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Thanks. That'll do.

What I said about the senses is accepted science. What you see, hear, feel and so on is mitigated by the nervous system. That the senses are far form ...

Who, me? As if there were only one such relationship. Or many. Positing a relationship between me and other stuff already posits a separation between ...

Strange loops are inherently unpredictable. So yes, you are right that we cannot understand acts in terms of their consequences. Their consequences wi...

The juxtaposition of free will and determinism is a nonsense. Neither is coherent. What we do have is a complex looping of act and consequence.

And straight away you have replaced truth with belief. Propositions are true, or false, regardless of what you say is true. Justifications are for bel...

Sure. And the oven is also embedded in the language being used. That is, being able to use an oven involves dividing things up in such a way that ther...

Doubtless you are right that I have the wrong impression of your thinking, but nevertheless that is the impression you have left on me. Perhaps our di...

@"Harry Hindu"; @"creativesoul"; @"frank"; @"Terrapin Station" @"unenlightened" One ought take care not to portray the senses as a diode, passing info...

This paragraph seems to be changing the topic to proprioception. So I'll not respond. I'm saying that this is in point of fact wrong. The setting out ...

No, Harry. That's not what was claimed.

Did anyone notice that I did not use the word "meaning" in the title or OP? Language without meaning...

When it does, it is incidental to what is going on.

You didn't respond to my reply. Or I missed it. Not that you are obligated, of course.

SO what has been shown here is that language is far more than a medium for communication. It is philosophical myopia that leads one to think of langua...

You're equating meaning and correspondence? Consider the Slab game. The correspondence of "Slab" to a slab is a small part o f what is going on. Sayin...

Thinking is involved. It's just not the whole of it.

I'm not so much wanting to redefine meaning as drop it altogether. "il pleut" means that it is raining. One way of saying this is that they set out th...

Let's look at use and truth. It's statements that are true or false. Statements are generally about how things are. So a given statement will be true,...

Do you really think the whole thing out before you set it into words? That's not my experience. The setting out happens with the thinking.

So your theory that meaning is thinking leads you to having an issue with truth. Suppose instead that the meaning of a proposition is whatever you are...

You're saying that meaning is thinking, propositions are the meaning of statements, so the meaning of a statement is a thought, not a state of affairs...

Sure. We can work with that.

Tell me about them. I think we can work our way through them.

Quite right. This calls for immediate discussion. Completely new motion, eh, that, ah-- that there be, ah, immediate action-- In the-- in the light of...

I considered and rejected that wording. It wasn't strong enough for what I wanted to express. Moving information may indeed occur, but is incidental t...

Some of your writing is interesting. Then there is stuff such as this. Not all words are nouns. Not all words refer to other things. It appears that y...

You mean we can't do whatever we like in the game? Yep.

I'm coming around to the idea that cognition does not take place only in heads, either.

Depends on the bank, maybe? Doesn't the computer understand - and if not, how does it make those transfers for you? I don't see a problem.

I don't see why that should be. Giving an explanation is one thing we can do with language... Explaining is something we do. Some language games have ...

That's not what is being claimed here.

Not a loose patchwork. A family resemblance? As with Gödel, set up such a unified theory and then the game becomes finding a counter-instance. In the ...

Nuh. Explanation is one use.

Or you, your clarity.

Yep. If only he could see that meaning is not in heads, but out there in the world. Wouldn't not having to find where meaning is located in our neuron...

(A) "Can you tell me the capital of Mongolia?" asked Bob sincerely. "London", answered Sally. :rofl:

Trouble is, it's the fact that the cat is on the mat that makes "the cat is on the mat" true. That is, we state facts and in the process we indulge in...

This is not how I use these two terms. A proposition will be true or false regardless of your or my judgement. Judgement comes in when you decide to b...

It's probably worth pointing out that a language game is not just words. It also involves slabs and apples, and other stuff. This is what is misunders...

OK. So when we talk about the stuff around us, are we talking about the stuff, or the perceptions-of-stuff? Realism is the view that we are talking ab...

Anti-realism is just the wrong term to use. The world is always, already, interpreted. Hence, there is a world. Calling this view anti=realism is obfu...

Information I'm pretty much using the physical definition here - the difference in entropy of two systems, the minimum number of bits needed to encode...

What I'm arguing would be closer to saying that moving information is not moving meaning or knowledge. That much more is involved.

Yep.

I don't see that this helps. It just replaces meaning with correlation.

This is an excellent question. It's about how Davidson and Wittgenstein might mesh. Wittgenstein never says it, but folk tend to be left with the impr...

This is so, because that's all words can do. The depths are at best, show, and more often, beyond expression.

If you take the actions out of the picture, then aren't you left with only syntax?

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