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But you know better than black voters what their interest are and how they should approach the current situation. It's quite telling how a protest ove...

Antjuan Seawright, starting at 0:25, explains why violence is not the right strategy, and how peaceful responses in the past to injustice led to chang...

This is was also a step in the right direction where the police chief tells officers to resign who didn't have a problem with kneeling on someone's ne...

That's a good point.

Yeah: Problem is you need the Justice System to enforce it. I'll agree with Street about one thing in this thread. The officer should be charged with ...

Here's one idea for reform. A national registry for bad cops so they don't get rehired. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1AH53ymcnM

It's not their fight, and they tend to be more pro-police and military. It's the elected officials they have a beef with. In particular, Democrats. Al...

Not a shootout and not one group of protesters fighting another angry group. The police departments need to be reformed. People need to vote for candi...

Good question but best if they stay home.

Trump does need to shut the fuck up and not iinflame matters further. Let someone more responsible in his administration talk when necessary. Revoke h...

I might not have a say, but he does: https://youtu.be/4XVXFCtJmUI

There's a lot of that in this thread for a philosophy forum.

Ilhan Omar on how those destroying minority businesses are not part of the protest or interested in justice. https://www.facebook.com/IlhanMN/videos/2...

Sorry to disappoint you, but the state won't collapse.

Well, you might say your body is part of external reality. That you have a body moving about in the world proves there is a world. Some people want to...

Fair enough, but the Tulsa riot started over what the white people saw as a black uprising because of a shootout when armed black folk came to protect...

This is the right way: https://i.postimg.cc/cHXWJDzt/The-Way-Forward.png Places were police join the peaceful protesters, listen to what they have to ...

Thing is that a jury gets to decide that unless they convince him to plead guilty for the good of the country. So you never know. Should we riot over ...

Yeah, maybe let black people police their communities so at least you remove the racial factor. It needs to be coordinated and supported by the city. ...

You mean like the being tough on crime or the war on drugs? Yeah, that's an issue. Problem is then with he voters liking that sort of thing. At least ...

Agreed with this, but sanctioned by the local government.

Everyone might end up on deciding they don't want you throwing their toys out the pram. It's a good way to create a backlash.

And being a cop is attractive to bullies. They need to be screened out of the hiring process. So does anyone with ties to racist groups.

Are you suggesting Derek Chauvin was maybe part of a plot to start off a race war? I have heard that some of the rioters are also alt-right, looking t...

Infinitely worse than destroying things that have nothing to do with the police? What kind of moral argument is that? Do you not see just how extreme ...

China's economic system is capitalist now. And they have a large middle class because they switched.

Capitaliism?

It's absurd that the socialists in this thread thinks there's a chance in hell of that.

That's often what happens. And you run the risk of some general taking over and becoming dictator. In this case, an actual revolution has the cops sta...

Arguably, it was. And for all the great principles the US espoused as part of that revolution, America's history is more violent than Canada's. Violen...

More than that, in this thread anyway. People dying and starving to overturn the system. And doing whatever you want since the social contract is void...

It is. And apparently if you don't understand that nuance, then you're supporting police violence. Very nuanced indeed. Also extremist rhetoric.

Tay Anderson wants the white rioters to stop.

And you can't tolerate dissent. But okay, if that is a poor arguing technique on my own, I should work on it. However, fuck you for accusing me of bad...

That's bullshit. You just don't like people who disagree with you.

You can't help yourself, can you? Disagreement doesn't mean bad faith. Unless you're an extremist. But thanks for the videos, I haven't watched them y...

The pandemic is the fault of the greedy rich? What was the unemployment rate before Covid in the US?

They will do better as they have more access to jobs and global markets. The trend in global poverty is going down. There's also a lot of factors at p...

That is a problem, but the standard of living also goes up across the board over time. Capitalism's excesses need to be corrected for.

So why not more progressive taxation and larger inheritance taxes with better safety nets? No reason to throw out the baby that's raised the standard ...

i don't think socialists understand that.

I agree with that. It's the looting and burning and things spiraling out of control with people getting hurt. That's on the police as well as the riot...

True. What does cognitive science say about animal intelligence? Would it be the same for us, plus the linguistic ability where we translate beliefs t...

I don't know comrade. Tell me.

Sounds like a logical fallacy.

You mean you're itching for the greedy, evil capitalistic system to burn. The thing that's the cause of all evil in the world.

And that's how all kinds of bad shit gets justified during a revolution. How does arguing on here for a socialist revolution do that?

The one that wants to burn society to the ground versus the one that doesn't.

So fix that with more dying and starving? Maybe there's a better way.

Your side lost the moral argument.