A paradox is an apparent, but not real, contradiction. The barber can shave himself or not, and the group as defined can exist, but the barber cannot ...
“The town barber, who is a man, shaves exactly every man in the town who does not shave himself.” Either the barber shaves himself or not. If he does,...
Contradictions are impossible. The statement “the town barber ...” contains a contradiction either way we look at it. Therefore the statement is impos...
Hello. I can see that the first statement is logically impossible, because whether the barber shaves himself or not, the statement contains a contradi...
Great. To determine if morality is objective or not was the main goal of this discussion. Everything else is secondary. Now why do you claim that ever...
This statement is a self-contradiction, because if objectivity is not real, then nothing can be objectively true, including the above statement. I thi...
Hello Mr Dude. I admit I don't understand your post. Subjectivity means 'only a matter of opinion' and 'no right or wrong'. Objectivity means 'part of...
Your conclusion that "One is not equal to One" is wrong because it fails the Law of Identity: For all A: A = A. Now let A = 1. Therefore, 1 = 1. I fai...
I understand your point, that strong disagreements on a topic suggests subjectivity. But two counter-points. (1) Subjectivity is not necessarily entai...
I am now confused as to where you stand. If you believe that "something can be ethically or morally wrong but legal or vice versa", then you believe i...
Hello Mr Ex Caelo. Morality indeed should apply to everyone if objective. But the necessary ingredient to a moral act is intentions. I.e., if good int...
To all that understand the concept. Do you believe "2+2=4" is right, and "2+2=3" is wrong? If so, then you too believe math to be objective, because o...
There are people who disagree on the shape of the earth. It does not make the topic subjective. And if objective, then some people are necessarily in ...
Hi. Let's use the same logic for a different topic: "Why do you believe math is subjective? Because to do otherwise, is to have a subjective belief ab...
People in their right mind do not want to be assaulted. This behaviour does not make him immoral but crazy. We do not send this type of person to jail...
And so to answer my question, if I am unjust to you, e.g. I am your employer and pay you less than the others for the same work, you would not say "it...
Hello. I dispute the claim that what comes from our feelings is necessarily subjective inasmuch as what comes from our physical senses is necessarily ...
As previously mentioned, the Golden Rule is derived straight from justice. Thus anything that breaks the golden rule is necessarily unjust. Our third ...
Not the way we have defined 'mercy', meaning "never punish". I value mercy only when it is just, which simply translates to justice. If the third pers...
Hello. So right only means what you choose, and wrong only means what you don't choose, is that correct? So if I chose to be unjust to you, you likely...
We are not really in disagreement here, because the end of putting Hitler in jail is to prevent further harm. If the end can be accomplished by anothe...
So by extension, mercy simply means "not to punish offenders within your power". Let's roll with it. This claim can be refuted if we find a case where...
To recap, we have defined mercy as "Don't over-respond so as to prevent injustice the other way (and also sometimes not fully restore justice)". By ex...
Let's define the term 'love'. The Christian love, agape, means "willing the good to the object loved". Thus loving love yourself means willing the goo...
I will also assume that anything lower than jail time would not be sufficient to deter him. Then yes, jail time is deserved (plus rehab afterwards). L...
The disagreement is of no value if it is not backed up by an objective reason. :wink: Let's expand your example to the extreme for the sake of clarity...
Conscience is not the inclination towards comfort nor conformity. It gives info on what we ought to do, even if it goes against comfort or conformity....
I don't know much about this akrasia condition, but if he relapses, it is either out of his own free will or it is not. If the former, then he was not...
If there is no disagreement about facts, then there cannot be a disagreement via the golden rule either. What are the specific facts in your example? ...
Hello. My position is that morality is more than a mere social construct. It is discoverable through our moral sense called conscience, universal beca...
I don't fully understand what you are saying, and so my response may not be adequate. Here it is anyways. We are physical beings (though maybe not onl...
A just punishment is one that serves two goals. (1) restore justice, and (2) prevent injustice from occurring again. If the friend truly intends to pa...
If the golden rule criteria is met, then the disagreement must be about facts about the event, or else about the purpose of a punishment. As previousl...
Something doesn't add. Being merciful sounds morally good only if he is penitent. And if he is sincerely penitent, then he would intend to pay you bac...
Free will does not mean we have freedom in every way. We seem to not be free to choose to abide to the laws of physics, and we are certainly not free ...
I agree that what is objective is found either because the property is necessary, or because we observe it empirically. I also agree that we can find ...
I guess I was not very clear. My bad. The correct answer is: it depends on the facts. First, is the defend truly at fault, that is, was the crime inte...
Conventionally, objectivity means that the property described is part of the object of thought, independent of the subject of thought. Objective prope...
Got it. This is what I have been calling "primary values": What all consider to be good or bad. But I don't think this it leads to competitions. Prima...
Your position still sounds like it is for justice, dressed in different words. One more try: Your spouse cheats on you but you never find out. Your sp...
I don't believe the challenge in finding the fitting punishment lies in the difference in primary values. Rather, I believe the challenge lies in the ...
Obligation; but we still have the freedom to go for or against it. Of course. Laws of physics are discovered, not man-made; and therefore objective. A...
So anything like as stated above but not justice. So to clarify, if there is a net gain, say in the economy of a state, but for this slavery was intro...
Hello. Definitions a, b, and c: Notice how these definitions are circular because they contain the word 'justice' or 'just' in them. Definition (2): I...
But they still break the golden rule, even if they don't see it, from not thinking the treatment all the way through. Hey! Don't quote me out of conte...
Hello. Morality is the science of duty, not of facts; the science of 'what ought to be', not of 'what is'. If we are not treating each other equally, ...
That doesn't sound right. Criteria is defined as: The factors that determine the validity of a judgement or proposition. These factors are not always ...
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