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The continuous experience, unless you want to break perceived time down into atoms.

The coffee not being sugared is a chemical fact. The coffee not tasting sweet is the experience. You're equivocating here.

Why suppose it needs to be broken down into instances? Our experiences change all the time. But it does depend on the experience. Focus on one of the ...

Because some of them are properties of perception. Three people are in a room. It feels cold to the first, warm to the second and just right for the t...

iIts inherent in the subjective differences between individuals. Thus why we recognize that people have different tastes. “Oh, so coffee tastes good f...

Even if so, we can’t communicate what it’s like, so we can’t know that from the functioning of a bat or robot. Unless it’s the same as ours. Bat sonar...

Yes, but one could suppose, like Chalmers has, that qualia is tied to function, or rich information streams, via some non physical scientific law.

I’m building on the foundation that there is a way things seem to us. How we express this in language, and which terms work is a secondary matter. The...

So just because I’m tasting the coffee doesn’t mean there is a taste of coffee? Just because I see a color illusion, doesn’t mean there is a color ill...

I’m not sure how to parse this.

At the end of all this discussion, however successful Dennett is in his intuition pumping, I wish to preserve the what it’s like. That is the one aspe...

How would you have a preference if the coffee didn’t taste like something to you? I wonder if @"Banno" really is wanting to go this far. Seems like it...

An existence claim. You can’t have movie preferences without movies.

You can't tell a blind person what it's like to see color, no matter the words you use. There is something inexpressible for sensory modalities. Which...

This is what David de Leon has to say in response to not being able to tell whether the quale of the coffee taste has changed (or surgically altered),...

Good point. I forget about that. There is something it's like which is being changed. Similar to your statement that illusions make a noticeable diffe...

Intution pumps 8-12 look like we don't have direct access to previous qualia such that we can answer the question, Just the memory of them. And memori...

We have this from late in the article: This illustrates Dennett's denial most vividly. A difference in conscious experience could be nothing more than...

Maybe so, and it's even worse as we get farther away from our biology, such as when Data tastes wine.

So why were you tempted to agree that science needed to modify our nervous system in order for us to know?

Or at least, that's what the abstracted third-party account tells us, according to Dennett's setup. Doesn't change my first person experience.

I should have added that science can't tell us that that bat necessarily has a sonar sensation, only whether it has recognizable neural structures (by...

Qualia are the resulting sensations that consciousness is made up of. But we only know that from first person experience. Solpsism is a difficult posi...

@"Banno"@"Creative"@"Isaac"@"fdrake" Regarding privacy, one might say our mental activity is not radically private, in that an advanced enough science...

I think a problem here is supposing that qualia is supposed to be able to tell us something about our neurology. But maybe the qualia is just the resu...

Here is the crux of the matter, for me anyway. Dennett does not think the appearance of having sensations can be considered qualia in any meaningful s...

A series of intuition pumps meant to walk the reader through disabusing them of the intuition that conscious experience has any sort of qualia-like pr...

Having finished rereading Quining Qualia, I'll answer the question one post at a time. That conscious experience is the dispositional, relational and ...

Yes.

Au contraire, it is the qualophobes who discard experence for the functional, dispisotional properties of the process.

The various color, sound, taste sensations, but those are words used in language, so naturally you will complain that I'm using language.

Just want to point to out again that about a third of elgible voters didn’t vote, so Trump really has a little less than a third of the country’s supp...

Must be.

I don’t care whether we use qualia, I just don’t agree with Dennett’s quining the phenomenonal in total, such that the seeming isn’t really. But sure,...

[ Dennett also thinks being a collection mindless robots forming a meme machine does no real harm to free will, consciousness or intentionality.

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Yes.

We can call the appearance that if you prefer it to qualia. It doesn’t remove the what it’s like or seems to each of us. I will answer your three ques...

I guess, for perception anyway. What’s important is the appearance, not my muddled attempt to answer you.

I might be equivocating on Locke here, but the primary ones are taken to be related to the objective ones. We see a shape extended in three dimensions...

Well actually it would be better to say the entire experience is qualia, in that’s how a keyboard appears, but certain properties such as shape or ref...

You want me to remove all the properties of language and then report my experiences to you? They aren’t linguistic. The language is just a reference.

Something that can’t be communicated, apparently. Insert Luke’s comment on showing here.

Thoughts I hear in my head. Or see in my imagination. Or remember with whatever sensory modality. Since we’re both human, we have similar enough exper...

Qualia are the secondary qualities of perception. They’re not properties of chairs.

One wonders what Dennett means by unspoken thoughts. Surely not “inner dialog”?

As much as I do for the external world. And yes, you don’t know that I see the same thing without verification of some sort.

I’m self-reporting to you. I don’t require a self-report of my own experiences. But I do need it for others. Thus the privacy of experience. Now if yo...

Not to me it isn’t. Maybe you’re a p-zombie?

The appearance or the seeming. It appears that I see color, feel pain, etc. it’s those sensations.