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Here is an argument for the general perception of Light of any Wavelength. This argument is based on an engineering analysis approach where we trace t...
July 22, 2018 at 18:25
Yes, the Conscious experience of Red is in the final stage of the Visual process.
July 22, 2018 at 17:44
We Do Not See Objects We Detect Objects The Big Bang happens and a new Universe is created. This Universe consists of Matter, Energy, and Space. After...
July 22, 2018 at 15:48
My experience of a Red snooker ball, or any Red object, in a Dream is that it is just as Red as my experience of Red in awake Consciousness. You might...
July 22, 2018 at 15:00
If you are talking about Conscious Volition then the sequence would be from Conscious Mind to Physical Mind (Brain). We have no idea how a Conscious d...
July 22, 2018 at 14:38
Lets consider the Conscious experience of the color Red again. The chain of events is from Physical Red Light hitting the Retina to downstream Neural ...
July 22, 2018 at 12:59
When we talk about the Bell we are talking about the Conscious experience of Sound. To make the Sound analogous to the Red we should talk about a pure...
July 22, 2018 at 11:37
I use the redundant Redness of the Red to make people stop and think about the sensation or experience of the Red itself for a moment. What is that Re...
July 11, 2018 at 10:43
For me the Redness of the Red is just as Red in 2 and 3. With 1 the sensation of Redness is more vague but the Redness is there nevertheless. It's imp...
July 10, 2018 at 11:53
Since the Red we experience with all 3 of these things is the same or at least similar, it is completely sensible to think that there has to be someth...
July 10, 2018 at 10:29
To prove that Mental Imagery and Dreams exist would be to solve the problem of Consciousness itself. You are asking for the Answer before you even sta...
July 09, 2018 at 11:04
There are no Fermions or Bosons involved with the scene you might See while dreaming. In this case the scene you See is not correlated with any Fermio...
July 03, 2018 at 23:29
When you say why should we worry I guess you are saying that you just don't care about the problem of the Conscious perception of Red. That's ok for y...
July 01, 2018 at 11:14
Since nobody knows what the Redness is, it could be as you say or as I say. But it seems to me that because Science has not been able to figure out wh...
June 30, 2018 at 12:53
But I am saying that the Red is not something that we can categorize as Matter, Energy, or Space. It is something different. It is a Conscious thing. ...
June 28, 2018 at 10:33
I'm not quite sure what is simpler when it comes to Sensory inputs but I suppose a Bell and a Flashing Light would be more complicated and would resul...
June 23, 2018 at 12:42
All you have to do is rub your eyes and you can see Lights. So we know that even that very external mechanical stimulation of the Visual system can cr...
June 23, 2018 at 12:23
I think it was the last sentence that got me off on the track I went on. It seemed like you were saying that the snooker ball actually had the Redness...
June 21, 2018 at 21:34
The snooker ball does not have Redness as a Property. The snooker ball reflects Light at a Wavelength of 680 nm. But the Red Light has no Redness Prop...
June 21, 2018 at 17:25
The Hard Problem is a Philosophical not a Scientific proposition. I agree we can only use the tools that are available at this moment in history. If C...
June 21, 2018 at 13:15
I suppose I am a Dualist and an Indirect Realist. But I don't like to put myself in one of these boxes because there is usually other baggage that com...
June 21, 2018 at 11:36
We speculate that the Conscious Mind is connected to the Physical Mind (the Brain) in some way. If the inner Self is connected to the Thalamus then th...
June 20, 2018 at 11:10
I think 1 can imply the sense that the Visual Image of the snooker ball is Out There in the external world and you are really Seeing it as it is. But ...
June 20, 2018 at 11:02
It is periodically a good thing to refresh what this thread is about. See http://TheInterMind.com for the full presentation of the Inter Mind Model.
June 19, 2018 at 12:20
No doubt that Neural Activity seems to happen when a Red Experience happens, but how can any kind of Neural Activity result in that Experience? Memory...
June 19, 2018 at 11:16
Ok, Look for Blue. It's on my punch list.
June 18, 2018 at 11:04
Yes. What is Red? Where is Red? When we know Red and find Red we will have solved the Hard Problem of Consciousness, not just for Red but for all Cons...
June 17, 2018 at 23:37
I didn't raise any language issue. A bunch of posts back somebody made the claim that if we could just "Get the Language Right" then the Hard Problem ...
June 17, 2018 at 11:15
I think that for some people 2 opens up the possibility that the Red is out there in the Physical World. Whereas 1 emphasizes the fact that the Red it...
June 16, 2018 at 11:33
If the Conscious Red experience is a thing that exists in Physical Space then what is it? Is it made out of Matter, Energy, or is it some aspect of Ph...
June 15, 2018 at 14:26
You say things like this : I think when you say the Robot Sees Red you mean that the Robot only Detects Red. It does not have a Conscious experience o...
June 14, 2018 at 22:19
Do you seriously think a Robot has a Conscious Red experience? I think you must know that a Robot is just a Computer that is processing numbers. The H...
June 14, 2018 at 12:19
All this may be true. But the question remains: How do we See Red? A Memory of Red is just chemical modifications among the Neurons associated with th...
June 14, 2018 at 12:00
I think I understand now. You are saying that there is no such thing as the Conscious Red experience. Do you not See the color Red? If you do then it ...
June 14, 2018 at 10:44
But what is the Experience of the color Red?
June 13, 2018 at 11:15
I agree with you about language up to a point. I try not to talk about Consciousness in general but instead I like to use language that talks about pa...
June 13, 2018 at 10:55
My first question would be: What Energy Flow are you referring to? A normal Energy of Science or are you speculating on a new Energy not known to Scie...
June 11, 2018 at 18:46
Unfortunate that you can not appreciate the question: What is Red? To me it is a pivotal question. It is not the only question but you have to start s...
June 11, 2018 at 10:49
I can See Red while dreaming. No objects are being lighted there.
June 10, 2018 at 23:03
If you are saying that Consciousness is something outside of known Scientific knowledge, then I agree. Seems like there is a relationship between Neur...
June 10, 2018 at 23:00
Seems like a logical view. But I still need to know what Red is.
June 10, 2018 at 12:45
I don't get your point here. Microsoft Word didn't create a Laptop. Good video. Gave me new insight into Universal Computing. I thought it was about C...
June 10, 2018 at 12:39
I truly don't understand what you are saying. If you don't want to continue the discussion then maybe you should not be on discussion Forums.
June 09, 2018 at 12:18
The fact that the Human Mind created the Laptop would indicate that the Human Mind is greater than the Laptop. First of all a Brain is nothing like a ...
June 09, 2018 at 12:15
But how can something like the experience of Red come from Memory Access? Memory Access is Neural Activity and other chemical changes in the Neurons. ...
June 09, 2018 at 11:46
I think I understand what you are saying, I'll look for your summary. I also thank you for the discussion.
June 09, 2018 at 11:32
Then you will agree that Physical Red Light does not in fact have a Property of Redness. It is the Conscious Light in the Mind that has Redness as a P...
June 09, 2018 at 11:27
See previous post.
June 08, 2018 at 19:02
Don't think about Objects think about the Red itself apart from any Object. Think about the Red experience. Objects are not Red. Objects can reflect R...
June 08, 2018 at 19:02
If Red is a Physical World thing then what is it made out of? Is it made out of Energy? Is it made out of Matter? Is it some aspect of Space? Science ...
June 08, 2018 at 18:51