Luke

Good. Im glad you did not mean before and after the present. Now all that’s left to explain is how your conclusion follows: Why must part of the prese...

I spent several posts trying to clarify whether you were talking about the measurement of time or of stipulated time periods such as seconds and minut...

You said earlier: It was this claim about any proposed period of time being "indefinite" and "imprecise" that I was querying and criticising. As you c...

I was seeking clarification. Are you saying that (e.g.) a minute is an indefinite period of time? Isn't it exactly 60 seconds? Or are you saying that ...

I don't see what difference it makes, especially to your argument. If you mean a period of time, such as a minute or an hour, then I disagree that the...

This implies that 'the present' is the time at which we each find ourselves to be conscious; when we each perceive the occurence of things in the worl...

You stand here and I'll stand there. Now our bodies are occupying the opposite "form of space" we each were in a moment ago. However, we must exclude ...

All you've done in this discussion is accuse me of misreading the article, based on the scantest of evidence, even though you only skimmed and did not...

Nobody is forcing you to reply. Okay, but bringing a more informed perspective to reading the article requires actually reading the article. You teste...

Have you read the full article yet? If so, explain why you believe the article does not indicate or imply that "qualia constitute the self". If you ha...

Could you clarify the point of these remarks in relation to the section you quoted? I don't follow how your references to the structure of language re...

Have you read any fiction? Language need not "reflect the 4 dimensions we exist in". Neither is language limited to that function alone. Language can ...

If you haven't read the full article, then how are you in a position to question my reading of it? You think that your ability to guess about the part...

Have you read the article? It's not long. "That's just the way evolution went" does not explain the "adaptive end", the evolutionary purpose, or the b...

This model works well if we assume that the self is no more than the combined constitution of sensations and/or perceptions, but I’m left wondering if...

I understand, and I'm not sure if I'm completely in agreement with Dennett's views. However, the article helped me to understand - as I stated in the ...

I may be wrong, but I believe that even illusionists like Keith Frankish do not claim "that we don't really experience anything at all". I believe the...

How do you know that what I imagine "a state with no consciousness" to be like would be "very much shy of the actual state"?

In your previous post, you seemed to be arguing that "a state with no consciousness" was inconceivable (i.e. unimaginable). I disagreed with that. How...

I don't think the question should be why all human activities - including those of recent history - were not produced blind. However, it can reasonabl...

The question "why does phenomenal experience exist" may seem analogous to the question "why does anything exist". I agree that the question can be vie...

I thought we were on the same side. Were you unable to conceive of a state with no consciousness in your examples of dreamless sleep, coma and meditat...

A dictionary definition would suffice. I don't believe that we know the meanings of any words based solely on observation or experience; there is alwa...

More simply, I can conceive of a point in time before there was any life or conscious beings in the universe.

Perhaps the hard problem is inconceivable for phenomenolgists, but I'm not a phenomenologist.

Granting this, how does it imply that the hard problem is inconceivable?

Why not? Yes.

If there were no experiential dimension then there would be no hard problem, but since there is, there is.

Which is it? Is it a rehash of what's already been written about phenomenal experience in philosophy or is he actually talking about biological and ph...

If you disagree that the article proposes a solution to the hard problem, then what would you say the article is about? What discussion title would yo...

Do you doubt that the article offers a proposed solution to the hard problem? Have I created bias by announcing that that's what the article is about?...

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He is talking about the evolution of phenomenal consciousness - when it first appeared on the scene. Upon its inception you'll come to believe in your...

For some folks, perhaps, but it is a question which I believe was originally directed at physicalists. How and why we have phenomenal experiences migh...

How is this related to the hard problem of consciousness?

The quote says “you’ll soon realise that other members of your species possess conscious selves like yours.” You are resorting to cherry picking and o...

The rest of the quote counters your claims: This does not reflect a desire for uniqueness.

It’s about phenomenal consciousness - which includes that of which we are consciously aware - so I think this is about right. How do you view the hard...

I don't see where you find that in the premises of the article, unless you are talking about the premises created within the history of philosophy tha...

:up: I thought it was worth sharing.

I believe this misses the main crux of the article. It is not about “building” a sense of self, but about having one; it is not about “owning” somethi...

It’s a misconception that we have consciousness? And no more than an assumption? You aren’t really aware of your feelings or sensations?

That’s not what he’s doing, or at least not how I read it. The section you quoted does not support your claim that the author’s goal is to “prove” tha...

Are we? Because the hard problem of consciousness is a mystery in need of an explanation. No, it's an answer to the hard problem that we wanted all al...

Yes, I agree.

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Thanks 180, I'll check them out. :up:

Well, it rings true! :rofl:

I disagreed with what you said earlier: "There is no invisible thing associated with consciousness." However, now you say "There are obviously unseen ...

I think it may be useful to separate the private from the public: on the one hand, an individual's private experience(s) - "what's happening to us pri...