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Doubtless all true, and should be accounted for. In my defence this thread is not intended to be so formal but to get on with outlining what is going ...

The right hand side is in the metalanguage, and is about the domain of the metalanguage, which is all that the metalanguage can talk about. So it is t...

That post is clear as mud. I'm nonplussed. You don't seem to me to be saying anything useable.

That last post was not very satisfactory. Trouble is, I'm not at all sure which of the many correspondence theories you are espousing. So perhaps it w...

Not conflating so much as recognising. It seems we have differing views of what is involved in each. How does this differ from the deflationary theory...

Would there were a good clear potted history of the use of T-sentences. So we have Tarski explicating the requirements of any semantic theory of truth...

There are other views, besides deflation, that reject correspondence. The rejection of correspondence does not imply the acceptance of truth as will t...

What?

Cheers. I thought you were done here. Any further thoughts on knowledge?

I agree, so long as you do not conclude that there are no true statements.

Doesn't it seem odd to you that the trilemma lists three ways to prove something then concludes that proof is impossible? All three work.

You want to name non-linguistic things, as if that very act were not linguistic. Looks like much the same error as @"Tate". You want the kettle's boil...

There is no outside, nor inside. That terminology is fraught.

Indeed, you need it to be raining. Which is already to interpret the world, to use language. That is, for "it is raining" to be true, it needs to be r...

Here we go again. Perhaps, if I am wrong, you might explain what it is you do want. Rather than asking me to guess.

I don't know why you want that. I'm not your shrink.

Perhaps if you read more widely... The point at hand is the kettle boiling. That's a fact. But you want there to be another thing, that shall not be n...

Yep. Hence the "as if". Yep. It's a form of life, if you will. Language is embedded in breakfast and waking and... You might not narrate your life, bu...

Ok. (P ? "P"is true) is true is a pretty standard presentation, just writ in an unexpected direction. Substitute any sentence you like for P. It's an ...

Yep. It's as if @"Michael" would have us say, that the kettle is boiling is not a fact, but corresponds to a fact that is outside of language; and whe...

While I was doing some stretches outside there was a female fairy wren in the hanging baskets, Skittling quickly in search of breakfast. It has a fami...

Oh, Srap. The order makes no difference in an equivalence. P?Q is the same as Q?P I wondered if someone would jump at that. I'm surprised it was you. ...

I don't disagree with any of this. I might add the obvious point that 'the Earth moves" is both a belief about the Earth and a methodological maxim. I...

That is not what deflation is claiming. It is pointing out that (P ? "P" is true). It then adds that one way or another, t at is all there is to the t...

Yes! And moreover, we tend to consider far too few examples of T-sentences and correspondence to get a good grasp or their variety. it's probably bett...

Thanks, Luke. I've pulled these quotes in order to try to get a handle on something that bothers me about how deflation should be understood. It's as ...

Indeed; but this is a philosophy forum. If Jesus is a great moral teacher, then we ought be able to cite his great moral teachings. But that is not wh...

:roll: Sure. Bye.

Not sure of the relevance to the topic, either.

https://hub.jhu.edu/2021/08/17/blind-people-understand-color/ https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/02/making-sense-of-how-the-blind-see-color/

So have you spoken to any blind folk about this?

What?

I don't disagree with any of that. Others have said otherwise. It was, after all, a ways back.

:wink:

:rofl:

That's a pity. Seems to me the worth of a moral teaching is found in the doing.

...making America grate, again.

No. I usually get a phone call rather than a text.

Yep.

Down under, those against a republic (yes, we now have a king...) have been saying that we ought wait until the Queen dies before giving republicanism...

Rules are not laws? Odd. But love might be worth of consideration. I think I prefer charity as it is more obviously a virtue, and assessable in public...

You seem to think that I've claimed we do not have reasons. I haven't, but it's this sort of irrational jump that renders your posts unworthy of respo...

Kuhn's paradigms are certainly theoretical models, if theory is taken to be the propositions held to be true by the paradigm. As if the Copernican par...

What pisses me off about threads such as this is that, from a philosophical vantage, if Jesus is a great moral teacher, then we ought be able to cite ...

Yep.

Confirmation bias is a powerful force.

I regret giving any attention at all to the nonsense of this thread.

Broad agreement, then.

You are the only on referring to them as a fiction. Post hoc, yes. Fiction, no so much. And you continue to ignore the point that reasons are attribut...

You missed the pertinent bit: "... to cats and horses and hedges as well as to philosophers". But then you have to, in order that the titular issue no...