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October 20, 2016 at 04:30
If we're not seeing the future, then protention is not, contrary to Husserl's claims, preception. We can of course project into the future without see...
October 20, 2016 at 01:14
How does retaining the sound of a past tonic describe the hearing any more than the present perception of a tonic-colored dominant? If I satiate my ta...
October 19, 2016 at 20:10
Insofar as Derrida's conclusions are in conflict with the principle of principles, yes it would threaten the project. But again this would turn on ref...
October 19, 2016 at 15:36
But it seems to me the stretching things into a length is what's artificial. In other words you have to see the timeline as implicitly linear already ...
October 19, 2016 at 15:34
I think I gave the piece you quoted a pretty fair reading and looked it over a few times. I don't find anything in it but incredulity. It may be that ...
October 19, 2016 at 04:37
I'm not sure what you're getting at. Why does Derrida first talk about protention alongside retention, then silently drop only to retention, apparentl...
October 19, 2016 at 04:22
How can I distinguish that from living purely in a present where I simply know what to do at each (the only) moment? Put another way, perhaps protenti...
October 19, 2016 at 04:18
Also, note the oddity that if protention is literally perceptive, this means that the future is in some sense 'there' to be seen. A disruption would h...
October 19, 2016 at 04:13
That is hard for me to separate from secondary anticipation, though. Sure, I expect things all the time, but I also have little memories flitting back...
October 19, 2016 at 04:08
MU, I wouldn't associate the sign with protention as you have. The possibility of repetition generally, or expectation generally, is something far and...
October 19, 2016 at 03:40
The absolute flow is hard to comment on because it's hard to understand – few people have 'real ideas' in their lives, and I think this is one of them...
October 17, 2016 at 13:52
I don't understand what you mean. The perception does not 'turn into' representation at its far end. Representation is going to be things like seconda...
October 17, 2016 at 13:31
Here, as I see it, is 'the problem.' One of Husserl's primary concerns in his account of time-consciousness is to demonstrate that perception is not c...
October 17, 2016 at 13:28
I'm not sure exactly what the context of that quote was, but one of the main theses of the Internal Time Consciousness lectures was to refute the psyc...
October 17, 2016 at 05:57
Then why is it so crucial for Derrida to overturn Husserl's own insistence here? Clearly Husserl believes in some sort of primacy of the primal impres...
October 17, 2016 at 05:45
That picture is not representative of Chalmers' style, which is a shame, because he has one of my favorite 'philosopher looks.'
October 17, 2016 at 05:31
To illustrate this as concretely as possible, here is Derrida on p. 55 (my bold, his italics): This is, in a way, the whole point of this chapter. But...
October 17, 2016 at 04:48
My biggest puzzlement with this chapter, before more substantial commentary: the argument here explicitly depends on Derrida not taking Husserl at his...
October 17, 2016 at 04:32
If you're not here to talk to things at least tangentially related to V&P, take it to another thread or PM.
October 16, 2016 at 13:49
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October 16, 2016 at 03:36
Universality and objectivity require intersubjectivity, and the ability to constitute others and relay the results of observation. This requires a com...
October 16, 2016 at 03:35
This is not an assumption of phenomenology.
October 16, 2016 at 03:03
OK, halfway mark, Chapter 5 tomorrow, on everyone's favorite, time consciousness. Moliere, let us know if you are still willing to summarize.
October 16, 2016 at 01:22
Interesting. I've always enjoyed experiencing art or participating in spirituality, but have never really enjoyed commentary on them that much. Some o...
October 15, 2016 at 13:13
I really love the formal semantic tradition in analytic philosophy, actually (which Witti is a part of), to the extent that I don't mind reading endle...
October 15, 2016 at 05:46
Yeah, the invocation of the Muses is interesting. I do believe in the Muses, and I'm even for going back to ingenuously thanking them before a written...
October 15, 2016 at 04:35
Sure, but none of this goes anywhere toward justifying the kinds of sweeping claims you're praising MP or Derrida for, and which are still a bad descr...
October 15, 2016 at 04:32
I don't know, I'm not schizophrenic. Maybe schizophrenic people think like this, but I do not. I do explicitly carry on dialogue with myself at times,...
October 15, 2016 at 04:10
The choices, in my experience, warp around a core, and what surprises me as the years pass is how little what happens to me changes me, and how much I...
October 15, 2016 at 04:06
I agree, but I don't see any reason to believe that those inherited forms privilege language or gesture in any interesting way. Even trying to concept...
October 15, 2016 at 03:42
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October 15, 2016 at 03:31
Okay. All I am saying is that I don't see anything of thought as I actually live through it in these accounts. It sounds like an alien who lives a ver...
October 15, 2016 at 03:18
I think I agree, all I am saying is that sometimes the way you are wording it makes it seem as if there's first an imagination of a word, and then a r...
October 15, 2016 at 03:16
I think it is the difference between a real communicative linguistic act and an imagination of this (which is the representation). Not a a representat...
October 15, 2016 at 01:38
I agree with that as far as writing fiction as a genre. I thought the focus was on fiction in the sense of imagining speech (whether the imaginary spe...
October 15, 2016 at 01:33
I reread Chapter 4 this afternoon and don't really understand any better. The point about language use in imagination and actuality collapsing because...
October 15, 2016 at 01:16
Out of curiosity, do you believe this? It seems like it can give you a sort of theoretical elegance, especially if, like MP, and Derrida, you want tho...
October 14, 2016 at 14:52
I see the pull of the idea that a sign's function is carried out in full whether any actual tokening of the sign exists, and that even an imaginary si...
October 14, 2016 at 03:04
J.N. Findlay was an OLP guy and some-time devotee of Wittgenstein who renegaded hard and disavowed the whole philosophy, turning to classical idealism...
October 14, 2016 at 02:57
Maybe the reason I'm not that surprised by this is that I think I can and have done it? Whether or not this ability is independently mysterious, it se...
October 14, 2016 at 02:44
It's not entirely clear. Husserl thinks that there's a sense in which perception is primary presentation, and imagination, memory, etc. are secondary,...
October 14, 2016 at 02:41
I may just be more sympathetic to Husserl, but I don't find expression more mysterious than indication. It's linguistic meaning capable of taking part...
October 13, 2016 at 23:44
MU, imagination is representative not in the sense that it has to depict some real thing, but in the sense that for Husserl it's derivative of percept...
October 13, 2016 at 17:16
Pomo is for attracting mates.
October 13, 2016 at 01:36
Yes and no, and Derrida talks a little bit about this. On the one hand, phenomenology is opposed to traditional metaphysics (and some phenomenologists...
October 12, 2016 at 14:33
Wow, that's...frank. I mean, I don't find it moving. But it's frank. It reminds me of a lot of old epigrams about being too afraid to live or die.
October 12, 2016 at 14:27
Yeah, I've always thought this regarding secondary presentations of Derrida. There's comfort in knowing something can be infinitely deferred.
October 12, 2016 at 14:21
I'm not sure what to think about Husserl on the subject anymore. The absolute flow is a mind-boggling concept, very deep and very hard to fathom, as i...
October 12, 2016 at 00:23
From what I've read, Chapter 5 is the most important. It also seems to me to contain the decisive point at which Derrida has to choose a reading of Hu...
October 11, 2016 at 23:35