Banno

A fair counter - yet I remain unconvinced. It seems to me that a brain suffering some malady that changes it's structure will attempt to make sense of...

OR we could just ask, "what sort of a dick pushes a small man until he has to fight, then beats the crap out of him?" https://www.theatlantic.com/poli...

Bump. It'll get there, even if I have to drag it there by myself. Time is on my side. But I might give time a hand by pointing out that while a blasto...

The problem is that even if we grant the experiences as consistent, how do we tell that they are not a phantom of a brain starved of oxygen (or some o...

It's a good first step; but so much more is involved. Consider the ancient distinction that splits knowing into knowing how... and knowing that..., an...

Here I think we are getting closer to what is going on in the Theaetetus. One way we can be certain is when we take things as the bedrock of our discu...

What does that mean? That you learned that the cup is red in a different way to how you learn that I learned that the cup is red? Did you learn about ...

I'm wondering if this is one of the points at which you and Creative pass each other by.

Exactly. Does he believe it independently, or as a result of his assuming that logic applies to the objects of belief statements. If the former, it's ...

Sure. But should he? He does so for no other reason than Gettier's narrative security.

That quote tells me nothing.

The ethics of putting the needs of "potential" humans over those of actual humans... It deserves the derision it has received. Lets be sure, the OP is...

Indeed.

Start by not asking other folk how you might live.

Indeed, a cat/dog dualist might insist on their being incommensurate. A cat/dog monist might insist that cats and dogs are both mammals. These are not...

Consider: S believes p p is justified p Therefore S knows p against S believes p p is justified ~p Sam does not know p. and against S believes p S bel...

We're told S believes p, hence S believes (p v q). If someone objects, what you gonna do?

And then there is the further point, made previously, that no one actually thinks the definition worthwhile, anyway.

I'm just thinking this through for my own sake. It's supposed to be a reductio, disproving the definition: If r, and S believes r, and r is justified,...

Nice.

Why? Rather, a monist would reject that very distinction. The "must" is what a dualist might think the monist must do. Monists might well disagree.

I'm not going.

An intersting notion. So Moore might believe he has a hand, and yet doubt it. Or Moore might know he has a hand, and yet doubt it. But not Moore might...

In the dream of Socrates, the account that accompanies true belief is an analysis of the complex in terms of the simple. The rejection of that account...

So it wasn't the bulge that first entranced Zeus. It seems their tipple was just water.

Does biochemistry apply to gods?

Permaculture is cool. A shame about the religious contamination in your thinking. I'm off to plant a few potatoes.

Well, no. To develop into a fully grown human being - a person - the blastocyst will need considerable support.

Damn.

Exactly. It's not a problem for non-dualists. The Cartesian(?) solution was simply to say that God made the body do what the will decided. Not an acce...

Justification does not appear in the Theaetetus; it's a modern variant. In the Theaetetus the third component is the Logos; analysed in various ways. ...

No. Banno was saying that there is more to morality than just doing stuff that does not piss other people off. Quite a bit more.

I would say that is exactly what they believe. It's implicit in the word dualist.

There's a lot to contemplate here, but I think this might be the most interesting... This is such a commonplace that it almost passes without critique...

interesting. So is it important to have a tight definition of knowledge in order to maintain that distinction?

Hm. How does knowledge sit with thought?

I'me just filling in time by sharing a few thoughts more or less on the topic. In doing so I found an interesting link between the Theaetetus and Witt...

"If..."

But that's not right. The Theaetetus is famously inconclusive as to a definition of knowledge, and instead is perhaps best seen as arguing against emp...

So morality is mere courtesy? Isn't it rather the case that one ought do what is right, even if that means not getting on with the other fellow?

https://appliedsentience.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/p-then-q1.png If we understand the arrow above to be justifies or some cognate... Then if the con...

Is that so? Who, before Gettier, took it seriously?

IS that the only choice, certainty nothing? What irks me about Gettier is that he appears to be assaulting a straw man. Who is it that believes knowle...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=491&v=Zh3Yz3PiXZw

@"Creative", do you think that knowledge is equivalent to justified true belief? Just wondering.

A belief isn't justified if the justification is false. But you are right; instead of being false, in this case the justification is insufficient.

Sure. But we know that what Smith thinks is a good reason for believing p v q is actually a very bad reason - it is false. So although Smith thinks he...

This should read: ((p v q) is true if...(insert true statement(s) regarding what makes this particular disjunction true) "Smith believes p, therefore ...

Sure about that? The JTB account of course has its origin in the Theaetetus; where it is rejected. Justification is introduced into the dialogue in pr...

So for you two, a justification need not be true. For Creative, it must. Which of you is correct?