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Yes, my remark was vis-a-vis the OP. I don't have a problem with OP's defining their own terms ... but I don't have a problem criticizing those term s...

The problem is that the question is simply not resolvable in a lab. All three scenarios do not form a refutable hypothesis (a recipe that if followed,...

If it's along the lines of Rorty or Berlin, or even Chomsky for that matter, they usually call this pluralism to differentiate with relativism, which ...

I just don't see where you get that from. It seems really clear in the paragraph you cite. I'm saying here is that "if there is an HIV gene in coronav...

I haven't used circumstantial evidence in this way. I'm willing to entertain a Nobel Laureate's (for work on HIV) claims about HIV and coronavirus, in...

I'm not sure what you are disagreeing with. The very definition of circumstantial evidence I cited from wikipedia is that it is very weak and compatib...

Though I agree with your general position vis-a-vis @"Benkei", that circumstantial evidence is still evidence we need to consider (if only to guide fu...

Dude, have you read the wikipedia entry on "evidence"? If there is an HIV gene in coronavirus that is evidence, a "fact of the case" (and, please note...

You're confusing evidence with proof, due to your fear that simply entertaining the hypothesis fuels Trump supporters. Furthermore, my analysis was ba...

Your first question is has this been talked about. These theories, which we agree are bullshit, have been talked about the most, as far as I have been...

What has been largely dismissed is various claims of genetic "proof" that the virus was engineered by gene splicing. I believe there was some Indian s...

You have no idea how the state functions, and you do not have the cognitive ability to participate in this discussion as anything other than a troll t...

A qualifier of who? Does the Chinese Communist Party qualify as "we all". If your statement has any content, it is because "we all" relates to obvious...

In my opinion, we were very close to a formal coup, but Trump backed down. This was certainly not inevitable, in terms of how "crazy" Trump would go a...

To quote you again: You're key operative claim here is "oppressive regimes - which we all know are bad places". The OP is literally entitled "Mental h...

So to be perfectly clear, these are the only places on earth where state oppression exists, that you know to be "bad places"? You've checked, it's obv...

But, according to yourself: So according to you, there's evidence this happens in China. You're refusal to provide the rest of your "list" or then you...

Your list includes only china? May I remind you of your claim, since not only you don't have the cognitive skills to follow what I'm saying, you don't...

This is a philosophy forum, it is fairly usual to be concerned with sound argumentation, that conclusions follow from the premises. Here, I am concern...

So you're saying that the difference between an illegitimate and legitimate state, a "bad place" and "oppressive regimes", is obvious? I don't want th...

In my terminology, you are a state agent in this case, but you can still choose whether to subvert or not the institution's relation to state policy. ...

I did say the same: It was on another thread, so I wouldn't expect you to have read it, but suffice to say we are in agreement here.

I say: we must evaluate the political situation before we can evaluate what state agents tell us. I say: state agents are selected for certain criteri...

The OP is about "Mental health under an illegitimate state". I agree that Turing was not helped by psychologists, and I would argue that psychology as...

Yes, one must first conclude if one is living in a legitimate or illegitimate state. This is beyond the scope of the OP. However one decides, one cann...

You're first response is that explaining "the definition of a threat" as it's used in a sentence is circular logic. That didn't work, so now you're cl...

Yes, I also rather discuss the actual OP. My argument is that philosophy cannot be approached from a point of view of mental health. It simply doesn't...

You are telling me that you know of no cases in your field where people's research or practices that have been stopped by the state throughout the his...

It's not circular, it's simply the definition of "what you do when you see a threat: you act with regard to that threat". If you threaten my life, I w...

You have a complete inability to participate in the conversation at a cognitive level. I said three possibilities: "stopped, removed, or imprisoned". ...

If you go to a state and threaten state policy, you will be stopped if not removed from the country, if not arrested and placed in prison. Go to China...

I have already stated that the mechanism is the state selecting for people who already believe in state policy, most importantly of all that the state...

Yes, if it is agreed that all actions against a illegitimate state are justifiable in principle, that all that is remained to be analysed is what acti...

What the hell are you talking about? I never said "deep state agents". You seem to be going off the rails into some fantasy version of this conversati...

Thanks for coming for the ride! Yes, the change from within strategy has clearly been unsuccessful. Of course it can work but invariably leads to gett...

I have no experience with psychologists; I avoid them for reasons that maybe pretty clear. As a privileged corporate executive I am, in any case, immu...

Although I completely agree with the principles of your analysis; this is not just about the police, that was just the trigger. Indeed, ironically, th...

I mean "mental break down" in the trivial cognitive sense that changing core beliefs is to "break down" those beliefs, but also in the social sense th...

It's not an exclusive definition. However, the roll of psychology to brand dissidents as mentally ill is primarily focused on children, over which the...

It is extremely controversial, and simply wrong, in the way you present it. For nothing in what you say is a democratic process, but rather a fictitio...

History teaches us something else: Freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor, but must be violently taken by the oppressed.

Is this really just a feeling for you at this point? Translation: "Boohoo, the oppressed classes are revolting, it's not like providing an argument th...

It's completely relevant, it's the essential point of relevance in this whole conversation. If the state is legitimate, then there are better methods ...

Again, I suggest the tool of reading to participate in text base discussion: I am using the term "academics" to refer to the group of people in academ...

You say the difference is obvious, and yet you plunge directly into nuance. I don't see where you are trying to go. Yes, there is more "decorum" in th...

I'm not sure why reading things is not part of your approach to text base discussion, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume there's a ...

Yes please, how was the Nazi's process of selecting and killing victims obviously different than that of a deranged serial killer, except for the scal...

What is not clear?

I said "academic scientists" in terms of their actual primary activity, their moral culpability in maintaining oppressive structures. Secondary rolls ...

No. The same can only be said of all academic scientists: the primary roll of mathematics, physics and engineering becomes the arms industry, the prim...