I had planned to edit my post to remove the word "correctly", which is extraneous. As I noted earlier, one can either follow a rule or not follow a ru...
Family resemblance may (or may not) be concerned with the concept “rule”, but I don’t believe that family resemblance relates to particular applicatio...
You draw an interesting connection here between mathematics and Platonism. I wonder if this is what Antony means by “mathematical” in the thread title...
I will try and respond to the others later, but for now: You seemed earlier to be disputing that we ever use language intentionally, in relation to ou...
There's a book I own, which I read several years ago now, called "Wittgenstein and His Interpreters: Essays in Memory of Gordon Baker". In the introdu...
I asked how a metre is not the distance between two points. I did not ask how the distance between two points is not a metre. Obviously the distance b...
What do you mean "it could start any time"? I wasn't talking about when it started. I was talking about the duration of an hour, which has the tempora...
I've just read through half of the first article you quoted, Practising pragmatist-Wittgensteinianism. It is almost completely unrelated to this discu...
That analogy does not hold because an hour has a specific duration of an hour, which begins at 0 minutes and ends at 60 minutes. There is no “general ...
Where in the past? At what point/event does the sense part begin? A duration of time has beginning and end points. You claim that the present has/is a...
Doesn't Cavell also take Kripke to be misreading Wittgenstein, though? It might help to consider what you go on to say later: Your question "How did y...
I didn't refer to it here as a point in time. I referred only to the beginning and end points of your "medium" or "gap", and I asked you at which end ...
And, as I asked, what logical reason is there for locating the present at the beginning of this "medium" (or "gap") instead of at its end? We know tha...
I don't believe it is untenable. It is the distinction between perception and memory; between the experience of consciously perceiving an event via th...
Then you experience the memories and anticipations of events, but you do not experience the events themselves (via sense perception). Otherwise, you a...
Apart from the distinction already made by the relevant meanings of the two words, the short answer is: sense perception. I anticipate what I will see...
Then perhaps you could explain the basis of your claim that “the real thing which is being represented must be in the past by the time the representat...
I was not being critical of you. I only meant to point out that MU's criticism could equally be directed at himself. Then how can you assert that: "th...
Does "the real thing which is being represented" come before or after "the time the representation is created", given that the former "must be in the ...
You said that "not all concepts" involve rules (or "for which the grammar involves rules"). I asked you to name an example of such a concept. How is t...
Sorry, I didn't have time earlier to provide a proper response. This sounds right. As W says: "And we may not advance any kind of theory. There must n...
Since you’ve said nothing about Antony’s reading, I think you’re only reacting to the word “definition”. I wasn’t completely comfortable using it eith...
Which concepts do not involve rules? To whom is it "senseless" if not we English-speakers? Having an impact is not synonymous with having sense. Wittg...
You seem intent on talking about criteria instead of rules. Are you talking about ordinary rules or ordinary criteria? Rules needn't be "complete or w...
We obviously do use words, and we use them to mean this or that. We do not invent their meanings, we learn their meanings. And we learn to use them, a...
What's the difference? I don't think you've grasped the point. You said that we "derive directly from experience" our memories and anticipations. But ...
What's the difference? We "derive directly from experience" our conscious perceptions of the world, just as much as our memories or anticipations. We ...
Even if "the things sensed are in the past by the time they are sensed", that needn't contradict the statement that "we are sensing at the present". T...
So you accept that 'meaning is use', but you reject that meaning has anything to do with "us": the users of words and language? Yes, the use of langua...
I didn't mean to emphasise the "I", and I don't know why you think I did. Any English speaker could make the same command/request by saying "pass the ...
I'm not sure whether it is Cavell or Kripke making this kind of claim, but, for Wittgenstein, grammar is about the sense of the words "excuse", "apolo...
Grammar applies only to language use, not to "any action" - unless you have a reason to think otherwise? We don't either learn rules or have lives. Yo...
You are speaking in the future tense. We can say that the rules are in constant flux, such that there is no ultimate, final, "all-encompassing" rules ...
For a particular meaning/use of the word, yes. It is both possible for the teacher to know "all there is about justice" and for the definition that is...
Do you mean to imply that grammar pertains to more than just language use; that grammar involves something outside language use? Or what "different ty...
Do you believe that all moves (or all movements of a knight) in chess are circumscribed and predetermined? Per Banno's earlier comment, I don't see wh...
I've just finished reading the second chapter of Cavell's Conditions Handsome and Unhandsome; the chapter on Wittgenstein and Kripke. While interestin...
In my experience, the average person does not typically have "the fear that leads to our need to have a foundational bedrock to justify our acts." Tha...
Is it meant to "summon skepticism", though? Maybe from Kripke's overly philosophical perspective, but I doubt it would summon skepticism from the aver...
Weren’t you instructing me (or “someone”)? How does your not giving up on me in your instruction (about what constitutes obeying a rule) suddenly beco...
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