyler. But I think what you are saying tracks pretty good with what The Inter Mind is all about. Although, I think ...

I'll just ask my usual question ... Given: 1) Neural Activity For Red Happens 2) A Red Conscious Experience Happens How does 1 produce 2? Think about ...

Excellent post. Made me laugh because I've been dodging that Giant Club for a while now.

So you are just arguing about symantics? For me Cup Template and Cupness have the same meaning. I think Science will get nowhere if it insists that a ...

But even when you get to the point of having all the pieces and you know these pieces cause the Conscious experience, the question still screams out a...

The Computer Mind would be equivalent to the Physical Human Mind (the Brain). But Humans have a further processing stage which is the Conscious Mind. ...

I agree about templates but don't understand your objection to saying cupness or even sporkness.

You're missing the reality that the Robot would most definitely need the concept of cupness to operate in the general world of things. Knowing the col...

Seriously ... you think a Computer experiences the color Red like we do? You know that the only thing happening in a computer at any instant of time i...

If a Computer could experience for example the Color Red then I would agree. But a Computer does not Experience anything. A Computer can be programmed...

But Humans don't work like Robots. Humans and probably all Conscious beings have a further processing stage that presents the Visual experience to the...