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well, yes it does. Eventually the chess master will say that this student is just being obnoxious and is not worth the time. They do not want to learn...

possible, but irrational. Eventually there is a point where your doubt is pointless. It does not serve any purpose. At that point we are quite entitle...

Sure; but a belief does have to be such that it could be placed in the form: X believes that B. Someone with no language can show their belief. Someon...

Well, if Harry Potter were written well... My taste leans towards Tolkien. 8-)

Would @"MindForged" be surprised that an axe cuts wood so well? Logic (and mathematics) sets out how we can use words and other symbols. It's groups o...

I'm not so sure it doesn't. A private belief would not enter into the conversation; would not be able to act as an explanation for one's behaviour. In...

Would that be rational? Would it be useful? Would it make sense? Or would it indicate a failure to grasp what was going on here?

Why not: and when we do doubt, it is because we decided to do so? Why give precedence to doubt, and not certainty? From watching you, I can list innum...

?293, misquoted:

This is challenging for my suggestion that beliefs are explanations for actions. To take it a step further, does the air conditioner believe it is too...

Mental furnishing would indeed be private concepts; so we agree that they do not enter into the conversation. So while a belief is uniquely yours, it ...

Then what would we conclude? What reasons could they give for this doubt? And if their doubt is unreasonable, we can reject it. Then what do we conclu...

Understood. For me the issue is that it does not bother to explain or elucidate truth, but instead ignores it, to the extent of changing our language ...

So, is it true that Paris is the capital of France? Again, I apologise for being so evasive by bringing in the issue of names and such; or by not sett...

Thanks - I am aware it is something like that. The trouble is, even after the extensive process proposed, the community might be wrong. So that is not...

The problem is - is it true that Paris is the capital of France? It cuts to the core of our differences. You see, Paris is the capital of France. And ...

No, you gave me a clue, not an answer. OK, if you prefer, I say it is true that Paris is the capital of France. Again, from your answer, you can't say...

No, you gave me a clue: My bolding. So, is this post in English? You see, I don't think you can say "yes" consistently here. You have to say something...

Actually, what would be cool would be to answer in French... 8-)

Something like that. 8-) Let's see the master's answer.

Yeah, yeah, I'm the one being evasive. So, is it true that this thread is in English? I say yes. You say...?

It's up to you. Remember that for me defining terms is setting out how to use them. How do you use belief and truth?

If I am as bad as you say, then one supposes that you are co-dependent, since despite my failings you are still here. Here's a straight question; let'...

Rather the confession that I'm here to talk about Wittgenstein, not Peirce. Your posts are pretty much of topic. IN any case, when I have attempted an...

I accepted pragmatism for quite a few years, until I looked in to epistemology more fully. In so far as pragmatism offers a theory of truth it fails t...

The argument you presented was unconvincing. Just too obtuse to be helpful. We are not obligated to refute every single argument that comes along. Whi...

You set up a dualism at the base of your doctrine. If I don't accept your doctrine, I do not need to accept your basic dualism.

A trivial split, as opposed to your world-shattering epistemic cut.

You think this a problem because you split the speaker from the world. I don't.

@"apokrisis" Since meaning is use, sense is found by using a language. A language that was not about the world could not have a use. Consider proposit...

Yes. The next step is of course that it is always a language game. It makes no sense to talk about it being just language and not abut the world-in-it...

What do we make of someone who doubts that this is a hand? They have not understood the game. There is a way of understanding "This is a hand" that is...

Really? Not over here. For Alice, maybe.

That's another misunderstanding on your part, Apo. It's not based on perceptual experience per se. It's the participation in the shared language game ...

"Here is a hand" when I hold up my hand "3 times 4 is 12" When could it make sense to doubt either? Only when "forgetfulness, oversight or illusion" p...

I had a quick read, @"apokrisis". It's not propositions all the way down. "Here is a hand" shows the hand. Again, you play with straw. Truth as belief...

Or we could play with Apo, who as always wants to drag Peirce in. I will read his post later, as we have run out of cat litter. O:)

A sort of summary Here's the grammar I am using, just to be clear. Truth is fundamental; "There is a hand" is true just in the case that there is a ha...

Truth is not a type of belief.

That's right; OC is a critique of Moore.

Constitutive rules can be written as "X counts as Y" So "a diagonal move of any length counts as a move for a bishop in chess". "Here is a hand" can b...

Your challenge to set out criteria of hinge propositions had me go back to OC; and what I found was unsatisfactory. Several details have me re-thinkin...

Yeah, good point. The Bishop example I have been using is not from On Certainty, but from Searle in The construction of social reality. It's the disti...

Is that so hard? You must agree that something can be true and believed, true yet not believed, false yet believed, or false and not believed... If I ...

this will take a longer post, I suppose. It’s a good question. You brought me to realise I had taken an approach I adopted from Searle into my reading...

No, it doesn't. There is a fact of the mater, it is just that the fact is unknown. Being true is not the same as having been determined to be true. Tr...

Yes. Edit: Argh. Wrong answer.

It's a bit sad that you think this, when both Sam and I have explained the nature of hinge propositions at length. They are the propositions that set ...

Sweet. Was it you who pointed it out to me? Such juxtapositions are best rejected.

This is a better line of enquiry. If no one were around, it would be true and yet unstated; perhaps this might be described as true but not a truth. A...