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The Gem, an example: "...you cannot have trees-without-the mind in mind, without having them in mind. Therefore, you cannot have trees-without-the-min...
December 18, 2020 at 09:38
Well, with an argument like that, who could disagree.
December 18, 2020 at 09:29
Well, if it is raining, while you go dancing in the puddles, do you choose to believe that it is raining? should be... When we believe something all w...
December 18, 2020 at 09:28
You get to decide what to believe. Mostly.
December 18, 2020 at 09:13
DO you think we should believe things that are not true?
December 18, 2020 at 09:00
That question is the same as "what should you believe?" Would you expect there to be one answer to that question? As if the reason you believe the cat...
December 18, 2020 at 08:53
We call the things we think are true our beliefs. Beliefs can be true, but they also might be false.
December 18, 2020 at 08:46
Nuh. Truth is not a popularity contest.
December 18, 2020 at 08:27
Sweet. He was a misogynistic reactionary, but entertaining.
December 18, 2020 at 08:00
David Stove a joker? Oh, yes, indeed.
December 18, 2020 at 07:55
And this small glory, with much the same logical structure as was offered by @"Wayfarer":
December 18, 2020 at 07:53
Stove on Kant:
December 18, 2020 at 07:47
And the rest of §306, and on through §308. The error comes from thinking that because we treat mental processes as we do other processes: "We talk of ...
December 18, 2020 at 07:45
That seems an odd interpretation of that quote. But then, folk often miss the next paragraph, the remainder of §304, in which the apparent paradox is ...
December 18, 2020 at 07:24
That was what perturbed me about your approach. You think that those are seperate questions. Qualia exist if they make a difference. They make no diff...
December 18, 2020 at 06:27
No; My complaint is that hence they cannot add anything to the conversation.
December 18, 2020 at 06:14
Is "We" just you and I? Or a simple majority? Or can we use Hare-Clark?
December 18, 2020 at 05:11
SIlly season on the forums.
December 18, 2020 at 00:54
Really? So if we all agree on something, that makes it true? Or real? All we need to do to get the plane to fly is to agree that it will fly? You don'...
December 18, 2020 at 00:54
Since we can't, ex hypothesi, see the world as it is, then at the very least we cannot know that what we do see is not the world as it really is. So t...
December 18, 2020 at 00:18
Some folk just gotta 'f the ineffable.
December 18, 2020 at 00:14
I'm not sure what to do with this. If qualia are ineffable, then we can't talk about them. If not, then they are just everyday tastes and smells and s...
December 18, 2020 at 00:10
...then there are those who insist in talking about how the word is for us, as opposed to how it really is; as if that helped.
December 17, 2020 at 20:14
Well, if you begin with Platonism it's not surprising that you end up with Platonism.
December 17, 2020 at 19:46
That surprises me. It's what I have maintained since the start fo the thread: But more than that, I've argued that they are useless:
December 17, 2020 at 19:41
Where, in the article, does he argue for this? Or is this a Dennett boogeyman? If the argument is "Dennett is a physicalist, so he has to argue agains...
December 17, 2020 at 19:37
What about it? As in, why bring it up?
December 16, 2020 at 23:40
I believe it is raining because it is raining. The thing in the world causes the thought. If I decide to move my arm up, the damn thing goes up. The t...
December 16, 2020 at 23:13
:grin:
December 16, 2020 at 22:58
Roughly, it's the view that there is only physical stuff - the monism bit - but we will never be able to reduce psychological explanations to physical...
December 16, 2020 at 20:36
Me, either. It's a dreadful term, designed to turn people off before they have any idea what it is. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/anomalous-monis...
December 16, 2020 at 20:29
No idea what that means. I would have said that they probably will never succeed because there need be no correlate between all the sorts of things we...
December 16, 2020 at 20:21
I can describe my cat's actions in terms of its beliefs; so that's wrong. Now we will go off on some bullshit about cats not being able to form senten...
December 16, 2020 at 20:18
....but there is an implicit desire to find some "concrete" thing that is the equivalent of a belief; to render belief in physical terms, perhaps, som...
December 16, 2020 at 20:16
...and concrete events can be stated; therefore any belief that ranges over a concrete event also ranges over a statement. T-sentences again, concrete...
December 16, 2020 at 20:12
See above. What does a belief consist in? It consists in treating some statement as true. The paraphernalia of perceptual expectations or correlations...
December 16, 2020 at 19:58
A corollary of taking beliefs as ranging over statements is that it shows how they can be used in intentional explanations of actions. Back to: I beli...
December 16, 2020 at 19:55
Perceptual expectations can be put into sentence form: "He expected to see a nose there". You can even put them into the form of beliefs: he believed ...
December 16, 2020 at 19:47
A sentence is any more or less well formed string of words, so it includes not just statements, but questions and commands and such. Statements are in...
December 16, 2020 at 19:37
Beliefs are used as part of intentional accounts of acts. An action can be explained, accounted for, as the result of a belief and a desire. I believe...
December 16, 2020 at 19:17
Yea, it's like them, too.
December 16, 2020 at 18:58
It's like being able to feel stuff at a distance.
December 16, 2020 at 09:37
Short answer, Yes. There is a way of talking about qualia that is not ineffable, but it appears to be no different to our talk of tastes, sights, fell...
December 16, 2020 at 07:30
Yep.
December 16, 2020 at 06:54
I don't understand this insistence - from you and from others. What similar experience could you have to my looking at a tree? You could start by look...
December 16, 2020 at 04:55
what convinces you that “Socrates” is a noun? Same.
December 15, 2020 at 23:03
But you said you had not had similar experiences... So that's not right.
December 15, 2020 at 22:19
...as are all observations. I'm parroting Davidson, or at least my version of Davidson. SO I don't think I'm alone. Why do you have misgivings? (Edit:...
December 15, 2020 at 22:15
The argument is simply an observation. It's a commonplace, and that you can't see it is what is extraordinary here. I rather think you nailed your fla...
December 15, 2020 at 22:01
Well, no, I think that very badly expressed.
December 15, 2020 at 21:56