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Excellent book. The beginnings of clear thinking about mind. The Official Doctrine might well be sitting behind 's OP. https://antilogicalism.com/wp-c...

:wink: But I will also add Aporia? Or progress?

A rhetorical question? or is it for @"Tate"?

Oh, . The very sentence you quoted against me agrees with me. If language is for communication... English is your second language? I usually do not re...

, think what you like. By using "nonsense" you run the danger of missing the point, misread the SEP article, thus forming an erroneous picture of the ...

No, it does not. At most it says logic is senseless. Logic shows the structure of propositions, some of which picture the world.

It doesn't say anything like that. The best you might get is that logic is senseless; that it has no meaning but sets out a grammatical structure.

Nothing there says that logic is nonsense. Where does this occur?

Where?

Really? Where?

Yep.

It isn't. Logic sets it out clearly. People are confused. Especially those who try to do philosophy without an understanding of logic.

It's good to see you working on this, but have a close look at your argument. First you assert that Frege treats relations and universals as objects, ...

No. You again showed that you are a fool. Stay safe. .

Just noticed this, Rocco. Someone who does not do philosophy... sure, there are plenty of them. My suspicion is that they live parasitically off the p...

These first two sentences of the article sent me off looking for statistics... https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228374607/figure/tbl1/AS:66908...

, Previously I pointed out that this argument cannot be parsed in first order logic. In proposing that C relates A to B, Bradley and RussellA are trea...

I don't share your obsession with quote marks. But for what it's worth, in what I have written, "aRb" does not picture a fact. That aRb does that. Tha...

This is why you have so much difficulty, Harry. A proposition is distinct from a propositional sign in that a proposition projects out into the world ...

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, perhaps if you gave your own reply to , your point might become apparent.

What is painful is the lack of clarity as to the topic of this conversation. It's not the distinction between use and mention that is obscure, so much...

You asked To which I replied. As far as I can see, 3.14 and what follows concerns the structure of propositions rather than how they might picture the...

You asked how a relation pictures the world, then presented quotes in support of: That does not appear to be about what you asked. Since 3.144 is supp...

So you want to put into words how a relation pictures the world. But whereof one cannot speak... It's not something to be addressed semantically. It's...

How to parse it? How do we put it into words?

No. Facts and states of affairs are much the same. Relations, not so much. Nor are "proposition" and "relation" interchangeable. Further, propositiona...

...and other argument are ever putative, never presented.

Sure, the relation shows the state of affairs, and in that way steps beyond what is said. The remark being replied to is: The purpose here is to move ...

Well I disagree. Yep. The picture shows these relations. that's the point. Look at the context, at the mis-view @"RussellA" expresses.

https://images.theconversation.com/files/129124/original/image-20160704-18321-q3hbkp.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=926&fit=clip Why dick doodl...

So you claim; but where is the proof? Set out that transcendental argument for us again, so we can se how it (doesn't) work.

I'll join Anscombe in suggesting that thinking in terms of idealism and empiricism is an impediment to understanding the Tractatus. But, as I explaine...

For the purposes of the Tractatus, the states of affairs, the facts, constituted the world, while relations form a picture of the world. That this or ...

Russell's theory of descriptions uses Frege's first order logic.

Yep. The common kind claim, that hallucination or dreams are of the same kind as our seeing a tree or a cup, seems to involve a mild form of solipsism...

Do you have some argument? Then present it. I'm not doing your work for you. My suspicion is that when you try to put your argument sequentially, you ...

So we have no way of telling if someone is on Ketamine?

And...? Hence, Phenomenalism?

It has to be spelled out? We recognise illusion and hallucination in virtue of being a member of a community.

, The simplest, most coherent interpretation of the Trinity is as the triumph of political accomodation over logic.

But we are able to recognise hallucinations. Hence the kind of thing that we hear in the case of a veridical perception is not the same kind of thing ...

Kant has a lot to answer for. The hypothesis is that what we see might be totally different to a conjectured, inaccessible world about which we can sa...

:up: mistakes a copy-and-paste for an argument.

It's regrettable that folk used the word "observation" when they meant "measurement". Sure, there is discussion, mostly outside of physics, on youtube...

Cheers. I'm really not too fussed. There are precious few physicist who do not think that the world is real.

One last post: Home Affairs report confirms Scott Morrison pressured department to reveal election day boat interception Nasty, little man.

A fortnight later - my apologies, I have intended to get back to this post, but I kept rethinking my response. Even now I'm still puzzling. It's easy ...

Well, herein lies the problem. We now have "local realism", "realism" per se, and "scientific realism"... So which is it? And what is it that is chall...