you can ponder hypotheticals and exalt the human mind as being uniquely non-corporeal all you want, but words mean something. And if the way you state...
that is 'nonsense' in that Genetic algorithms automatically build models and solutions, some that even humans cannot think of. Also, NNs can create sy...
I think you have posed a malformed question that has mislead commenters into an wrong direction. I think you/we/they have to first address/answer "Wha...
I disagree. If anyone claims that the mind-body work are, or relate in, a certain way and that way also applies to current, man-made AI systems, then ...
this is not helpful to resolve what the mind is and how to model it. For it to be worthy of discussion here, IMHO, you have to, in clear detail, expla...
so, do you think full, human level Consciousness is possible to be implemented in an AI machine? Or, only organic wet-wear can possess it? Your argume...
I disagree. You omit utility. There is no meaning w/o some sense of utility. A mere ontology of info/data does not create knowledge if you have not ga...
BTW, I should have made it more clear in my above reply that you are technically right b/c I said "does not relate to" in "that state of being you des...
empathy could be not much more than an exercise in pattern matching requiring little info but mostly emotive bonding with your (info) projection to se...
so how can any of that be used to explain or reproduce what the (philo of) human mind does? They tried decades ago to use things like symbolic, predic...
thanks for sharing that. cute, but not very useful in the relm of the mind. That is, my original statement/assessment still stands re " any property h...
I expect that Shannon's metric cannot be dominant in the realm of the mind at least because there is no way to a priori know that the ultimate entropy...
not true. my hypothesis/theory/model under development, predicts otherwise. There is energy- Energy patterns as an entity in-and of itself. That is, i...
your idea on that is unclear to me. any property has to convey some kind of unique meaning/utility concerning the object it is a property of. How does...
the poster (et. al.) are indeed saying this. So, you disagree with their premise... that state of being you describe is not related to information. th...
recall the topic is 'Information - The Meaning Of Life In a Nutshell', nothing to do with knowledge. So, I think you are still off topic b/c the poste...
cognitive ability has nothing to do with this thread. The poster (et. al.) say that endless information accumulation alone is the meaning, goal, and h...
OK, lets take your (et. al.) line of logic/thinking further. Then, in your (et. al.) terms a modern, top supercomputer has achieved a greater meaning ...
so, you ascribe the meaning of life to gather endless useless *new* information? Using your (et. al.) logic then food is a greater meaning in life tha...
with what evidence do to you back up that otherwise leap to conclusion? how does my proposed model "ignore all sorts of phenomena " and fails to enabl...
So, according to your (and the original poster’s) idea, a teenager spending all day on facebook consuming endless information of relationships between...
yes, b/c they are built into the physics of the universe itself. all algorithms can be implemented with a comparison function combined with an "IF...T...
in my model, it does not work that way. I believe you are thinking about verbal thoughts, which are even more problematic than non-verbal. In my model...
this does not make any sense to me. For example, perceptual consciousness (which BTW requires many particle interactions) is measured to take at least...
that is not how it works. you are confounding many distinct mechanics. maybe you are unaware, but in AI (e.g., genetic algorithms, neural nets, boltzm...
why are you so convinced that qualia consciousness must arise from the quantum effects instead of simply being a macro-scale phenomenon w/o requiring ...
that is pretty vague. So, zero point energy of free space has experiential/qualia consciousness? you define free space a having qualia consciousness? ...
what are you meaning there? Are you making up your own terminology? 'Bayesian Information' should be related to using Bayes conditional probabilities ...
thanks for clarifying that. can you point me to a research paper on that you say? However, it does make my point that while the plant benefits from qu...
Upon what (theory or evidence) basis have you come to this conclusion? I see it otherwise, as very tractable (yet, extremely hard) to model and simula...
from where did you come up that idea? Let's not allow the 'magic' of quantum mechanics to be the stuff of selling snake oils... https://en.wikipedia.o...
I strongly doubt that. Under the theory of evolution, it should be not much more than reusing/repurposing legacy code to be part of achieving new func...
correct, not only are they aggregate population statistics on a region of surface tissue, but are only a subset of the kinds of waves that are known (...
so, according to your beliefs/thesis, it will be impossible for AI implemented on computational machines to attain human level qualia consciousness of...
I tend to agree with that. It is not too different, IMHO, from Earthlings saying that we are the only sentient life in the whole universe, and the rel...
I'm personally not too focused on how the brain does anything b/c often biological systems are 'gobligook' ways to carry out otherwise more strait for...
I do take what I understand to be 'qualia' (the vivid experience aspect of awareness) seriously; however, to me that has nothing necessarily to do wit...
@"Enrique" I believe you are wrong about that. Primates have it too. e.g., see: https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/BF03331972 Maybe I'm missing...
@"Devans99", re "Information - The Meaning Of Life " and "Producing/consuming information makes our lives happier. " I think you got that wrong on bas...
I think you guys seem to accepting a false premise here. That is, I would say that the whole premise that you have any sense of certainty of knowledge...
I just explained it above. that is kind of a creationist non-statement in the context of quantum mechanics and string theories, because it is not a mi...
@"Enrique", I've never found that to be such a mystery as most think it is. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in my mind, all math boils down to algorithmi...
@"Gnomon" and @"Enrique", please explain in more concrete terms what you guys mean by this. Makes little sense to me for explaining the experiential q...
@"Enrique", it is a great topic that you bring up here. You have some interesting ideas, yet I strongly suspect, in my theoretical work, that quantum ...
re "You are you. Always have been you. Always will be you." how do you prove your belief in that? It is not true just b/c you say so. e.g., all the ce...
@"Yohan", I think you are posing a malformed question in that I believe you are confounding concepts of one's 'conscious self' with concepts of one's ...
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