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To further your analogy in context of my replies to Banno, if your camera then adds a filter along with some metadata to the picture, then that extra ...

Sure, so we could stick with perceiving properties of things. Then that can lead to questions over whether all those properties belong to the things p...

I'm confused as to how patterns can be recognized or in error if there is no pattern matcher or mind or self or whatever we want to call the organizin...

Maybe. You're taking issue with the language usage. I take it you think that leads to a problem that might not be a problem.

Are you saying that the contents of dreams are real? Your use of perception in dreams is highly non-standard. In any case, dream experiences mostly do...

So the world is a heterogenous flux allowing for seeing different kinds of patterns. And this flux on occasion produces pattern matchers? I'm asking h...

Do you think bats have experiences that might differ qualitatively from ours in some aspects? If not bats, then dolphins, dogs, chimps even other peop...

I understand it to be that since direct realists deny the contention that we're aware of some mental idea or representation when perceiving (instead o...

What is meant by "unsharable content" in this thread? That you can't talk about it? Or that other people can't directly access it? Even direct realist...

Yeah, that is definitely worth quibbling over! So, do you exist? But then how does the subdividing happen? What's making the distinctions? Is it "your...

So what you're saying is that other people exist, it's just that our talk of other minds is itself a model, and the model can be disputed. You're disp...

If I recall correctly, Parmaneides argued that since nothing does not exist, change is impossible, because otherwise things like the past would cease ...

Right, but we could reframe the debate to be how I experience the rock and how the rock is, assuming they are not the same thing. If we have good reas...

If so, I guess he's arguing with himself to sharpen up the model? I didn't get to read through the entire thread so I'm not sure where that part of th...

The experience itself is inaccessible, because you don't have someone else's pain. But you might very well find out someone is or was in pain, and hav...

Because it would be used by courts and doctors. I didn't say there was no effect, just that we can't always know what it is in other people. Of course...

The sensation correlates with other human behavior enough of the time in situations that are often painful to use that word for it. There's probably e...

Yes, but we also don't have any method that will allow us to always read the signs.

Alright, so have you ever found out someone was feeling discomfort when you didn't realize it, or vice versa? I drink too much the night before and wa...

But we don't and we can't always identify what someone else is experiencing. That's just a fact of our existence. We only have partial access to other...

I don't think there's any reason to think supernagic is real, but it's meaningful. That's why we can create fictional stories with supernagic in it. T...

Sounds rather continental.

That was informative. I agree that subjectivity is not measurable. but it's the way we experience the world. However, that still leaves related ontolo...

But it isn't, or we'd always know whether someone was in pain. There's even medical situations where a patient will complain about a condition their d...

But some animals, humans in particular, do develop a theory of mind where we can look at the context of someone's identical actions and infer their in...

Ultimately because at some point primate/monkey ancestors developed mirror neurons and were able to formulate some theory of mind to understand other ...

By watching people pretend and being told they were pretending, then doing the same thing myself.

How would I know that people can pretend to be in pain, like actors or liars? Is that really going to be your argument?

So how does phenomenology help avoid those topics? So we start with our experiences of being in the world. But at some point don't those old questions...

That's not why I use the word pain, but okay, maybe the rest of you zombies use it that way. I use it to refer to feeling pain, not my resulting actio...

Turn that around and you have the same problem. If there were no subjective experiences of pain how would we ever learn the word? We wouldn't, because...

To denote that our experiences are not mirrors of reality, and thus when we create explanations of reality, we have to take that into account. A physi...

So you're a color realist. Alright, fine. But at least with pain we have something clearly subjective.

Would you say the same thing about pain?

So you think that the colors we experience are out there in the world? Are they attached to photons or molecules? How do they get into our brains? Doe...

Scratch a Wittgensteinian and you get a Humean.

Some people can visualize to that level of detail. I like you, have never been able to do that. But i do hear my thoughts as if they were spoken.

Right, but noting this distinction is a rebuttal to the those who want to dissolve the issue by saying that being part of reality means the internal/e...

If they weren’t separable, then physics would be very much like our naive perception, and the ancient skeptics would have had little material to start...

Basically. We don’t see photons or molecular surfaces. Rather we see chairs and apples.

so you’re basically a panpsychist? Everything has a little bit of consciousness.

so what is the functional account of seeing red when processing a particular wavelength of light. What would the code look look like? What is it like ...

To avoid a semantic debate over the word seeing, we can distinguish a red perceptual experience from an internally generated one. This demonstrates th...

The question is asking what the word is like instead of how we think and perceive the world to be, which has clearly undergone lots of revision over t...

It's not a trivialism when we try to determine whether machines can be conscious, which is also the case for other animals. Does a pig or a cow experi...

We're asking if bats have kinds of experiences that we don't because there physiology differs, particularly with the use of sonar. Surely human experi...

You can imagine or dream it. You can also do an activity while paying attention to something else, thus not experiencing it. An example would be drivi...

This is wrong, because we do have experiences of seeing red without seeing red. Dreams, memory, imagination and optical illusions do not count as seei...

Is the sustainability of the paddock fixed to a certain number of cows?

4. Find an economic model that supports the commons. I wonder what happens after the tragedy of the commons? Life goes on so the tragedy can't be the ...