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Metaphysical ideas connected with psychology indirectly, That is, physicalism is a metaphysical notion, by Watkin's standards.

Conservation doctrines Conservation of momentum, energy, information - all reduce to the form "For every local increase or decrease in x there exists ...

III Examples Determinism: Every event has a cause. This has the form given for Level 4 statements, an existential statement nestled in a universal. He...

II Logical Structure The difference between Level 1 and Level 3 is in the degree of verifiability. The car is in my garage today - take a look; but th...

The problem is not the conspiracy so much as conspiracy theorist.

Then the problem is not the conspiracy so much as the amateur, sloppy, often politically motivated, usually batshit crazy interpretations.

Well, no. There is no link between the bones and the future. But a conspiracy does link to the future in a causal fashion. There is one aspect of some...

Hmmm. There's nothing about conspiracy theories that renders them automatically wrong.

You could learn what Feynman meant, as you could find a translator for Swahili or Finnish.

And yet colourless green ideas sleep furiously.

Ah. You think "change is successions in time" is an example of a true statements having nothing whatsoever to do with the world! But the floor changes...

enunciating things that are irrational, nonsensical, absurd, or meaningless is not saying anything, It's just making noise.

I'd like to see this filled out: an example, perhaps.

Yep.

This should have been an end to the thread.

It seems this is to be a discussion of logic rather than of the nature of belief. I mentioned our cat, Lilly, in my previous post. It seems natural th...

Then does "the world as it is in itself" make any sense? We can make true statements about the world. But add "as it is in itself" and that capacity i...

-ah, misdirection. It seems odd that we agree that there are things about which nothing can be said, yet seem to disagree as to what these things are....

it's not that we shouldn't talk about the big stuff so much as that we can't. Instead, we enact the big stuff in what we do.

I quite agree. But let's not pretend we have the answer where there can be none.

I had hoped it was clear that this: "there is precious little that we can say that is true", was given as a view with which I disagree. Hence, Olivier...

We might profit form the approach taken in the SEP article on the problem of perception, which sets up the issue by contrasting naive realism with int...

Analytic philosophers do address that question. And in my view, with great clarity. Perhaps the difference is that they do not pretend to have the ans...

Can we see the world as it is? What are you asking? If you mean "Are there things we cannot see with our own eyes" then yes, we know that here are bec...

Thank you, @"fdrake", for your efforts in setting up what I understand is the first formal debate on the new forums. Thanks, too, to @"jamalrob" and t...

There are things we don't know that we don't know, therefore we don't know anything.

I'm saying I misread your ironic intent.

But we know they are inaccessible...? Think on that.

That is just your inability to commit. Which disappears when you stand up from your armchair.

The trouble is you left out Austin and Wittgenstein who put this silliness to bed.

Irony never works out well on a forum.

Fair call. Still rubbish. I can see form here that the cup is still on the... damn, I put it in the sink. This perspective will do. From some other pe...

@"Janus" and @"Marchesk" are playing at philosophy. It's a word game that they drop as soon a they stand up from their armchair and start doing the th...

Rubbish. One does not have to "see the world from all perspectives" to see that the cup is on the table.

So we have @"Wayfarer" acknowledging that we can have true statements about the world, while @"Marchesk" doesn't have the courage to do the same, choo...

...and? You acknowledge that there are true statements about the world but insist that we cannot see the world as it is. How is this not a contradicti...

For you, yep. We cannot see the word as it is, so the claim goes. So, is water constituted by hydrogen and oxygen? Is California on the edge of the Pa...

Indeed.

Yep.

So, can we make statement about the world that are true, and know that they are true?

A passive-aggressive response. Don't explain yourself.

Illuminating, that you bolded as it is. So, do we see the world as it isn't?

Stove's Gem. We can only see the world with our eyes, therefore we cannot see the world.

"Dimension" is an unfortunate word here. I nearly didn't read your post because I thought it would be yet another divergence into quantum shite. But I...

I don't see this going anywhere.

A true belief. No; you cannot expect the word to be used in the same way in both contexts. Hence, your OP question is senseless.

Relevance? Can't poor old @"Xtrix" have true opinions? No; I'm saying that the way you are using "truth" has no application outside of religious talk....

So is "the knife is sharp". You left out: You are attempting to ask how a weird use of "truth" in a particular context works in a different context - ...

...and there it is; opinion instead of truth. So is the OP just asking for atheists opinions?