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SO write it up and get your Ph.D. Addition: But this leads me to think you do not know what validity is. There are clear ways in which this propositio...

It would be.

In rejecting Hilbert's hotel, you rejected the mathematics of infinities. Hence, you make errors such as

It seems to me that you just do not have a good grasp of the mathematics of infinity. On that basis alone, I don't see why one ought listen to your ar...

Have you ever chatted with @"Devans99"? He wants to talk about an infinite universe, but rejects Hilbert's Hotel because it could never be real. That ...

You're not exactly a mathematical traditionalist. You might be right; if we throw out transfinite mathematics your arguments might be interesting. But...

What could it mean to go in the wrong direction? "God works in mysterious ways" explains everything, at the expense of explaining nothing.

This looks to be an example of the Naturalistic Fallacy - deriving an ought from an is without due diligence.

At best this could be an argument that infinity is not an integer.

Nuh. Mathematics is essential to our descriptions of the world, That's not the same.

OK. Have fun.

Oh, use Google. It was one hydrogen atom per volume of St Paul's per year, or some such. Not exactly a big bang. Read up on Fred Hoyle.

Well, no. It shows instead that for presentism there is no start to time.

Says who? Devans?

This appears incomplete. if you have a fixed volume of space with infinite matter in it then density is infinite - sure. Hm. Have you ever visited Hil...

You might enjoy reading up on Steady State theory. The calculations you want were done last century.

I've no clear idea how what you are asking relates to what I said.

So your argument becomes: Devans thinks there must be a start time, therefore presentism is wrong.

Really? What is it?

This makes no sense for me. There are no big bangs going on in my lounge-room; I would have noticed. And simple mathematics shows that your last sente...

Is it? Why would you think that? I think it works neatly.

If you assume only now exists, then there is no past, and hence no start to time. The argument falls apart.

IT would be simple to take this argument's logic and show that there are no integers. Assume there is no first integer. Then there cannot be any next ...

But the validity is also questionable. Not in an infinite space. If time has no beginning, why couldn't matter also have no beginning... But now I am ...

I'm not challenging the validity of your argument. I'm challenging the style. It is an example of the sort of argument Wittgenstein described as an en...

Look again.

So says much of what passes for wisdom. And yet you are confident enough of your language skills to think that this is a thread about God, and not abo...

This whole thread appears t derive from a confusion between truth and belief. They are not the same. Something can be true, and believed. Something ca...

It would be an error to think that the universe acts logically. Instead, we choose logical descriptions of the universe. The universe acts as it will;...

No, I'm referring to the general style of arguing from any sort of first principle to a self-serving conclusion. They are examples of confirmation bia...

Meh. Your science here is questionable. Let's leave that as moot.

I agree, more or less, but I would explain this rather than accept it as a sort of miracle. When the universe acts in ways that are a bit odd, what sc...

Sometimes folk are just wrong.

Refreshingly direct. I'm not sure what a "counter logic" is. What I'm referring to is the various sorts of mathematics that are drawn into the mix. No...

What would float my boat would be someone progressing the discussion... Now, if you had said that, I might have cause to stop and think. But instead.....

Ah. It's a game of "last post wins"?

bay? may. This silly twisting of what was said does you proud. SO is your point a profound rejection of existentialist thought that points to how ther...

Them.

That's not a mark. This is a mark: http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Tayla+Harris+Women+AFL+Exhibition+Western+PI9Ks8AXy8nl.jpg Watch 'em fly! Wonder...

you mean like being able to choose medical care when they need it? Can't have that. Medicine is for people with money.

And?

Meh. That does not strike me as of much use in understanding what is going on. Rather it's the manipulation of images of the desirability of specific ...

How so?

Seems to me that there is an assumption here that logic tells the universe what to do. I don't think it works that way. Rather, we choose a logic - a ...

Bayesian, not Boolian.

:rofl: So is five.

This is the male parallel of shaming the female body to sell stuff. Bring in all that feminist critique thereof and apply it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZeWPScnolo

Fuck off, then. If you need this space just to repeat yourselves ad nauseum, then I'll stop attempting to move the thread on to the more interesting p...

@"Metaphysician Undercover" at this stage I'm sick of you holding the thread up. There's a whole book here. Move on.