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Ultimately, the black protestors should be the ones setting the terms of the protests, not the white ones. So if a majority of black protestors want a...

Yes, except for homeland defense. Yeah, did they have to? Should they have? It sets the precedent for future violence. I don't know that radical pacif...

Done okay in terms of not having killed millions, installed a dictatorship or become an imperialist power. There are still other issues. Societies hav...

You're right. Not a good example.

Because people die, and not just those in power. And the result is often times worse. The US revolution was a better result, but not the French. The A...

So you approve of the peaceful protests. Cool.

No, but they're generally better than no order. Unfortunately, none of the systems are fine. Some are less worse.

What, a thumbs up? I'm confused.

https://i.postimg.cc/ncGYYCsY/peaceful-protest.png

No, because a lot of people will die, regardless of the outcome.

Is it even the tactics of BLM or most other black groups to be violent? We've said a lot about the violence, but a majority of the protestors are peac...

Everyone who isn't a warlord, ultimately.

China sure turned out to be a shining socialist example. Both authoritarian and capitalist!

I don't know. I'm just shocked and disgusted that they're okay with people being harmed as long as it wrecks the system, for those who seem to want th...

The context was large scale peaceful protests being unsuccessful the past 50 years.

For people to figure out how to divide up power. .

But for what end? Who wins?

When has there been such a thing on this scale since the 60s? You could rightfully argue there should have been one before this. But we'll see what th...

The ongoing peaceful protest, which had everyone's backing, with a few exceptions like understandably torching the police precinct after the cops vaca...

I'd think you'd make a really good fascist, given a chance.

I agree with that. Doesn't require looting and burning.

It's the violent white protesters destroying and instigating shit that really make me angry. Right, left or just spoiling for a fight, doesn't matter.

As if using a specific word is the only way to to discuss an idea, you dumb shit. And it's not even literally true. I went back and checked.

Possibly. Likely several different groups trying to infiltrate.

I love how the protestors stopped that dude from trying to turn things violent. Handing him over the the police is hilarious! I was watching a live st...

aRe yOu FoUrTeEn?

That's a separate argument with other posters in this thread who want an actual revolution because they view capitalism as the root of all the injusti...

LOL!

I don't fully agree with Baden (or yourself), but he wasn't turning this into a revolution against capitalism. Nor did he make an argument that anythi...

So what is the outcome of all this? It might force political reform. But it could have the opposite effect of crackdowns and more support for Trump's ...

Well said. I'm not a skeptic, but I think their arguments are meaningful, and can't be as easily dismissed as waving one's hands about.

Or I don't agree with what Street and a couple other socialists have said. Baden was making a more reasonable argument. Nah, I'll do it here. They hav...

Yeah, probably not.

You mean different regions becoming their own countries? The protests aren't aimed at succession, and they have a common goal which is to force police...

Well, call it mental, subjective, inner or whatever, the skeptic has doubt because of issues with perception, memory, equally good arguments for and a...

What do you think would replace it?

Yeah, this blew up real fast.

I admire how organized and disciplined the HK protestors are.

You're right.

Imagine thinking this is necessary. Listen to that guy's anguish over having his business burned down. https://twitter.com/i/status/126684737172554138...

Pretty much. It accomplishes nothing against the skeptic. Like skeptics hadn't considered having hands before.

Yeah, it's better to err on the side of caution than risk something a lot worse.

Our perception. Hands have nerves, so they're part of it.

Here's a good reddit quote: https://i.postimg.cc/qv57xStp/reddit-stop-the-looters.png

Protesters hand a rioter over to police for what looks like trying to break off some concrete to throw it. That's what's needed. And the police need t...

Police being confrontational has escalated the situation unlike places where they joined the protests. Maybe it would be best at this point to back of...

Care to enforce that?

I can't wait for Biden to win in November.

Was any of it untrue, asshole?

I quoted an NPR article, dumbass. But you can go look up the percentage of black folks who vote democratic. 91% voted for Hillary. Bernie lost the pri...