The Great Whatever

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Okay. I think this is deeply, deeply confused. But we can leave it there.

Look, I really don't want to continue this. I refer you to my previous comments on illusion. Illusion is not some kind of 'second substance' or someth...

Compassion can be conventional, though. I do believe in compassion, but I doubt it's the watery-eyed universal force that a kind of Christian sentimen...

Okay, I really don't want to continue this conversation anymore. I'm sorry, I just don't think it will be profitable, given that you're still on this ...

No, I'm saying your objection doesn't make sense, because you're presenting two thing alongside one another as if they're contradictory when there's n...

This makes no sense, friend.

But that's simple. The misconception comes from thinking of time as if it were transcendentally real, rather than ideal, and so making category errors...

I got into this a little with csalisbury before, but I think this is a fundamental misunderstanding of what an illusion is. It's not as if there is a ...

Okay, sure. What can happen, though, is that the will in objectifying itself presents representation itself as arising in time, via presenting biologi...

I have my own disagreements with Schopenhauer as far as the text goes, but have not been articulating them here. I have only been reproducing, to the ...

I didn't know we were talking about 'my' interpretations?

I really do not understand what your question/complaint is. You just quoted things we've already been over back a me, so I'm not sure what you want. T...

No, the subject must be. The subject is not the organism, or any worldly object. There is no reason. You're thinking of the principle of sufficient re...

I am still trying to figure out where, and whether, we actually disagree on this, because I am having trouble understanding what you're saying. If by ...

If you're serious about this question there must be something you fundamentally misunderstand about the account. It might help if you laid it out piec...

Yes, but that doesn't mean that the consciousness had to be there 'all along' since the beginning of time. In fact if the subject is the transcendenta...

If you guys want to do a reading group, I am up for it. I just finished some things and have some extra reading time. And I haven't read any philosoph...

Sorry, I think I lost the plot a bit. Yes, I agree that your closeness to someone is what makes it painful for them if you die, which in turn is a dei...

I don't know what to say. You already agreed with me that the empirical reality of there being time before an organism is guaranteed by the structure ...

I don't think divine punishment and hell is about vengeance, it's something more disturbing than that. But then, like the brutalizer, you're to be for...

No, the person the murderer-who-deserves-torture kills is a woman. Not even a child, mind you, but a woman.

Well sure, I doubt people are literally sensitive to other people's genes. They'd probably be sensitive to outward epiphenomena causally linked to tho...

A fun jab for csalisbury here, too --- note the gender of Agustino's perfect / most heinous victim. And note your lack of surprise at noticing this.

It would feel like a rationalization, probably, like with countless other things. The language that explains what is going on in a phenomenon is never...

No, and I think something is wrong with you if you do. I can understand the natural desire for vengeance, the repaying of insult to maintain honor, an...

"They asserted also that errors ought to meet with pardon; for that a man did not err intentionally, but because he was influenced by some external ci...

Moral anti-realism is the mainstream position in modern philosophy and Western society at large.

I'm not sure, actually. The 'right' answer is supposed to be it's indifferent, but I wouldn't be surprised if people had unconscious biases toward peo...

Your friends. BUT if you equalized it so that you knew all of them equally in your life and had equal experience with them, your biological kin.

Maybe. There's ways other than age to get things going, though, like trauma.

Biology is just old habit and convention.

There are probably biological reasons people care for their families, and there probably aren't any having to do with putting elbows on the table. Whe...

No, the latter is deeper ingrained. Some people overcome it obviously, but it's not that hard to put your elbows on the table.

Yeah, and when a rationalization is needed something like 'I'm a good person' is a good go-to.

No, as in the human body, not a biology class. Humans are animals, we do whatever we're conditioned to do.

Biology, I guess.

No, less trivial things that you probably aren't aware of.

Whatever you got told when you were young is a good place to start.

I don't know if those are reasons. Maybe pleasure is a reason in some sense. I don't think it's a matter of looking at what's right and then deciding ...

I don't see why compassion is singled out for not having a reason. Most things don't have reasons. Some have rationalizations, which is not quite the ...

I just don't want to, I don't think I need a reason. I think you could convince people that loving their family was bad, tell them they're on the wron...

But if they did, they wouldn't have children. So they can't. *shrug* They 'like compassion' only and exactly insofar as it aligns with whatever other ...

Either. I think people like conquest, sex, security, admiration, victory, comfort, money, that sort of thing. Yeah, or at least I think I've said it b...

Let me put it another way -- I can comprehend thinking it's okay, because I used to think it was. What I can't comprehend is both being compassionate ...

I don't think my life in particular is an unspeakable horror (but some people's are). But it's not great, and birth is literally the source of all bad...

What passes for empathy seems to me to be this aestheticized horse crap, though, which ultimately always finds convenient excuses for why the sufferin...

So the response seems to be, 'that can't be right because it's aesthetically displeasing.' Apparently we need to 'do services' to suffering? What does...

I'm just going to add that the truth of it, and the reason why all of it seems comical when the pain hits, is that nothing helps, nothing at all. Pain...