You can't just throw in a "hence" to construct an argument. What's your actual argument here, then I'll answer your question. I've explained several t...
Again, watch the videos, read the articles if the topic interests you. Ukrainian nationalism is a major factor in 2014 and what has happened since. Th...
I don't have a problem with that. I have no problem with characterizing Russia as an imperial state with a very strong nationalist block. I have a pro...
This is what pretty much all the realist analysts, such as Mearsheimer, have been predicting, that Russia would not at this stage negotiate peace even...
It is actually "a reason", if the the Nazis help the invasion of Ukraine by providing both legitimate motivation (we don't like Nazis) as well as plen...
Also, what's you're implication here, that all the Nazis in the videos I posted and the articles above are just another "social problem" like alcoholi...
Your claim was: I point out that's a straw man, I do not claim Ukraine is ruled by a Nazi regime. No where do I claim Zelensky is a Nazi, and I wouldn...
Yeah I get it, a real tough guy as tough as they come. One of the first arguments used to apologize for the Nazi's in Ukraine is that they are just to...
Go on, explain how hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians dying for war aims that are not accomplished and seems clear to everyone now was completely obv...
Complete false symmetry. What you describe is called actual cherry picking (what the people complaining about Ukrainian Nazi's were accused of, that o...
To add to reply, positions that get hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians killed and do not accomplish the war aims, is not pro-Ukrainian. It may simply...
So we're back to the extremists (literal Nazi's) in Ukraine exist everywhere in the same amount? Please, explain how analogous extremists are of simil...
I'll respond to tomorrow to the rest of your post, and also @"neomac" I have not forgotten your posts either so don't worry about further education. H...
For someone who is willing to demand evidence for common knowledge (such as Ukrainian mobilization being not remotely close to a majority volunteer ba...
This is really not the case, I am happy to entertain @"Echarmion"'s arguments. And we're not talking past each other but have agreed on the essential ...
When you transfer an asset into someone else's name to act as a front man in order to avoid legal scrutiny (for example because you're about to be the...
This is called "echoing" each other without making any argument of any kind, nor contending with the evidence that supports the claim you complain abo...
Zelensky getting caught laundering money is nothing new, are you calling this Guardian article, the Pandora Papers and ICIJ Russian propaganda? For me...
So you go from countering the cry-baby argument with the fact tough guys with tattoos are on the front lines, to countering my pointing out that the a...
Well, point out the other roots to a negotiated settlement then. I've also explained several times that the war can also simply go on. As @"Tzeentch" ...
It's only circular because at some point you understand that Ukraine is not going to reconquer all the territory (not that that would end the war anyw...
Who here has decided to fight for their country? You? As far as I know there are no Ukrainians who have joined this discussion and, if so, none curren...
It is obviously about NATO membership. But if you want to rewrite history your way, how does striving for NATO membership help? Your position, and tha...
The fundamental fallacy Zelensky and co. use to reject Russia's peace offer and accept neutrality, that Russian promise not to invade later isn't a "g...
The invasion was certainly planned in advance, that does not mean refusing to open the pipeline didn't anger Putin and the Kremlin and that anger didn...
One interpretation is that the troops started being amassed due to delays in opening the pipeline. It's not so much the physical completion of the pro...
The key is to navigate risk. Why didn't Russia annex Crimea before 2014? Because there's also risks to annexing Crimea, so as long as the risks of ann...
Pretty much. The alternative is the war that is currently happening where Ukraine loses far more land, lives, economic power, mass exodus, mass trauma...
A coup getting rid of the person who implemented the "non-alignment" (except cooperation with NATO ) policy is an obvious change the policy. If a poli...
Exactly, Ukraine has and is attempting to become not-neutral and its problem is that it has and remains neutral. Ukraine has no countries that send so...
That's what we are discussing, Zelensky's options in 2022. My claim is that committing to Neutrality is low cost to Zelensky (and the other leaders ne...
Again, "what neutrality mean according to your own clear criteria of a neutral country"? "Co-operation" with alliances such as NATO does not fit the d...
Over a million Ukrainians take refuge from the war in Russia, so even if we ignore political parties and independent journalism and Ukraine becoming a...
Here is an interview with the chief negotiator of Ukraine in March 2022: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G_j-7gLnWU A bunch has circulated online abo...
And yes, you are simply rewriting history. What is the actual context: Which, as you may again note if have that reading comprehension you covet, is n...
For those interested in actual reality: NATO in 2008: Then, to avoid being invaded right away, as NATO notes: There's then a coup in 2014, and Russia ...
First, you explain yourself that Ukraine and NATO are holding talks, going towards NATO membership: NATO Which does not satisfy the criteria of a neut...
This is the point in question: Disputing my point that Ukraine is obviously not "neutral", but rather Aha!! Ukraine had a "neutrality clause in its co...
And , and others. You guys have come to a point of really pure insanity. Ukraine literally put the intention to join NATO in their constitution, basic...
Oh, and definitely History will remember Zelensky as a stupid crazy person if it turns out it was obviously incredibly foolish to promise a total defe...
This is not contradictory in anyway. What is contradictory is to fight a war at a significant disadvantage on some principle to join an alliance that ...
Zelensky is also a stupid crazy person because he does not push NATO into committing better weapons in exchange for repudiating negotiations (which wa...
Well then we agree there. And certainly strengthens your position if you also condemn "when NATO does it". Really?? Bizarre?? Took me literally five s...
You don't substantiate any of your claims, just throw it out there that it's "relatively easy" to demonstrate Ukraine has just cause ... but then don'...
Which we've both been apart of since essentially the beginning. The "peace party", as you accurately describe us who have been promoting a negotiated ...
Literally no one here has said that. Everyone here in favour of peace (some compromise that ends the war) has had no problem accepting Russia annexed ...
First, you completely ignore that obviously Russia's offer before the invasion even took place would require no withdrawal. Had Ukraine accepted neutr...
The point at issue was whether the Russia was offering only a "cease-fire" in place and did not include a withdrawal. Of course, Russian offers to wit...
Again, just inventing things that would be convenient if it were true. Are you just repeating myths that circulate in "pro-Ukrainian" echo-chambers on...
This was Russia's offer as reported at the time. You're trying to create some sort of plausible deniability scenario that we "don't actually know" tha...
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