Banno

Coming to this a bit late.... Isn't Smith's true belief improperly justified? He believes p v q, because he believes p; and yet ~p, but q. Does Smith ...

So if one says a blastocyst is not a human being, one is equivocating?

dclements, Rude bugger.

So close...

So Mill's "the moral coercion of public opinion" is a misuse of the term?

So... threats of physical violence, terrorist propaganda, and such things would count as coercion?

Not according to my understanding. But the wider point is that apparently you think one can say anything?

Well, it's a bit better than "featherless biped".

They are. They just cannot do it in front of the clinic, since that is seen as coercion.

But now you are condoning the coercion of those seeking an abortion... I asked You replied I gave an example of such coercion. You re-described it as ...

So this law, making it illegal to harass people within 150-metres of abortion providers, would meet with your approval? http://www.theage.com.au/victo...

So would that legal agreement be that you would refrain from attempting to coerce those who seek abortions, and those who are willing to perform abort...

This made me laugh.

What is interesting is how do you see rational discussion, and if you think it possible for people of good will to reach considered detente on moral i...

I have no great interest in the abortion debate; nor in the philosophical yoga you need in order to support a position you inherited from your religio...

Should we go into this? Your definition is dreadful. With no external interference the blastocyst will die. It is parasitic on the woman. I had a frie...

That view is wide open to debate. I had a fried egg for breakfast, not a fried chicken.

Well, that's what I understood you to be claiming. If I am wrong, let me know. We appear to broadly agree on our moral framework. Where we differ is t...

So your contention is that a blastocyst is a human being. I think that quite absurd. and your point here is, as I understand you, that there is no way...

And if the doctor had no issues with the removal, that would be fine?

SO you would not object to it being removed.

So presumably if asked to participate in a vote on whether homosexuals ought have the right to marry, you would say "yes". I'm wondering how you would...

Our conversation? There's not a lot of clarity here.

To the best of my knowledge, I did not have napoleon's experiences. If you think I did, you have some explaining to do.

When what is thought to be one's freedom is exactly that which harms another, it ceases to be one's freedom. An example: one's freedom of religious ex...

Then we have nothing to discuss. Or perhaps you might explain what a subject is?

Looks like a word game to me.

I've no idea what it might mean.

Indeed, that is the issue.

Being the object of perception is not grounds for individuation. Individuation is something we do, not something we see. Further, if self is always in...

Should we describe ourselves as "rejoining" the core self, or as adding a new self to it?

So when what is deemed to be one's freedom is exactly that which harms another, what is to be done?

SO you would not suggest that, say, because homosexuality considered is distasteful, it ought be banned? Nor that because it is for you immoral, it ou...

I'm asking these questions in order to get a feel for the extent of what freedoms are allowable.

OK; pedophilia, then, which involves coercion of a child, would be unacceptable?

So they ought not be coerced to abstain from sexual intercourse, if they so choose?

True. So- Homosexuality should not be prevented if it is between consenting adults?

Fine. So what stands is that people are entitled to decide what happens to their own body, against the objections of others. Another example: homosexu...

Oh, sure. Consistency is important. But if a doctor were willing to perform the operation on the ulcer, under what circumstances should the operation ...

And if someone had a lesion, an ulcer, and others said that it was a good and important thing, not to be cut out, that would not be grounds for denyin...

So you would not be in favour of coercing a man to have a vasectomy, for example, if that was decided to be the best way to ease rampant population gr...

SO the principle behind liberalism, that one ought not force the choices of another, is acceptable to you. Then am I right in thinking that for you it...

So you agree that we ought protect the freedom to choose?

I'm not pretending that the injunction leads to simple solutions. But such difficulties do not make the injunction wrong. Thanks for introducing abort...

These are not mutually exclusive. Is your point that we need not protect freedom of choice where possible? That is, is it your view that while all are...

yep.

Meh. The only part I disagree with is your restricting coercion to what is legally permitted. One can coerce illegally. Moot point. The other word we ...

How is it that you deny what is before you?