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In a voice countermanded in the surrounding sections.
March 09, 2019 at 02:16
Are they incommensurate? Or are they doing different things? Talking past each other. They do not contradict each other.
March 09, 2019 at 01:43
Even your focus on the word "target" seems off-target... Have a look at §99. This is the other voice, answering §98. Then look at §100. Perfection doe...
March 09, 2019 at 01:36
You tell me.
March 09, 2019 at 01:22
So can you to show me the picture, if you can see that it is a picture. Perhaps it is a picture we cannot do without... Davidson, On the very idea... ...
March 09, 2019 at 00:57
Have I? Cool! How did I do that?
March 09, 2019 at 00:45
IS this what @"Metaphysician Undercover" is doing - seeing the frame rather than the picture? I think it is something like that. His points always see...
March 09, 2019 at 00:33
This isn't how it is! This is how it is! 113 & 114: we feel it must be like this, but we are only looking at the frame. and the resolution: 115: A pic...
March 09, 2019 at 00:30
It's the elephant in the brain. Those who think education is for escaping "the system" will only succeed in replacing one system with another. But wha...
March 09, 2019 at 00:26
§112 The most prominent example of a simile producing a false appearance is for me the Mashed Potato thread. "There's the potato, and then there's the...
March 09, 2019 at 00:16
§111 A bit more on depth. I had thought that the depth to which he was referring was the structure hidden in ordinary language; but then there is the ...
March 08, 2019 at 23:58
That's it. Would that @"Metaphysician Undercover" would reply to you.
March 08, 2019 at 23:51
If it were to be ismed, I might call it silentism.
March 08, 2019 at 23:50
I've felt that. Often. Thanks.
March 08, 2019 at 23:44
Mentioned this thread here.
March 08, 2019 at 23:33
Another neat example here is The aboutness of language. Here is a thread that is based on the surprise felt by @"Purple Pond". It seems to me to serve...
March 08, 2019 at 23:32
By my rejecting it.
March 08, 2019 at 23:26
Not to mention what happens in each case when they jump on your lap.
March 08, 2019 at 23:23
Education is for showing off. That’s all. Everything else is mere pretence.
March 08, 2019 at 09:15
Yep.
March 07, 2019 at 20:58
§111, depth. This part of the PI is a critique of the Tractatus, so this is an interesting section. The Tractatus sought to find the deep meaning of s...
March 07, 2019 at 20:55
I did. Slow to write at the moment. The post to you above was a response. I have misgivings about how he has phrased §109, in that to me an observatio...
March 07, 2019 at 20:43
§110. We're not to treat language as something extraordinary. Keep it simple.
March 07, 2019 at 20:39
If they were empirical problems we would need empirical theory in order to understand; but we we need is just to look? Reminds me of Kripke's quip tha...
March 07, 2019 at 20:35
Meaning is never private. It must be both.
March 07, 2019 at 20:29
Read past that and come back to it. His is a self-critique.
March 07, 2019 at 20:19
That's a very confused post.
March 06, 2019 at 20:24
Yep. So philosophical, perhaps suicide would be viewed as accepting the impossibility of creating further meaning. But then, suicide itself creates me...
March 05, 2019 at 21:09
The error in Camus, and the reason I would not count him as an existentialist, is that he insists that meaning is to be found. It isn't. It is built.
March 05, 2019 at 20:53
So, in the spirit of buggering on, I've thrice tried to summarise §109, but find it opaque. Sugetions?
March 05, 2019 at 20:41
We might agree that the issues around knowledge and certainty had much still to be said after PI; hence On Certainty. @"Fooloso4" provides an account ...
March 05, 2019 at 20:34
Indeed.
March 04, 2019 at 23:55
Damn, I didn't want to get drawn in to this. @"Metaphysician Undercover", it's as if you were asking why the bishop only move diagonally, and wanting ...
March 04, 2019 at 20:35
No, it doesn't. You added the word possible. Following the rule, or not, is shown in the doing. If the actions are in accord with the rules, that will...
March 04, 2019 at 20:12
See We choose a logic in the same way we choose the places of the pieces in a game of chess. We're not locked in. We might decide to play Chess960. Lo...
March 04, 2019 at 20:12
That's a better analysis. Cheers.
March 04, 2019 at 07:22
Reply in messages.
March 04, 2019 at 00:06
For a curious example of analogies leading to misunderstanding, see @"s"'s The mashed is the potato
March 03, 2019 at 20:43
I understand all this as saying that logic does not set out the rules of language, but that rather we choose a logic that suits what we are doing with...
March 03, 2019 at 06:33
§101 I'm reading the "we" in these texts as Wittgenstein's interlocutor, the chap to whom he is explaining an error. "We" comes close to being the ear...
March 03, 2019 at 06:28
§97 And the depth of the problem expands, so that logic is a crystal; yet the crystal is what is real (concrete). We think to grasp the essence of lan...
March 03, 2019 at 05:46
§96 More errors pile on; until we have a chain from thing through world to picture to truth to belief, and whatever else you want to add - fact goes i...
March 03, 2019 at 05:32
§95 We think we talk as if what we think is what is true... but we can also think about what is false! SO it can't be the thinking that makes it so; n...
March 03, 2019 at 05:28
§94 The temptation is to see logic as showing us how what is the case joins to what is said... But it ain't so.
March 03, 2019 at 05:26
§93 Puzzling over the illusion of a proposition being something remarkable.
March 03, 2019 at 05:24
§97 Just so I don't have to look it up again...
March 03, 2019 at 03:43
§92 The Ontology of Linguistic Meaning "The essence is hidden from us" :grin:
March 02, 2019 at 23:36
§91 And now comes a critique of the Tractatus... It feels like we need to be exact; and this underpinned the approach of the older text. But keep in m...
March 02, 2019 at 22:57
§90. Grammar. Here he is setting out the core of his new philosophical method, in which philosophical discussion is "taken apart"; Philosophy treats "...
March 02, 2019 at 21:50
It's also the source of a game I sometimes play here, in which a thread is built by players taking it in turns to add a rule. A game I take to have pr...
March 02, 2019 at 21:39